JoJo's Bizarre Adventure (2012) Episode 10 Discussion

RealCW said:
Can you rabid JoJo fans please tell me what makes this series so good?

I have struggled to get up to episode 10 and I'm done with this show. I was done at episode 4 originally, but so many people told me to keep going.

And yes, I've done my research on this show; it does have a fascinating core concept with the titular "JoJos" and I know about the favorite third arc, etc... but my god, this has been, hands down, the worst written anime I think I have ever seen in my life.

The characters are so flat and calling them one-dimensional is an undeserved compliment, and SO STUPID. Dio is dumber than a James Bond villain at times, even though he's set up to be some grand master who's supposed to be intimidating.

Episode 6, when he resurrected those Knight guys, even though he had literally nothing else to do and watched the fight too long, he just decided to up and leave when JoJo was thrust underwater, assuming like a Bond villain, "Okay, he's dead. I don't have to actually SEE IT."

Or episode 9, literally he monologued for 10 minutes straight instead of doing anything to Erina or anything. If he didn't just talk, none of that would have even happened.

And don't get me started on the bullshit powers and how all logic is thrown out the window just to manufacture 'drama'.

Dio's ability to freeze, I thought was to freeze your limbs to not allow bloodflow (ie, Hamon or Ripple, whatever the hell it's called). That's stupid, but it at least makes sense. However, JoJo beats him in episode 8 with a frozen limb, saying IT'S HOT ENOUGH, IT'LL MELT.
By the show's own logic, he shouldn't have any Hamon in it at all. Deus ex machina at its worst.

Dio's not the only blatantly stupid antagonist, either. The big Knight guy; he literally didn't attack Zeppeli or Speedwagon and just let his partner give that whole death speech, so you're thinking "Oh, he must respect him, or also be changing", but NO. Then he literally just kills his buddy and proclaims how evil he is.
WHY THE HELL DID HE WAIT, THEN??? WHY DIDN'T HE KILL JOJO'S FRIENDS?

I wanted to die watching these. They were SO stupid and so poorly written, it tops everything else. This is the by far the lowest ranked 1/10 series on my entire anime list. Bar none.
But I vowed to keep watching until the next JoJo. Joseph is a better character, but he's still not a GOOD one. He still has almost no personality and is a blatant clone in design and even lack of personality as Jonathan. "He's not a gentlemen". That's the only difference. Riveting storytelling, truly.

And this show is so wildly popular... because? And if it's just because of the later parts, so you guys admit that the first part of this super long story (100+ volumes!) is terrible because it gets good...EVENTUALLY?

Seriously?

And before you freak out; I did watch the first episode of Stardust, the season everyone loves, and honestly, while it had some stupid pandering moments (again, Kujo is ALSO nicknamed JoJo, because we gotta spell it out), it wasn't that bad.
I actually kind of enjoyed it, but I also enjoyed episodes 1 and 2 of this JoJo series. The ONLY parts of it I enjoyed, mind you, so it could be just another fluke.

Whatever the case is, even if it gets beyond amazing, a story shouldn't be godawful for the first quarter. And 100+ volumes, that is a long time to sift through shit.

1/10, I'd give it a 0 out of 10 if I could, so please, tell me why this show is any good at all.
It is by far the worst show I think I have ever watched in my life, and I cannot grasp the following behind it, unless all the fans are 10 year olds who just want to see gigantic oily men beating each other up.

So then it's a Transformers movie, by that logic, right?

RealCW said:
Can you rabid JoJo fans please tell me what makes this series so good?

I have struggled to get up to episode 10 and I'm done with this show. I was done at episode 4 originally, but so many people told me to keep going.

And yes, I've done my research on this show; it does have a fascinating core concept with the titular "JoJos" and I know about the favorite third arc, etc... but my god, this has been, hands down, the worst written anime I think I have ever seen in my life.

The characters are so flat and calling them one-dimensional is an undeserved compliment, and SO STUPID. Dio is dumber than a James Bond villain at times, even though he's set up to be some grand master who's supposed to be intimidating.

Episode 6, when he resurrected those Knight guys, even though he had literally nothing else to do and watched the fight too long, he just decided to up and leave when JoJo was thrust underwater, assuming like a Bond villain, "Okay, he's dead. I don't have to actually SEE IT."

Or episode 9, literally he monologued for 10 minutes straight instead of doing anything to Erina or anything. If he didn't just talk, none of that would have even happened.

And don't get me started on the bullshit powers and how all logic is thrown out the window just to manufacture 'drama'.

Dio's ability to freeze, I thought was to freeze your limbs to not allow bloodflow (ie, Hamon or Ripple, whatever the hell it's called). That's stupid, but it at least makes sense. However, JoJo beats him in episode 8 with a frozen limb, saying IT'S HOT ENOUGH, IT'LL MELT.
By the show's own logic, he shouldn't have any Hamon in it at all. Deus ex machina at its worst.

Dio's not the only blatantly stupid antagonist, either. The big Knight guy; he literally didn't attack Zeppeli or Speedwagon and just let his partner give that whole death speech, so you're thinking "Oh, he must respect him, or also be changing", but NO. Then he literally just kills his buddy and proclaims how evil he is.
WHY THE HELL DID HE WAIT, THEN??? WHY DIDN'T HE KILL JOJO'S FRIENDS?

I wanted to die watching these. They were SO stupid and so poorly written, it tops everything else. This is the by far the lowest ranked 1/10 series on my entire anime list. Bar none.
But I vowed to keep watching until the next JoJo. Joseph is a better character, but he's still not a GOOD one. He still has almost no personality and is a blatant clone in design and even lack of personality as Jonathan. "He's not a gentlemen". That's the only difference. Riveting storytelling, truly.

And this show is so wildly popular... because? And if it's just because of the later parts, so you guys admit that the first part of this super long story (100+ volumes!) is terrible because it gets good...EVENTUALLY?

Seriously?

And before you freak out; I did watch the first episode of Stardust, the season everyone loves, and honestly, while it had some stupid pandering moments (again, Kujo is ALSO nicknamed JoJo, because we gotta spell it out), it wasn't that bad.
I actually kind of enjoyed it, but I also enjoyed episodes 1 and 2 of this JoJo series. The ONLY parts of it I enjoyed, mind you, so it could be just another fluke.

Whatever the case is, even if it gets beyond amazing, a story shouldn't be godawful for the first quarter. And 100+ volumes, that is a long time to sift through shit.

1/10, I'd give it a 0 out of 10 if I could, so please, tell me why this show is any good at all.
It is by far the worst show I think I have ever watched in my life, and I cannot grasp the following behind it, unless all the fans are 10 year olds who just want to see gigantic oily men beating each other up.

So then it's a Transformers movie, by that logic, right?