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| - an obnoxiously suspicious manager feigns ignorance of crimes going on under his control -if you simply yell at someone who you suspect to be a murderer, they'll instantly try to kill you if they actually are, proving your suspicion -the newbie is a "fool" who just doesn't get it -two pivotal decision makers have a bad history that no one is allowed to speak of, straight out of Mean Girls -more "imma huntin' dawg huntin' ma prey" On top of all that, this laughable revelation: "Guys, listen. I could be wrong, but maybe the Psycho-Pass system isn't perfect!?" youdon'tsay.jpg This show is a lost cause. Hydnlife said: That was some fuck up stuff right there............. Eating half a bag of chips and then throwing the rest out is more fucked up than anything this episode had to offer. |
JoshOct 25, 2012 8:36 PM
LoneWolf said: @Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian. |
| shinya fan service :D great episode! now i know why shinya is a latent criminal, with that smirk and the eyes! i wonder why Gino is not a latent criminal himself, i mean he had this past with the old dude... so it all boils down to how you can control yourslef to make your psycho pass within the safe range |
"Either Die as a Hero... or live long enough to see yourself becoming the villain..." |
| I find Akane to be the best character in the show so far. She's the heart of the show who continues to impress me. Everyone else are just bad asses (which is a good thing) whose characters haven't developed yet. That said, Shinya is a badass and that other inspector is a d*ck. Best episode yet. donotthrowsouls said: I lol'ed too when I saw that smirk and i knew that Shinya was going to do something but I still laughed at Akane's shock when she saw what she didn't expect.I just like Akane more and more. Her smirk was my favorite part of the episode. And her face in this scene cracked me up:  "GODDAMMIT KOGAMI, YOU SAID YOU WERE ONLY GOING TO TALK" |
| Kougami Shinya is MF'n sexay-beast! This show is so badass, and I am hooked. |
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| Dunno if it's just HanaKana, but Akane is looking more attractive. She keeps the series interesting in this sausage-fested Guilty Crowny sci-fi. Looking forward to more, the bait tactic they used was mildly interesting. |
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| "only fools learn from experience while the wise learn from history" hoho nice dialogue there and the action was cool the dominator can vary in fire-power, now Akane learns that Shinya and the rest of the Enforcers are really psycho-paths |
j0x said: "only fools learn from experience while the wise learn from history" hoho nice dialogue there and the action was cool the dominator can vary in fire-power, now Akane learns that Shinya and the rest of the Enforcers are really psycho-paths I noticed that one too. I like sentence like these; love em, makes me think I guess. |
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| Is it okay if I said the best character of this show is Dominator? Complete annihilation! 5/5. |
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| That ED theme is so awesome. I liked the setting for this episode. Forced the characters to do more detective work. |
| I really liked the background music in the action scenes. Looking forward to more episodes! |
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sagdashin said: j0x said: "only fools learn from experience while the wise learn from history" hoho nice dialogue there and the action was cool the dominator can vary in fire-power, now Akane learns that Shinya and the rest of the Enforcers are really psycho-paths I noticed that one too. I like sentence like these; love em, makes me think I guess. time to make pics or it did not happen  |
| Lol I was half expecting someone to bite it this episode (Gen and episode 3s, you know) my favorite kind of crime show, where they go all John Shaft on dem suckas...lol after dragging him out of the toilet stall, I half expected Shinya to start pistol whipping him ala Samuel L Jackson that would make the show =P |
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j0x said: sagdashin said: j0x said: "only fools learn from experience while the wise learn from history" hoho nice dialogue there and the action was cool the dominator can vary in fire-power, now Akane learns that Shinya and the rest of the Enforcers are really psycho-paths I noticed that one too. I like sentence like these; love em, makes me think I guess. time to make pics or it did not happen Now that you brought it up, it does sort of confuses me. If the wise really learn from history, you'd think that Ginoza would already know that his way sucks/is criminally inefficient and that Masaoka being a veteran enforcers has a nose for these kinds of things. So far, there's been no indication of an Inspector's jurisdiction, so why not just drag the suspect out of the facility to test his psycho-pass, which was what basically happened this episode. Why even yell and scream and call Akane a fool about it? |
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| Kougami's really an enigma. Wonder what Urobutcher's gonna do with his character... probably killed off by Akane in the end. |
