Sword Art Online Episode 20 Discussion

unj008 said:
8 people who voted 1 out of 5 must be trolls? I mean SAO is criticized because of it's poor interpretation, but I find that hard to believe. It's hard to win book vs movie argument, but seriously. this anime was aired with general public as the audience. All the FIAWOL otakus must learn how to get over it. It is just a god damn anime.

AmberFebruary said:
director: ok guys! we are going to adapt this SAO LN. lots of fans. we could get a lot of money in it. well anyway, let's focus on the story. ^^,
staffs: wait boss! this is supposed to be an online game? how bout the mechanics?
director: wait, what? (oh shit) well add boobs and ass shots
staffs: the mechanics boss? its such a waste. it is so detailed in the LN
director: we're going to tell a STORY full of boobs and ass shots.

Paul said:


I support this.

EstelleBright said:


ASSuna also supports.

AiCon said:
Sugou supports this as well.

KaiKatsuya said:


and here I'm sense another chain quote that if continues, will be deleted by the mods.

Paul said:


They can delete our post but our support stays forever strong!

On a serious note, I think they stopped caring since a couple episodes ago.

Takuan_Soho said:
This episodes encapsulates everything I have disliked about this animation adaptation.

First, the animation has taken away all the humor from the light novels (the Salamander response to Kirito's victory, Kagemune's role).

Second, once again its gets the emotions wrong (Lyfa's all too casual landing and talking to Fairy Leader, Kirito's response to Eugene (he doesn't get mad, he maintains dry wit through the battle), the Cat Sith and Fairy leaders reaction to the battle, they are extremely cool customers, not cheerleaders).

Third, the drawings are flat (this should have been a splurge episode, but a lot of the scenes looked extremely two dimensional).
Third, part two, the face's lack of emotions is really evident this episode. It is like they only have 2 or 3 stock expressions: Neutral, mad, and other.

Fourth, the writing sucks, the dialog is taken directly from the novel without even attempting to translate the descriptions which would make it easier for people who haven't read the LN (the whole Undine-Spriggan alliance bit - if one hadn't read the LN, would anyone understand why everyone reacted as they did?)

I understand about budgets and whatnot, but one can tell when the animating team cares and when they really don't, and it is all too obvious that the SAO adapters don't care about the animation, they just showed up to work. This is what is ultimately so disappointing about this animation.

lindsayzzz said:
Haru's pig avatar in the end illustration card?!! Too awesome. We definitely need an AW x SAO crossover OVA or something.

unj008 said:
The fact that more and more newer animes are made half heartedly must be tough news for all the die hard anime fans.... I'm just stating the facts not my biased opinion.. Most importantly, do you think staffs get paid a lot? With people pirating, the company looses money. With less money, they don't want to work as hard. What I'm trying to say is since a lot of people don't support the staffs who made the anime, why should they work any harder? Adding boobs and asses attract audience, with more people, there is a higher possibility of getting more $$$. Seems logical to me

Paul said:


I think it'd be unnecessary to bring up this discussion about supporting companies as it always ends up negative and off topic but let me say that even if SAO didn't have any ass and tits, it'd still get tons of views because of its original life and death MMORPG theme. Heck, I'm sure plenty of people who watched this weren't even expecting as much service that was shown.

eien_kiseki said:

This was my most anticipated episode but it was simply terribly done, I feel very mad/disappointed now. All the great parts of the LN were poorly done, and the parts that made SAO seem more like its taking place in a game is all gone. For example, after Sakuya banish Siguard from sylph territory in the anime his reaction was just 'anger, and saying curse you!! Grrr'. In the novel his reaction was disbelief and saying he will complain to a GM about her abusing her rights as sylph leader (which makes more sense from a gamer's point of view).

Also I hate the anime's interpretation of Leafa and Suguha... Seriously =_= They are changing SAO's theme far different from the impression the LN give. Why the skirt flip scene when Kirito take her sword, that part was just ridiculous and pointless. The image they show of Leafa is almost like a brainless bimbo who is all looks and no show, but in the LN it clearly stats Leafa as a very strong charac, she is the winner of the sylph sword competition. It makes no sense why they would only portray Leafa as another girl for Kirito's harem.

Also the really awesome sword fight i was expecting so highly of turned out to be a complete flop in the anime. The animation of the fight was horrible, I dare anyone to say it was a good fight. The LN had much more intense description of Kirito's fight against General Eugene, and by the end of it its impossible for anyone to say that either one completely dominated the other. Of course Kirito has duel wielding but the General Eugene is ALSO a very good swordman he doesn't get slashed up by Kirito in 10sec flat and unable to even return some hits. *sigh* I am done with the anime, the quality has being going steadily downhill since SAO arc ended, and and the anime simply isn't portraying the LN accurately since then.

