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symbv said: Ah I see, it was not anything to do with the info but more of amount having a rather heavy impact on Saki and thus brain hurts.Yumekichi11 said: However I wonder with all the depiction of the monkeys and their caring for each other why of reactions Saki does the face-palm in the spoiler I mean WTF is that for exactly? Makes no sense as to her reaction towards this. I think it makes sense for her reaction, which seems to me she was struggling to absorb all the torrents of information and keep her mind clear and unconfused. symbv said: I am surprised it was only that but I understand your point. The mechanism seems to have failed still.Yumekichi11 said: I think it was quite clearly explained by Shun in the episode. I am not sure how it is translated in English sub but that has to do with the "Kishi kiko" that prevents a human from killing another human. The image is a self-protective mechanism by the robot library against human sabotage.About thee end, well I liked all that priest monk person in the spoiler burning off that monster but WTF is that girl in the flames? Who is the kid and purpose of this image? Could it have to do with the answer it was giving out? |
| After watching Episode 4, this got a lot interesting. |
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| holy crap even though i knew nothing good would come from knowing the truth that info dump was insane as well as this episode |
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| Information Overload + kids at that age could comprehend = almost all them going insane. |
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Yumekichi11 said: I am surprised it was only that but I understand your point. The mechanism seems to have failed still. It still had an effect, however. The priest was not well afterward, and |
| Brilliant episode not only fleshed out the history of the world but also pieced together those mysterious flashbacks that occurred throughout the previous episodes. This anime is getting better and better by each passing episode. |
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| Idk why but I'm getting this to aru majutsu plot feel from this Idk why is guess when they started explaining psychincs and what not but this is finally getting really interesting. |
| It is revealed. |
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| Things are getting better now. Our cast learns their civilization's history and how it came to today. My god, Mamoru is so spineless I wanna punch him real bad. I wonder how can they overcome this ordeal of this blowdog now that the monk is tired of using his Cantus? Death feedback... Interesting, I guess that people with Cantus that kill people with it can see it... so I guess the creatures of today are humans of the past? Holy. |
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| Now the adventure begins in the next episode.. |
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Fiji said: My god, Mamoru is so spineless I wanna punch him real bad. Because most 12 year old kids raised to believe their civilisation is peaceful and perfect would react well to finding out that everything they believe is a lie. Fiji said: I wonder how can they overcome this ordeal of this blowdog now that the monk is tired of using his Cantus? Fiji said: Death feedback... Interesting, I guess that people with Cantus that kill people with it can see it... so I guess the creatures of today are humans of the past? Holy. Entirely possible. |
| A very intense episode,have to say the best episode so far out of any of the shows so far this season. And we finally got enlightened of the past civilizations and how the current ages came about. I am really enjoying this right now. |
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| Wow... that was a dialogue-heavy episode :D Great ep. Tension is building up again. Now, I'm curious what the story is really about lol |
| i was about to drop this series if this ep didnt hold up. But it was rather interesting so ill keep watching. |
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| Awesome awesome awesome awesome!!! So i think its true that the queerats are previously human who failed to get their cantus/psychic power awaken right? Interesting... The monk is quite cool and i don't really think he sealed the kid's cantus with a bad intentions, he just doing what the system told him to do, he seems like a pretty decent guy but well we'll see... BEST ANIME THIS YEAR! Even better than tsuritama, awesome!! And i heard that there'll be yaoi/yuri element in it? great i hope it will be sensual and engaging while being artistic at the same time :) |
millo said: So i think its true that the queerats are previously human who failed to get their cantus/psychic power awaken right? Interesting... Certainly quite possible. That, or millo said: The monk is quite cool and i don't really think he sealed the kid's cantus with a bad intentions, he just doing what the system told him to do, he seems like a pretty decent guy but well we'll see... Yeah, they broke the law and the law commands that their powers be frozen for it. |