itsvero said: Kougami's really an enigma. Wonder what Urobutcher's gonna do with his character... probably killed off by Akane in the end. yeah, that would be an interesting plot twist in the end... but im thinking Ginoza might be the bad guy in the end cause of his fanatism with Sybil, its like the guy thinks its the way of life or something |
| "Either Die as a Hero... or live long enough to see yourself becoming the villain..." |
| Dialogue is interesting in this episode. Some characterization is portrayed by the characters' facial expressions. Looks like they are trying to make the characters as deep as possible. Nice shot at the end by Kougami. The third mode is definitely destruction. It doesn't even shoot through it; it only destroys the target and nothing else. Great sound effects for the Dominator as well. |
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| Best Episode So Far; Loved Every Bit Of It. That Smirk Of Akane's - Too Good Dominator's Third Mode - Kick Ass This Episode Left Me Craving For More Too Bad The Next Episode Will Be Airing a Bit Late. |
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| Such a good episode! I really love the BGMs. and the ending song is so lovely. |
| Though slightly worse than the previous two, this was a really good episode, as it transitions past the exposition-laden introduction of this dystopian setting into a gradual exploration of the established practices of everyday life. The pacing worked extremely well throughout, as it introduced fragments of small characterization, while also concluding the episode with a superb action sequence. The case was somewhat interesting, but, for the most part, it lacked the tense emotion that was evident in earlier episodes. I actually found the criminal, prior to his mental breakdown, rather sympathetic, due to the abuse he had continually suffered through. Despite the facility only containing technology that determines the hue of each worker, the significant flaws present within the Sibyl system were noticeable yet again, since, even after killing another, one's crime coefficients can lower. The climactic action sequence was my favorite scene, as it excellently portrayed Shinya's animalistic tendencies. The dominators become increasingly formidable every time they're used and another aspect of their complex construction is revealed. I greatly enjoyed and largely prefer the heightened focus on Shinya and his perspective, since he's definitely the best character, while the others, though good as well, seem, at the moment, much less defined, save for Akane. The last line of the episode provided an exceptional sort of cliffhanger, as it strongly alludes to Shinya's innate desire for violence. His pursuance for Shogo, as foreshadowed once again in the opening scene, is considerably intriguing, and I can't wait to see this particular thread unravel. I'm also highly interested in the conflict between Ginoza and Masaoka, as it appears that Ginoza, unlike Masaoka, possesses a particular affinity towards the Sibyl system, likely borne from an experience in his past. The production values are terrific, especially the animation, which was illuminated most effectively during the thrilling action sequence. It's also really good at capturing brilliantly dynamic facial expressions. One of the strongest elements of the show is the highly atmospheric music, as it accompanies specific moments, such as the final chase, remarkably well. The direction was excellent throughout, particularly during Shinya's workout. However, the art, though usually fantastic, was rather unremarkable here due to the isolated environments. Although a bit more prevalent than in the preceding episodes, the CGI, thankfully, wasn't too distracting. All in all, despite an episode that was slightly less engaging, Psycho-Pass remains thoroughly impressive, particularly excelling with it's consistently strong execution and the plethora of interesting characters. I'm really looking forward to the continued development and broadened examination of what's likely to be a thoroughly compelling narrative. |
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| I really love this series. Each episode it gets better and better. 5/5 |
| That was awesome. Especially the scene near the end where Kougami destroyed everything. I'm in love with the Dominator, plus the opening and ending are starting to grow onto me. That cheeky grin Akane made towards the manager made me laugh; she is so adorable. |
| Akane is so moe they lied about this show not having any. |
"What has two arms, two legs, and is alive? Not your favorite character lol! xD" |
skudoops said: (response) You just reasoned how(not why) they employ such banal writing, which isn't the point. The point is the why; because the result is not intriguing, enlightening, entertaining, or particularly good in any sense. |
LoneWolf said: @Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian. |
