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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- i thought he really killed them he now how to act lol |
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| I wasn't fooled for a second xD, because it would have gone against everything I had assumed Vash stood for, but I didn't expect that Julius' father actually let them go. So in the end where did the caravan go? Back to where it started? |
| Vash went nuts., but is a nice guy because he didn't hurt the kids. :P and Nicholas is awesome as always. Good Episode. :D |
ShinobiCJOct 10, 2009 2:38 AM
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| damn, i want to see him always like that :DD he is like Alucard from Hellsing :D |
| This ep made me remember how much I hate milly('s voice) |
| I liked this one. Vash was almost the badass everyone made him out to be xD . Got to love the rubber bullet trick! |
| Such junk... |
| I love when Wolfwood hit Vash with the rubber bullets haha Anyway, such an awesome episode |
| I'll try to remember that when Vash acts like a bad guy that he usually has something up his sleeve (besides his heart)! Good episode. (but will we see that Wellwood guy again?) |
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ManU-Alchemist said: Wow a whole episode and not a joke from Vash. But the pregent part was kind of funny even though I really hate that Milly girl. Whaat? She's the heart of the show! As well as Vash anyway... I really like this kind of episode, predictable yes, but the mood is so right. It's obvious he wouldn't kill those kids. |
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| Good ep |
| My favorite part was when... Also, the way ... was hilarious xD; Also, for some reason I'm calling him "Wormwood" >.< |
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| I thought he killed them and was wondering what the reason could possibly be? The whole time I was wondering what the real reason he killed them could have been. It didn't even occur to me that they might be alive. |
| Meh |
| Even when I was in crowd, I was always alone |
| lol, I knew he didn't kill them. That would be like Kenshin killing someone just for money. |
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| Of course Vash wouldn't kill. He's too gentle. D: |
Life is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated.~ |
| Way to waste all that pudding. |
| Come back soon, Wolfwood. The last three episodes have been far and away the best of the series so far. |
| Every episode Meryl annoys me more. After watching all the crap he's done for other people she calls him a no good outlaw and pull a gun to his head. |
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| You're amazing, Trigun. And here I thought Wolfwood would join them but he will come back for sure. |
PhoebeSM said: Did anyone else feel like this episode was a bit contrived / awkward in the way the plot was developed? Most of the time I have no trouble getting into the story, but here I just couldn't follow anyone's motivation. Everyone seemed to get very over-dramatic about everything and nothing quite made sense. I'll try to make some sense out of this: Why is it so hard to get into the city? This is not really explained. It must be something really big if the only way you're getting in is a tattoo to the client's "son." Maybe there are too many bandits in the vicinity and they have to make sure their regular clients stay honest by having such a permanent procedure, but I'm just guessing. Why would everyone die if they can't get in? I guess by denying access to the city the caravan and everyone who works in it can't work and they somehow can't just go along their merry ways...ok you win. This one doesn't make any sense. Why would they be selling one single random girl into slavery who doesn't really appear to be that useful or pretty? I'm pretty sure she was part of a group of girls that will be sold. And slavers don't have to justify quality in their product. There's always a buyer. Why would Wolfwood want the couple to go back without regard to the fact she would be sold? I think he was talking to the boy more than the girl, since the caravan was dependant on the boy's arm. And the girl was in love with the boy so she wouldn't leave him. And the boy was running away to escape the guilt of having wealth that was made by slavery and to protect her girl. So it was either they both go or no one goes. Why would Milly so willingly help the couple and ignore the plight of all the innocent bystanders who are with the caravan? I assume some of them are innocent? Milly is simple and kind-hearted unlike Nicholas who was thinking about the long-term effect their escape would have on the caravan. She felt they needed help and didn't think too much of it. Thats my two cents. |
| Not so bad of an episode, but I expected something more to happen. |
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| Ill say this and i hope offense is taken. Only a complete idiot would think he actually killed the kids for money, when he wont even kill bank robbers and bandits. It was a very predicable plot device, and those whom where tricked by it haven't really been watching this anime and should quit with any kinda of complex thinking for the rest of their life. Call me a dick if you must, but it just had to be said. |