| Hm, isn't there a way of avoiding restrictions? Say, killing with closed eyes? Or imagining something non-human. while destroying? |
MexonizatorOct 21, 2012 4:24 AM
Mexonizator said: Hm, isn't there a way of avoiding restrictions? Say, killing with closed eyes? Or imagining something non-human. while destroying? I suppose you could have someone try and fool you into thinking it wasn't a human that you were killing, but you'd have to actually fall for it. After all, the Minoshiro-Modoki's projection of a human, which was obviously fake, was enough to trip the mechanism, if only partially. |
| Nice! I haven't been this hooked on a dystopian far-future since I read the Nausicaa comics! Really enjoying the feel of this and I can't get Maria's face out of my head. I think it's jsut the red hair and well drawn hairstyles that's doing it though! |
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| nice ep, finally we got some answers |
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Barion-Zara said: Where does this PV imply Yaoi?edwd2 said: BunnyKing said: Everyone is dropping this show because of yuri/yaoi unfortunately. 5/5 btw Watching: 15,341 Completed: 0 On-Hold: 247 Dropped: 436 At least not right now, but I doubt A1 will animate those scenes, and I don't want to see them either If u watch the PV2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J-Vw9WfQs4&feature=relmfu I think they'll actually animate it. |
| Excellent episode. This was truly magnificent. |
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wenchance said: This show is getting intense. Liking it more with each new episode. I think I'm the only one here who cried a bit after seeing 980 Petabytes of all the bibliographical in the world get burned to a crisp by a monk. It's like the library of alexander but worse. No. I wanted to cry too. Not to mention besides the knowledge, It was the cutest library ever, I would love to have one of those as pet. amare135 said: Where does this PV imply Yaoi? It implies sex (hetero) but I think the person was suggesting that hetero sex |
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| Fabulous episode, that's what I like in anime series At ep 1,2 my vote was oscilating between 6 and 8 (especially for graphics, music, and plot potential) At ep 3 I was sure to mark it as 7 but waiting for the next episode to reveal some of the history secrets Now I put 8 byt I''m thinking about 9 - this show can be great, i'm wondering what will bring next episode |
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| The long introduction has paid off. As of now I'm fully invested in the show's narrative and characters. |
| Ara ara. |
| I hope we don't have more episodes like this. Ten minutes of one person straight up talking to the camera does not for acceptable exposition make. |
| Wow , this episode was freaking amazing. I love the soundtracks in this anime , it's so emerging. Does anyone when the OSTS comes out? |
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Shoujo_Q said: Mexonizator said: Hm, isn't there a way of avoiding restrictions? Say, killing with closed eyes? Or imagining something non-human. while destroying? I suppose you could have someone try and fool you into thinking it wasn't a human that you were killing, but you'd have to actually fall for it. I don't think it's necessary, because... Shoujo_Q said: After all, the Minoshiro-Modoki's projection of a human, which was obviously fake, was enough to trip the mechanism, if only partially. Exactly! This proves that you don't have to realize nature of your enemy (of course the monk knew they're rats, not people). It's just a trigger in your brain, which works by recognizing a creature before you. So theoretically all you need to do is deceive it on a level of logic. |
Lelouch22 said: One of the most intriguing scenes was when the suppressed memory of Saki severely desiring to kill the old Priest was unveiled, in which she had temporarily suffered through the "death feedback". I would like to say again that Saki did not hurt or tried to hurt the old priest. The old priest tricked Saki into thinking she did, thus triggering her "death feedback" response. This is to make sure that her "death feedback" mechanism worked fine for her. I would expect other kids should have gone through similar experience in their initiation rite. Yumekichi11 said: Yumekichi11 said: About thee end, well I liked all that priest monk person in the spoiler burning off that monster but WTF is that girl in the flames? Who is the kid and purpose of this image? Could it have to do with the answer it was giving out? symbv said: I am surprised it was only that but I understand your point. The mechanism seems to have failed still.I think it was quite clearly explained by Shun in the episode. I am not sure how it is translated in English sub but that has to do with the "Kishi kiko" that prevents a human from killing another human. The image is a self-protective mechanism by the robot library against human sabotage. Actually it succeeded in hurting the priest, although the priest, having such strong power, managed to kill it off first. Yet just that image was sufficient in gravely hurting a person with so strong power. |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