Lelouch22 said: Despite the facility only containing technology that determines the hue of each worker, the significant flaws present within the Sibyl system were noticeable yet again, since, even after killing another, one's crime coefficients can lower. Im not sure about this but at some part i kinda understood this: Psycho pass is not directly related to the crimie coefficient, at least not linearly. Masaoka said that the facility can only scan stress and to know crime coefficient (or job aptitude) requieres an analysis by the Sibyl system, but the sybil system don't reach there. Yet people in the facility knew each other psycho pass, so clearly they don't need sybil system for that. Meaning that even if his psycho pass "improved", it doesn't mean his crime coefficient did as well. |
VanisherOct 26, 2012 12:31 AM
| Good mystery of the week episode with Kogami being boss. Soundtrack is aweseome as usual Was like "oh damn" when Akane pissed off the guy with the glasses |
itsvero said: Kougami's really an enigma. Wonder what Urobutcher's gonna do with his character... probably killed off by Akane in the end. i think so too already said last week that i thought the OP foreshadowing what Akane would be like and that she might kill Kougami in other news the Sibyl system is still continues to be a failure of a system lol |
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| Shinya fight club style at the beginning. I wonder what his connection with Shogo is. Of course you can't have cyberpunk without machines going crazy for one reason or another. I quite like how this Hue thing plays a part in the ep, makes it different in a good way. I'd be great if they explored that (and the Psycho pass of course) in more depth in further episodes. Do it Gen, do it, do it. Of course can't forget the Dominator. Cool stuff. Looking forward to the next ep. Post-Moe said: - an obnoxiously suspicious manager feigns ignorance of crimes going on under his control -if you simply yell at someone who you suspect to be a murderer, they'll instantly try to kill you if they actually are, proving your suspicion -the newbie is a "fool" who just doesn't get it -two pivotal decision makers have a bad history that no one is allowed to speak of, straight out of Mean Girls -more "imma huntin' dawg huntin' ma prey" On top of all that, this laughable revelation: "Guys, listen. I could be wrong, but maybe the Psycho-Pass system isn't perfect!?" youdon'tsay.jpg This show is a lost cause. -If you're a cop and the culprit is not a sociopath, it'll work. It actually happens. -The newbie gets it, it's just not her style. -Mean girls? You complain about this anime, but use Mean Girls as some kind of standard? -Not sure what's your trauma with that specific phrase, but there was none of that in this episode. -The psycho pass wasn't involved here, it was the Hue. Two different things. Anyway, flaws in the psycho pass were "revealed" in episode 1. Maybe you've been reading too much Tvtropes. |
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| Ginoza seems especially suspicious this ep, giving that evil glare and all... He probably has something against these latent criminals though it's just my guess. I thought that the manager was the murderer with that evil face of his. Still pretty confused about Psycho-passes and hues though... |
| I mainly see the animes... so don't blame me for not knowing about the Manga/LN |
| Yes, exactly, not much is happening and so far it's just episodic. Even though I'm enjoying it until now, I really want to see how the story pans out and of course...the main villain(s)! |
| The background music fits the action scenes so well, holy shit. Kougami is one badass, seriously. That look on his face when he was 'fighting' those machines was great, just like a 'carnivore cornering its prey'. Also Kougami confronting Kanehara was very smart of him. I'm curious to find out what happened with Ginoza and Masaoka. Loved the last few minutes of this episode, non-stop action. The Dominator's 'Destroy Composer' mode is too fucking awesome. Man those 'boom' sounds are amazing. I just love how the dominators and pretty much everything rely on 'online' connection. 6/5, epic episode. |
LucarioDudeOct 26, 2012 2:13 AM
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| That fanservice. A nice way to begin the episode xD Kougami is a sexy beast \m/ |
_Rika said: That fanservice. A nice way to begin the episode xD Kougami is a sexy beast m/ no. |
| Looks like it will be following the episodic formula. Nothing interesting happened in this episode - I hope a plot twist will take place soon. Well, there was... some fanservice. |
Jester0fDeath said: The animation was great, the music matched the scenes, and the characters are as interesting as ever. There were some great one-liners, as stated by others. If you don't care about real life application of this anime, don't read on. However, one thing that bothered me was the "detective's intuition" and Kougami's forceful tactics. Intuition is not an accurate way of determining guilt, it is a way for people to feel confident about their guesses. In this case, I feel that they should have placed emphasis on the logical evidence, such as that man was the only one who had a motive and keep their minds open to others. In real life, though, intuition usually just closes a detective's mind to other possibilities and causes them to only focus on evidence agreeing with their intuition, because