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InfiniteDestiny said: Thus you could be optimistic about the potential plot ideas; heck this image alone proves questions as to who is going to do what, etc Not to mention i seriously don't think the mystery is over; its just a guess but i think they will all connect somehow in the end; like for example if they start "another" mystery it connects to the one just "solved" Calm down, bro, I was just expressing my opinion at this point, not directly attacking this show ;P. Never saw that image, but I guess it does look interesting. Like I said, I wasn't as hyped for Hyouka like a lot of people are. I was more partial to Shirokuma Cafe, Kimi to Boku, and Apollon this season, but Hyouka at the moment is still so-so for me. At the moment I wouldn't be surprised if it went down hill or became engrossingly interesting, just depends how it all pans out for me, personally. |
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InfiniteDestiny said: Oh, ok. That makes sense now. Thanks.kaarosu_318 said: InfiniteDestiny said: kaarosu_318 said: Can somebody explain to me about the whole ice cream thing? I really don't get it. Why did such a pun make Chitanda cry? Well say it to yourself, ice cream, i scream...not that hard, thus why Oreki said lame pun; as for why Chitanda cried i think she said it; its because she feared being "dead" while still alive; thus the whole animation with the rabbit being sacrificed while everyone turned away. I know it was a pun. It's not that hard to figure it out. Now I'm wondering about the "being 'dead' while still alive" part. What does that supposed to mean? I just explained that also but...to phrase it in a different way from what i understood it to be is to be cast off, the uncle was "sacrificed" as was shown with that rabbit animation and was treated as the dead even though he was still alive since not one person gave him notice despite what occurred; thus the whole meaning, you are still breathing and alive but people treat you as if you died. |
| Ice cream turned into I scream. Damn you Oreki, you such a 'conan' there! |
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kaarosu_318 said: IMO it's such a simple term deriving from a kindergartner's song that was given new meaning in a dark sense. We never think of the term "I scream" as something scary since you just start hearing an ice cream truck in your head at that point, but at its simplest roots the phrase can easily conjure up some scary imagery. Forget the sweet version, close your eyes, and link that term to an abandoned child left in the dark. Envision their setting, then read the words in your mind- at the very least I get some terrifying visions.Can somebody explain to me about the whole ice cream thing? I really don't get it. Why did such a pun make Chitanda cry? That's what I liked about everything so far. A concept so basic it seems pointless to debate and discover, yet it's diverse enough in its execution that it builds up to a satisfying point. While they didn't use any straight-up scary animations (aside from the rabbit being attacked, good god!), the silence and the slowly darkening atmospheres carried everything. It's one of those things that didn't need much dialog and it worked very well. |
| first time i ever considered a hyouka ep so short tbh. the first few episodes had me checking the timeline from time to time but i didn't have to do it for this week's ep. ; w ; and now i know what i'll say when i'm craving ice cream I SCREAM 4 ICE CREAM |
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| Well, that was pretty cool, I guess. That ice cream pun was smart. Looking forward to seeing more mystery-related plot soon. |
| I'm kind of disappointed in how this "mystery" ended. I was hoping for a more climatic revelation, but it fell flat. Anyway, I hope that something new comes up soon. |
| That concludes the student's movement mystery. All in all very nice conclusions. But man, that pun was really lame. meelo said: I SCREAM 4 ICE CREAM This is how you turn a lame pun into a good pun. I like it. |
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Ardamaeus said: Since the mystery is solved, what now? 16 eps left o-O. Well considering the fact that the overview says events that happened 33 years ago, and the fact that these events were 45 years ago, something else is going to be discovered that will continue on. I will say this was the strongest episode yet. Past two episodes have been great, but we'll see if it lasts going into next ep. |
| everything up to this point has been amazing and this episode set the bar even higher! |
KaitoDash said: But man, that pun was really lame. Well it was meant to be lol, even Oreki said it was lame :P |
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raxius1230 said: Yeah find THE SHIT HEAD WHO STARTED THE SHIT MOVEMENT! Kill him or punch him or just plain take revenge. Mister no name mention that made Jun have that draw-straw shit game and as a result become the shit taker of any shit to come at him instead of eating that shit head on. Well in the end good episode this mystery is over...or is it?? I feel there is still way more to it. I think the lesson may be right under our noses. WHEN SHIT COMES JUST SAY NO! Simple as that. No I don't want to be part of your shit! No I don't want to be in this anymore. No leave me alone! No I am out of this shit! Do it alone! Sadly Jun demonstrated what it is to be a helpless scapegoat and in thee end be eaten. It is to say that to be strong means to deny what we do not want or that we fell not easy with. To leave off all associations of it and to finally be free of its burden rather than be part of it for x reasons such as duty, pride or being part of something that you do not want to disconnect from. |