Xpwn3ntial said: I hope we don't have more episodes like this. Ten minutes of one person straight up talking to the camera does not for acceptable exposition make. This isn't a person, this is a talking library! |
| This show has given me some long lost feels. |
Mexonizator said: Exactly! This proves that you don't have to realize nature of your enemy (of course the monk knew they're rats, not people). It's just a trigger in your brain, which works by recognizing a creature before you. So theoretically all you need to do is deceive it on a level of logic. That's because the trip is subconscious, which is not a logical reasoning level of thought. Also, this: SetsukoHara said: Xpwn3ntial said: I hope we don't have more episodes like this. Ten minutes of one person straight up talking to the camera does not for acceptable exposition make. This isn't a person, this is a talking library! |
| Wow, this was good. A lot of info and action. Apparently, people with those syndromes the minoshiro mentioned were demonized by the scientists sp everyone would think they're only legends. Now I'm wondering if what happened with Saki's powers in the first episodes may have something to do with this. Like the kid that turns into a karma-demon in one the stories they read in class. Blowdog. Very imaginative hehe Again, this anime fascinates. Might be the best of the season if keeps this pace. |
BatoKusanagiOct 21, 2012 11:14 AM
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| I loved this episode but the ending left me very confused. Did the monk die at the end, and if he did, what's going to happen to Saki and her friends? Or they ever going to get back to their village and get their powers back? Also I notice in the next episode preview that we are getting a time skip, but they still appear to be stuck in the forest. Now I have to wait a week just to find out. |
Shoujo_Q said: Mexonizator said: Exactly! This proves that you don't have to realize nature of your enemy (of course the monk knew they're rats, not people). It's just a trigger in your brain, which works by recognizing a creature before you. So theoretically all you need to do is deceive it on a level of logic. That's because the trip is subconscious, which is not a logical reasoning level of thought. I didn't mean you should think logically to deceive ("They're rats, not people, therefore it should be fine"). No. I say, it's just a biological device, some mechanism operating indepedently from you and it has a machine's logic. So: IF (I recognize it as a human) AND (I'm killing / harming him) THEN ( 'Starting execution of the programme of suicide.' ) ElSE ( 'It's ok. Exit.'' ) ENDIF Just a trigger. In that case you just need to make so it never recognizes something you're killing as a human. Shoujo_Q said: Also, this: SetsukoHara said: Xpwn3ntial said: I hope we don't have more episodes like this. Ten minutes of one person straight up talking to the camera does not for acceptable exposition make. This isn't a person, this is a talking library! Right! But did you notice? The monk freely attacked the creature and got his recoil only when it showed image that could be recognized as a human (a woman with a child). Also the library said it's a way of self-defence. But if the appearance of the library could run the trigger in attacker's head on its own, there wouldn't be any need to show the woman, right? |
MexonizatorOct 21, 2012 11:19 AM
Shoujo_Q said: Did you even watch epsiode 4? Way to be completely rude. I obviously did watch episode 4, or else I wouldn't be commenting on this thread. Even if they said that sexual activity was stress relief, which is already common knowledge, I didn't expect the actual characters to go through with that. |
Mexonizator said: Right! But did you notice? The monk freely attacked the creature and got his recoil only when it showed image that could be recognized as a human (a woman with a child). Also the library said it's a way of self-defence. But if the appearance of the library could run the trigger in attacker's head on its own, there wouldn't be any need to show the woman, right? I'm unsure as to how this is relevant to the point SetsukoHara was responding to (the fact that Xpwn3ntial thinks that the Minoshiro-Modoki talking for ten minutes does not constitute acceptable exposition). itsvero said: Shoujo_Q said: Did you even watch epsiode 4? Way to be completely rude. I obviously did watch episode 4, or else I wouldn't be commenting on this thread. Even if they said that sexual activity was stress relief, which is already common knowledge, I didn't expect the actual characters to go through with that. You asked why they would have sex. It's made abundantly clear in Episode 4. |