they have already decided that they are right. Also, what Kougami does to the suspect is a coercion tactic. Everyone has to admit that if someone threw you on the ground and told you that you were going to ruin your life, you would feel like stopping him from ruining your life, which would most likely involve forceful tactics. Both an innocent and guilty person would not want to be know as a killer, falsely or truthfully. The actions they would take would be similar, and a innocent person could be convicted. Sorry for the blather. I am interested in this kind of stuff so I want to disprove what I believe is not true. Good points, however, there is one thing you are forgetting. Remember the scene following the harassment Shojo was making to coerce the guy and then was running in that hallway with Akane? He said "if he's innocent, we should make it out alright. The reason why he said that was even if he was innocent and was looking to take revenge with the drones, there's no way he would've been able to program the drones in time to kill them. That was how they found out he killed the other three. He already had the drones programmed and ready to kill when he needed them. I know that is a bit of an assumption, but I'm feeling fairly safe in my assumption that there's no way he'd be able to program them in time, especially considering the amount of maintainence these drones require. Also looking at it from the other side, the guilty guy wasn't begging and pleading that he was innocent. He wasn't acting like he was being falsely accused. It's one thing to for someone to act out of being falsely accused, it's a complete other thing when you act out of wanting to cover your tracks. The man was obviously trying to do the latter. Overall, interesting episode. I actually pitied the killer in this case. He was thrown into an environment where he was constantly bullied in order to preserve the other people's mental state...and that behavior was actually encouraged. |
| Akane just… ughh. She was said to be a top student yet she hadn’t shown any skill that convinces me of that title. She’s so clueless about the system and all she do is keeps asking questions every time. She’s practically useless in this ep. She’s just there so Masaoka can explain Sibyl System to us, the audience. Please prove me wrong at next episode. Give me more Yayoi and Shion, please! And Makishima, please show up again. I also don't want this anime to be episodic series. Sure, it will be good episodic, but I want the plot. |
KyokutouOct 26, 2012 6:04 AM
xtremexx said: i pitied him too, however atleast he was stunned and not killed. Because his psycho state was not exceeded the limit of the system to actually kill him I believe. But 3 lives have already lost, with a mass murder like that he should be judged a death sentence. Maybe because the system saw there was still a chance that his mental state could be stabilized so it didn't kill him, despite that he has already taken the lives of 3 other people ... But then again, what the hell? The system is flawed in the very first episode, instead of taking the rape victim to the hospital, it decided to killed her (thks to Akane that she was still alive though). So I guess the main plot is that Akane will do something to screw the system and reveal those master minds behind it. |
Takana_no_HanaOct 26, 2012 6:11 AM
Duoprism said: In an ideal world, the Sibyl System should theoretically provide a representation of a person's psychological state. Sibyl then determines then what it deems to be the most correct action that should be taken, whether it's the strength of the Dominator or your career choice. Yet ultimately the final decision does come down to the people who utilize the Sibyl System. Sibyl does not undertake any action of it's own (at least not so far). But that is the problem, so far, in 1st episode it was Akane who went against the system but the enforcers(Shinya) decided to take the action based on what the system suggested. So it was still Shinya, who decided the final decision which followed the system, to kill the girl. Tsunemori is a clear representation of this, as she obviously had a full range of choices she could have picked, but she decided to join this specific department because she deemed it was the right thing to do as she was the only one judged by Sibyl with an A rank for the role; not because Sibyl picked this role for her since she was the only one judged with an A rank. I think you're wrong here, as she even doubted herself whether if she was suitable with the role of a detective or not. She chose this department because she was the only one who ranked A, and she thought she could be able to do something which others couldn't. Because in other departments, there were also people who achieved the same score as her so she wasn't an "unique" individual if she joined those. When it comes to the latent criminal Enforcers, one could argue that such a black and white judgement of a person's mental state is clearly incorrect and should be taken with more examination, but it's the fact that people take Sibyl System's word at face value that causes these seemingly harsh boundaries for when a person is a criminal and when a person is normal. Science is not a completely precise art; yet it seems that people in Psychopass's society seem to think it is, and Tsunemori clearly recognises this (this may be why she achieves the A rating). Lack of proper knowledge behind how to use Sibyl's information is basically the cause of much of the conflict behind whether or not it is "fair" to use such information. A system that is clearly designed to provide information, not a be all and end all judgements. That is what the show wants to deliver so far, the conflict between people who trust the system, take actions based on what the system suggests, and others who go against the system(Akane). I guess there will be an episode, when an order from the system is absolute and Akane has to deal with, either go against, or follow it. |