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| I thought he really killed them, it really cought me by surprise. Love the show so far. |
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MaxVdub said: kind of wish they would have better explained how the father intends for the caravan to get by without the boy. as it is it felt like they left the idea of the caravan dying without the boy unresolved and just said "yep, OK, the problems of this episode are solved. hurrah!" Agreed. That confused me as well, I'm not even sure how the whole thing got resolved. |
| Yeah, I was pretty sure he didn't kill them, wouldn't be Vash mentallity. So is father had planified is evasion all along. Vash have some awesome poses. Also, I agreed with Wolfwood about what the little boy was doing was selfish. He didn't even discuss it with is father. I mean human traffic is really horrible, but condemmed a whole town to death or destruction is as cruel. |
| «Time is passing so quickly. Right now, I feel like complaining to Einstein. Whether time is slow or fast depends on perception. Relativity theory is so romantic. And so sad.» - Kurisu Makise a.k.a. The Zombie |
| Damn he could be a really cold blooded killer if he wasn't all that kind but damn his epic glasses got smashed :( Well the priest got separated again but I'm sure we'll see him again! |
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PhoebeSM said: Did anyone else feel like this episode was a bit contrived / awkward in the way the plot was developed? Yeah, I felt it was one weird episode. |
Fureon said: MaxVdub said: kind of wish they would have better explained how the father intends for the caravan to get by without the boy. as it is it felt like they left the idea of the caravan dying without the boy unresolved and just said "yep, OK, the problems of this episode are solved. hurrah!" Agreed. That confused me as well, I'm not even sure how the whole thing got resolved. Yeah, and what about the other "slaves"? Plus, boy that couple was dumb leaving behind a suitcase full of money and a jeep in the middle of the desert!? I really hope Vash or somebody took at least some of that 20mill. |
| Love and Peace!!! |
| That priest looks like Spike Spiegel from afar. |
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| Yeah, I get people's plight with the resolution. Didn't really remember much from this episode. |
| "Let Justice Be Done!" My Theme Fight again, fight again for justice! |
| Awesome episode, I thought he'd really killed those 2 but he hadn't! Yeah, I can't believe she wanted all that pudding then just drops it lol. The pregnant bit was funny. I hope Wolfwood comes back soon! |
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| I wonder who became the recipient of the box containing $$20 million, since it did not seem like any of them had possession of it in the end. I suppose Vash explained to Meryl of his plan ahead of time, leading to her cooperating and driving that vehicle to aid Julius and Moore, which was why they were sheltering next to it in the end. Though, how she managed to sneak past the barricade of armed men as well as how the two runaway lovers managed to play along with Vash’s plan are mysteries. As people have said, without so much as addition clarification, the caravan still has no way to survive in the desert without profits from illict trade, so all of those people are doomed regardless. The best possible outcome would have been for the $$20 million to be distributed amongst them allowing them find new places to reside, despite how they are technically all criminals. It seems that Vash's sunglasses will be fixed by next episode. |
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| Amusing episode, because it was centered around Milly and Wolfwood while Vash was such a wild card most of the time, although I never really believed he really killed anyone. It just feels like such a loose thread that they didn't fully deal with Wolfwood's worry about how they would do without Julius though. Since his father let him go, even hiring Vash to stage it, maybe they have some other way of surviving? Would have taken one line to confirm. |
ColdXClue said: Ill say this and i hope offense is taken. Only a complete idiot would think he actually killed the kids for money, when he wont even kill bank robbers and bandits. It was a very predicable plot device, and those whom where tricked by it haven't really been watching this anime and should quit with any kinda of complex thinking for the rest of their life. Call me a dick if you must, but it just had to be said. You're a dick! Dame, Wolfwood and Vash reminds me of sanji from one piece and alucrd from hellsing this episode. |
| He tricked me too, that Vash! |
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| They leave out too much between episodes. They're not connected at all, at the beginning of each episode I have to wonder if I accidentally skipped one. Also, today's story didn't make sense, mostly because the characters and the setting were not introduced properly. Who shelled the outskirts of the town? Who was Julius's real father? Why was Julius let go? So, according to Woolfwood's logic, I guess the caravan is dead now? |
| Ok episode. Seems this might be the last time we see Wolfwood for a while... |