UnbornMVs said: MEHHHHHHHH Broing episodes , thought of dropping the series twice , but i'm strong . I looked at your list and saw the problem. |
Shoujo_Q said: Mexonizator said: Right! But did you notice? The monk freely attacked the creature and got his recoil only when it showed image that could be recognized as a human (a woman with a child). Also the library said it's a way of self-defence. But if the appearance of the library could run the trigger in attacker's head on its own, there wouldn't be any need to show the woman, right? I'm unsure as to how this is relevant to the point SetsukoHara was responding to (the fact that Xpwn3ntial thinks that the Minoshiro-Modoki talking for ten minutes does not constitute acceptable exposition). ? You quoted it and I thought it was an argument. Was I wrong? Shoujo_Q said: itsvero said: Shoujo_Q said: Did you even watch epsiode 4? Way to be completely rude. I obviously did watch episode 4, or else I wouldn't be commenting on this thread. Even if they said that sexual activity was stress relief, which is already common knowledge, I didn't expect the actual characters to go through with that. You asked why they would have sex. It's made abundantly clear in Episode 4. BTW, how about pregnance? Or unwanted children're just discarded after they was born? |
MexonizatorOct 21, 2012 11:31 AM
| This episode was great. It explained allot how there society came to be what happened previous to it why children disappear and why there is so much propaganda. And why the children aren't told about the past. To have a past that reduced are current population to 2% that's just scary no matter from what point you view it, it doesn't mean it was just a war it means it was a total massacre. It was a shame that the strange creature wasn't allowed to finish it's conversations before they killed it this however does make it clear how much there society wants to hide there past. |
| I actually have a feeling that most MAL users are too retarded to understand a) what an exposition is b) how a story is composed c) what world-building is d) how they can perceive something that isn't handed to them on a silver plate. Seriously, if you are too dumb to get this then I suggest you go right back in your shitty battle Shounen subforum and scream how SUGOI Zetsuen No Tempest, K, Code Breaker, Little Busters and all the other crap is. This, along with Jinrui, is one of the rare good examples of mature storytelling we got from the Japanese animation industry in the past year. Are you that impatient? Are you that deluded from the over-exposure of style-over-substance material? Sit back and try to think for once, you degenerated individuals. This episode was excellent and I think we might have - along with Jojo - one of the contenders for the best anime of the season right here. Character development as well as the explanation of the past millenium was handled in an amazing way. |
| Steel Ball Run anime when? |
| Awesome episode. Shit has gotten serious. |
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| Holy shit, I need to re-watch episode 1-4 and write everything down, didn't think we would learn so much after only four episodes. Did that "reaper" smile, I couldn't tell? |
| God, that was just epic! so far the best anime of season. |
| GREAT EPISODE!!!!!!!!!!!!! We learnt what happend in the past and how everything started but we don't have all the info. Seems like next episode we will have a time skip. I can't wait.This anime is awesome :D |
| SHIT JUST GOT REAL. |
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Nidhoeggr said: This, along with Jinrui, is one of the rare good examples of mature storytelling we got from the Japanese animation industry in the past year. Are you that impatient? Are you that deluded from the over-exposure of style-over-substance material? Sit back and try to think for once, you degenerated individuals. I can agree with you that Jinrui was one of the good examples of storytelling in the past year, however, this episode of Shinsekai yori is very different than Jinrui. Jinrui handled exposition slowly whilst the story was ongoing in an engaging and interesting way. This however told you it straight up in a 10 minute monologue, more suited for a wiki entry. It's really interesting but it's just not a good way to tell it. |
| oh man, I am fucking confused. But I love it, it's different from all the other stuff airing right now. Quite sad that people drop things after like, one episode. |
idk why I was here but I'm prob back to playing Dragon's Dogma 2 again when you read this |
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