Yumekichi11 said: raxius1230 said: Yeah find THE SHIT HEAD WHO STARTED THE SHIT MOVEMENT! Kill him or punch him or just plain take revenge. Mister no name mention that made Jun have that draw-straw shit game and as a result become the shit taker of any shit to come at him instead of eating that shit head on. Well in the end good episode this mystery is over...or is it?? I feel there is still way more to it. I think the lesson may be right under our noses. WHEN SHIT COMES JUST SAY NO! Simple as that. No I don't want to be part of your shit! No I don't want to be in this anymore. No leave me alone! No I am out of this shit! Do it alone! Sadly Jun demonstrated what it is to be a helpless scapegoat and in thee end be eaten. It is to say that to be strong means to deny what we do not want or that we fell not easy with. To leave off all associations of it and to finally be free of its burden rather than be part of it for x reasons such as duty, pride or being part of something that you do not want to disconnect from. You do realize that's exactly what the student body did as well? They refused to accept the administration's decision and protested. And really? What? Kill Him? Getting a little extreme there for no reason. |
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| I got totally fucking scared when I was listening to Houreki explaining what 氷菓 meant. I scream...that reminded me of the painting 'The Scream' by Edvard Munch. Scary shit. I couldn't really adjust to the light mood that came afterwards. To me, it felt really sad and pitiful. I'm surprised most of you haven't expressed the same kind of feelings I have. It was a decent episode for me. I only wish they extended the sad/dark mood a bit longer. |
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| I like this conclusion. I had a feeling that her uncle was no 'hero' - because honestly, 'heroes' don't exist in real life, or at least not without faults. It's not surprising that her uncle regretted his actions. I sure as hell would've. |
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| This ep made me change my score for hyouka from 7 to 9 and put in in my favourites. Well i suppose we may get to find out who made Sekitani be the sacrifice at some point or maybe it'll just be left for us to speculate on our own. :O Oreki's becoming more active and less dull |
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| Mystery is over? IMO, unlikely. Something will probably pop up after a few more episodes and we'll probably be missing some more info. However, great episode seeing as this mystery is most likely solved :) |
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meelo said: I SCREAM 4 ICE CREAM LIKEWISE: HYOUKA FOR MORE HYOUKA!!! ^^ Next ep will be interesting...Another mystery Ü For Chitanda to cry, I was thinking that her uncle told her the meaning of Hyouka in that rabbit-dog tragic tale. After all, she was just a child, and to talk about something in a way that will make children sympathize/empathize more (in a fable-like story), her uncle hit the spot and made her cry. She forgot about it...probably because the images of the dog eating the rabbit and the other rabbits not doing anything (refer to anothology's cover) was very overwhelming; children's imagination concocts eerily. Some psychogenic amnesia she had there. |
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Wasabi said: Well OK, yeah but we are talking about someone who ruined a future of education of someone. That someone can be as extreme as kill the person who screwed him over. Sadly he did nothing because the lesson comes as he was too weak. However a not weak person may go as far as killing for something like this. Some might even go after all of the students who got them screwed. I am aware of that but I am not comprehending as to what does the council have to do with this. There is one person who instigated all this and used Jun as a scapegoat and that person should be held out. Yumekichi11 said: raxius1230 said: Yeah find THE SHIT HEAD WHO STARTED THE SHIT MOVEMENT! Kill him or punch him or just plain take revenge. Mister no name mention that made Jun have that draw-straw shit game and as a result become the shit taker of any shit to come at him instead of eating that shit head on. Well in the end good episode this mystery is over...or is it?? I feel there is still way more to it. I think the lesson may be right under our noses. WHEN SHIT COMES JUST SAY NO! Simple as that. No I don't want to be part of your shit! No I don't want to be in this anymore. No leave me alone! No I am out of this shit! Do it alone! Sadly Jun demonstrated what it is to be a helpless scapegoat and in thee end be eaten. It is to say that to be strong means to deny what we do not want or that we fell not easy with. To leave off all associations of it and to finally be free of its burden rather than be part of it for x reasons such as duty, pride or being part of something that you do not want to disconnect from. You do realize that's exactly what the student body did as well? They refused to accept the administration's decision and protested. And really? What? Kill Him? Getting a little extreme there for no reason. The fact the person disappeared or concealed is the more reason to find him. The killing therefore stands as a means of extreme measure fueled by the a insane mind of whom would go crazy after this was done to them. |
Tyrel said: Mystery is over? IMO, unlikely. Something will probably pop up after a few more episodes and we'll probably be missing some more info. However, great episode seeing as this mystery is most likely solved :) I would say that that may go into searching who was the real leader of the movement (this I consider most probable) or something about burning of that building - who did it or why they did it but overall nice episode MC has shown signs of intelligence - yes, asking people who were there is better than guessing or making things up XD for now I can describe this series as... in mystery department - quite weak but at least possible to solve by viewers in SoL part - here it's good, nice character interactions plus they are likeable (except MC of course) |
So that's what happened. Well Oreki strikes again. I Scream O_O |
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| I didn't read the novels but, thinking logically, they'll adapt 4 out of 5 volumes(cause as I heard 5th volume has new characters and the story is incomplete). And this ep was probably the end of vol. 1. So we have large chances to get new OP and ED next time. |
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| I figured out the "i scream" pun by myself when Eru was remembering her conversation with Jun. But still, smart. |
| Shit was Awesome.... Upgrading score from 7/10 to 8/10 5/5 |