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PhoebeSM said: Did anyone else feel like this episode was a bit contrived / awkward in the way the plot was developed? Most of the time I have no trouble getting into the story, but here I just couldn't follow anyone's motivation. Everyone seemed to get very over-dramatic about everything and nothing quite made sense. Why is it so hard to get into the city? Why would everyone die if they can't get in? Why would they be selling one single random girl into slavery who doesn't really appear to be that useful or pretty? Why would Wolfwood want the couple to go back without regard to the fact she would be sold? Why would Milly so willingly help the couple and ignore the plight of all the innocent bystanders who are with the caravan? I assume some of them are innocent? Am I stupid? (don't answer that last one...) Totally agree. I felt like Wolfwood was a total POS until his change of heart. It seems like his real excuse for defending the status quo was that he is afraid of making a change like a lot of people are. His argument was pretty bizarre though and I am not sure why the caravan would go under. Didn't we just hear that they are filthy rich? Maybe that just meant the owners (seems somewhat likely). Wolfwood is arguing that if the kids leave, it's two lives for many, but what about the lives of all of the slaves? And if he shot himself in exchange for the two kids escaping, that's two of them vs. one of him. He did both a "it's not my problem" neutral jerk and "the law is the law even if it's totally evil" lawful evil jerk. Millie and Meryl both did some really dramatic stuff in addition to Wolfwood pulling the gun out. Meryl by pointing a gun at Vash and Millie with her pudding. Also, Vash was annoyingly quiet when they were in the jeep, which just made things worse. The boy needing the tattoo to get into the city also makes no sense; wouldn't the caravan leader have it? And yeah, how did the caravan get by then if it was such an issue before? There was some cool stuff: The volcanic area The funny scene with the girl under Millie's dress Wolfwood vs. Vash (a classic western trope) Wolfwood's fight with himself over the desire to do what's right and worrying about disrupting the status quo (presumably to stay alive) I assume the kids took the money at the end, but who knows? Vash's solution was kind of cool What a weird episode |
| This episode was very fun! I seriously enjoyed seeing tough guy Vash being all stoic and brooding throughout the episode and it was awesome seeing more of Milly! She's a neat character with more depth than expected. |
satyrelfheim said: PhoebeSM said: Did anyone else feel like this episode was a bit contrived / awkward in the way the plot was developed? Most of the time I have no trouble getting into the story, but here I just couldn't follow anyone's motivation. Everyone seemed to get very over-dramatic about everything and nothing quite made sense. Why is it so hard to get into the city? Why would everyone die if they can't get in? Why would they be selling one single random girl into slavery who doesn't really appear to be that useful or pretty? Why would Wolfwood want the couple to go back without regard to the fact she would be sold? Why would Milly so willingly help the couple and ignore the plight of all the innocent bystanders who are with the caravan? I assume some of them are innocent? Am I stupid? (don't answer that last one...) Totally agree. I felt like Wolfwood was a total POS until his change of heart. It seems like his real excuse for defending the status quo was that he is afraid of making a change like a lot of people are. His argument was pretty bizarre though and I am not sure why the caravan would go under. Didn't we just hear that they are filthy rich? Maybe that just meant the owners (seems somewhat likely). Wolfwood is arguing that if the kids leave, it's two lives for many, but what about the lives of all of the slaves? And if he shot himself in exchange for the two kids escaping, that's two of them vs. one of him. He did both a "it's not my problem" neutral jerk and "the law is the law even if it's totally evil" lawful evil jerk. Millie and Meryl both did some really dramatic stuff in addition to Wolfwood pulling the gun out. Meryl by pointing a gun at Vash and Millie with her pudding. Also, Vash was annoyingly quiet when they were in the jeep, which just made things worse. The boy needing the tattoo to get into the city also makes no sense; wouldn't the caravan leader have it? And yeah, how did the caravan get by then if it was such an issue before? There was some cool stuff: The volcanic area The funny scene with the girl under Millie's dress Wolfwood vs. Vash (a classic western trope) Wolfwood's fight with himself over the desire to do what's right and worrying about disrupting the status quo (presumably to stay alive) I assume the kids took the money at the end, but who knows? Vash's solution was kind of cool What a weird episode I think at the end of the episode as Moore and Julius are walking into the sunset you can see that right next to the jeep that they SHOULD have LOGICALLY escaped in has the briefcase with the money still sitting there. I wonder if anyone picked it up or is it still sitting in the desert to this day? |
| Good episode tbh, better than the last ones. |
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