AmberFebruary said:
director: ok guys! we are going to adapt this SAO LN. lots of fans. we could get a lot of money in it. well anyway, let's focus on the story. ^^,
staffs: wait boss! this is supposed to be an online game? how bout the mechanics?
director: wait, what? (oh shit) well add boobs and ass shots
staffs: the mechanics boss? its such a waste. it is so detailed in the LN
director: we're going to tell a STORY full of boobs and ass shots.

eien_kiseki said:
the quality has being going steadily downhill since SAO arc ended

AiCon said:

Personally, I started watching this because the premise sounded good and I thought that there would be lots of action. I think that this could have been almost as good as Code Geass if they didn't rush things with seemingly out of place side stories that took up most of the first half of the SAO arc. If this show was developed better then I think that it wouldn't need much fanservice at all.

Takuan_Soho said:


You know, it really isn't the fanservice I mind. Don't need it, but don't mind it. However with SAO it's the sheer desperation in deploying it that is annoying. It is almost as if they were told to have 3 minutes per episode and they had to jam it in no matter what. Strike Witches, hell, even Freezing and Ikkitousen, didn't have this level of desperation in providing fanservice. More graphic yes, but with SAO it just seems so pathetic.

ssjokg said:
Why didnt they include this?
Talking about Yui...
Not that it would make the anime better but it was quite funny in the LN.

Tyrel said:
Was an okay episode with the fight. Animation went all "Wtf?" during smokescreen with leafa.

Paul said:


Ohhhhh yeaaaaa!!!!

BloodRequiem said:


DAT ASS.

AiCon said:
Work that ass baby - Yeah!

ataraxial said:
Cute Cait Sith is cute.

I feel like this sort of episode is about as good as SAO is ever going to be...
At this point, the best one can do is hope for the fanservice to be focused on the better girls.

AiCon said:
I think that Kirito will only fight Sugou in the last episode and that fight will only last about 10 mins. The last 5 episodes will be nothing but fanservice.

ataraxial said:

If it's Suguha fanservice, I'm pretty sure that would make it better than all of the episodes so far.

It's not like the story is worth anything to begin with, at least for this arc. As if anyone has any doubt that Kirito will beat the crap out of Sugou and save Asuna and make Suguha all depressed with incest-withdrawal issues.

And the fight scenes don't get any more interesting or innovative than "oh my gosh he can use TWO swords instead of just one!" The cave fight is a minor exception, but it still managed to be underwhelming.

So what are we left with?
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=514769

Paul said:


Maybe Kirito will use 3 swords? Lmao.

BloodRequiem said:


1 in each hand and 1 in the mouth?

BloodRequiem said:


1 in each hand and 1 in the mouth?

Paul said:
Maybe Kirito will use 3 swords? Lmao.

Shinryuken said:
well animated boobs bouncing

Paul said:


You should check out the Suguhu thread, it's glorious.

Paul said:


You should check out the Suguhu thread, it's glorious.

Diablakos said:

encouraging incest since 2008

Diablakos said:
sougou is the daughter of his mom's sister,isnt that 1st degree relative?

AirStyles said:
Well.

I liked how Kirito pretend to be the ambassador for Undine/Spriggan alliance... Nice bluff.
It's also good to see dual-wield again.

Kagemune helped them... Why?
30% of Cait Sith + Sylph treasury and tax collecting for a week is not attractive enough for him? Or did he come out of the closet for the awesome Spriggan?

Paul said:


Kirito x Sogou, not Kirito x Suguha, Lol.

And in Japan, marriage between cousins is legal, though from what I remember, it's not very common.

ssjokg said:

You must thank the cuts on ep16 for that.Players respecting each other etc.Shounen stuff.They could just cut Kagemune here and make Eugene just go away but as we said before the director cares a lot about the details....


As for this fight being the highlight of ALO...There is ONE fight that is better but seeing that they fucked up here with their priorities....I guess the fight will be like a touhou game just like it is in the Opening.

Any hope in this adaptation is lost....

ssjokg said:

You must thank the cuts on ep16 for that.Players respecting each other etc.Shounen stuff.They could just cut Kagemune here and make Eugene just go away but as we said before the director cares a lot about the details....


As for this fight being the highlight of ALO...There is ONE fight that is better but seeing that they fucked up here with their priorities....I guess the fight will be like a touhou game just like it is in the Opening.

Any hope in this adaptation is lost....

AiCon said:
Work that ass baby - Yeah!