Takana_no_HanaOct 26, 2012 6:55 AM
| Great episode Interesting to see those explanations about Sibyl System and Psycho Pass True nature of Shinya, I kinda expect it but such a sick way to prove guilt of that employee |
Duoprism said: Everyone seems to point blame at the Sibyl System in this series... To me, Sibyl is not the one to blame, it's the people that utilize it. In an ideal world, the Sibyl System should theoretically provide a representation of a person's psychological state. Sibyl then determines then what it deems to be the most correct action that should be taken, whether it's the strength of the Dominator or your career choice. Yet ultimately the final decision does come down to the people who utilize the Sibyl System. Sibyl does not undertake any action of it's own (at least not so far). Tsunemori is a clear representation of this, as she obviously had a full range of choices she could have picked, but she decided to join this specific department because she deemed it was the right thing to do as she was the only one judged by Sibyl with an A rank for the role; not because Sibyl picked this role for her since she was the only one judged with an A rank. When it comes to the latent criminal Enforcers, one could argue that such a black and white judgement of a person's mental state is clearly incorrect and should be taken with more examination, but it's the fact that people take Sibyl System's word at face value that causes these seemingly harsh boundaries for when a person is a criminal and when a person is normal. Science is not a completely precise art; yet it seems that people in Psychopass's society seem to think it is, and Tsunemori clearly recognises this (this may be why she achieves the A rating). Lack of proper knowledge behind how to use Sibyl's information is basically the cause of much of the conflict behind whether or not it is "fair" to use such information. A system that is clearly designed to provide information, not a be all and end all judgements. Bingo and bongo at the same time. I do agree with you that in this society, the problem isn't so much the system but the people that utilize it. HOWEVER, I'd even go so far to say it isn't so much the people that utilize, it is the people who developed the Sibyl System and/or the people that create the rules/laws to judge the criminals. Basically what this society has done is create a model for measuring the human psyche. Upon doing this, they've setup an order for how they'll judge people this system deems to have a criminal mentality. This society is far too reliant on the Sibyl System and even as this episode implied, there are loopholes to even get around this system. As you implied, this society is far too reliant on what we can tell is an imperfect system. Perhaps when you said "utilize", you did also mean the creators and the enforcers of this system. I wasn't 100% sure if you meant this police force or the entire society itself. This is one reason why I hate all the people that whine about Akane and "how she's useless." Akane was this top notch student not because she makes for a great police officer, but understands the flaws with the Sibyl System. That's the reason why she's an inspector and not an enforcer. Let's face it, the police have people that take care of all the dirty work. They are called "enforcers." The inspectors evaluate not only the enforcers, but the crime and criminals at hand and make judgments as to what actions should be taken. Although, it's not like all the inspectors are the same. While Akane is more open-minded and sees things through the Enforcers and victims perspectives, Ginoza sees things through a strict law-abiding enforcement perspective. He's more built around regulating than evaluating...that's why Akane is such an important addition to the staff. |
| Monster of the week formula...how disappointing. Fortunately, there's some character development going on at the same time and some 'lore' exposition. |
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| I didn't expect it go be this good. Amazing episode, the Dominator has another kick-ass mode. I wonder if it has a fourth mode too. This is really good so far and it can be even better. I'm looking forward to more. |
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| I found this episode to be really really really awesome. I pretty much liked everything about it. Cool show so far. |
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