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| I SCREEEEEEEEEAAAMMM 5/5 Btw, Oreki has been solving mysteries here and there because she likes Chitanda right? Yes? Yes? The answer should be yes... :/ |
| If Hyouka, episode 1~5 was not a TV series but a movie, it'll easily get a 9 from me. Wow... As soon as Houtaro said the message was Ice Cream... It's like my mind was hit by a train... What a horrible message, full of despair and anger. The look on Satoshi's face when he figured out the pun was exactly like mine, except instead of face grab, I drop back into my chair. For those that said nothing have happened in Hyouka, I don't think we're watching the same show... Houtaro started to reflect on his current lifestyle, became more pro-active. (As Ibara said, he's actually very excited, he just didn't show it) And he also hinted that he may have been quite envious of those who had "rosy" school life. If it weren't for Houtarou, Jun's story may be lost forever. Jun's final message of "I Scream" is one that is quite powerful, and can be interpreted in many ways. It term of writing, this show is easily the best show of the season. |
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| Dang so they fed him to the wolf, that messed up. |
| I thought Hyouka has some relation with the word Kuyashii. Didn't know it was simple as that. Damn, I blew it. Impressed by this episode since I wasn't satisfied with the conclusion in the past episode. |
| Pretty good, but it's still boring as hell tbh but i personally don't mind that while others do. Hope they'll go deeper into the "supernatural" part in the upcoming eps. |
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| That librarian was still hiding something. And what happened to the first anthology, I believe they have number 2? As I raise my score for yet another series, I am struck by just how many good shows there are this season. |
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| Brilliant episode. So Hyouka is ice cream--> i scream, a suitable pun. Oreki life will become less grey and glad that the things they built up since ep 1 is actually gave us a great conclusion in the end. Overall good and pretty interesting arc |
bruce19 said: Well that was boring. The protagonist's lack of enthusiasm is really killing the story. He just doesn't show it, as Ibara stated, he's actually quite enthusiastic about the whole thing. I mean, just think for a second, for someone as lazy as he is, to set up a meeting, finding the original writer, set up an appointment etc etc. D2Synua said: Pretty good, but it's still boring as hell tbh but i personally don't mind that while others do. Hope they'll go deeper into the "supernatural" part in the upcoming eps. Not sure if I missed anything or you're just trolling... (leaning toward the latter.) |
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| This show is growing on me with each episode, much thanks to Houtarou who I can relate with in his inability to be social and show feelings. I wonder how it will continue. |
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| While the mystery wasn't completely solved, it was solved to the satisfaction of Eri finding out why she cried. The original point of the arc was Eri asking the group to help revive the memory of her uncle's talk and why she balled her eyes out. The flaming martial arts building mystery would most likely be just mob mentality at one of the bon fires. Some random individual went overboard and torched the place. I doubt that would have any relevance other than solving a mystery of a random unpremeditated act. As for the shadow leader(s) of the student movement. I doubt that will ever be solvable. The students used Eri's uncle as their fall guy cause they were cowards that wouldn't face the punishment themselves. In a "samurai" society like Japan, doing something like that would be beyond dishonorable. Japanese loath shameful acts and usually leave them as untold secrets. I doubt ANY of them would admit to such a thing now and dig up the past. Even the Librarian who admitted their was a lot of shenanigans involved with Eri's uncle being chosen ring leader wouldn't come forth with any information on the Shadow leader(s). Unless there is some private memoir left behind by Eri's uncle that mystery won't be revisited. |
Cirris said: Indeed she would know of him but perhaps not where he lived in the present. There were 2 indications on her part in my pic Dump I did that proves of her expressions: As for the shadow leader(s) of the student movement. I doubt that will ever be solvable. The students used Eri's uncle as their fall guy cause they were cowards that wouldn't face the punishment themselves. In a "samurai" society like Japan, doing something like that would be beyond dishonorable. Japanese loath shameful acts and usually leave them as untold secrets. I doubt ANY of them would admit to such a thing now and dig up the past. Even the Librarian who admitted their was a lot of shenanigans involved with Eri's uncle being chosen ring leader wouldn't come forth with any information on the Shadow leader(s). Unless there is some private memoir left behind by Eri's uncle that mystery won't be revisited. Shame Sadness Shock first being very obvious with her expressions. That being said perhaps in thee end revealing of that person would reveal her helplessness in stopping that person. |
| Its great that he solved the mystery but I think it was too fast !! |
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darkerealm said: I'm liking this anime more and more. Those trivial mysteries are nice to ponder about. And I think the librarian knows something? Her reaction was a little off. (although I might be over-thinking this) I knew it! :D Easily the best episode so far. I couldn't figure out the scribbles on the cover of Hyouka and it was awesome when Ibara explained it. |
| Didn't expect that mystery to end so quickly xD Good little mystery now really looking forward to next weeks :) 4/5 |
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| Ice Cream is delicious. |
| I really don't care about the mystery, I just want to marry Houtarou JSLKADÇASKNASKÇMDKA |
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| Lol. I scream for ice cream! Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah~ |
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