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Jan 26, 2012 8:56 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Detective guy is thinking suspicious of the group (being related), and the Mayonaka TV has him!

Deliquent kouhai's carrying a little boy to hospital... and he got worried for her.

Taking long time to decide to get in this ep.

That detective guy not being a guy? Complex of wanting to be adult early/ being detective "guy". (what? not a guy?)

Being old?
tsubasaloverJan 26, 2012 12:56 PM
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Jan 26, 2012 9:10 AM
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I like how Naoto is one of those people who talks with their eyes close, lol...Any who, Emperor rank up - should be getting a better Emperor persona than King Frost. So non-gamers expect that. I kinda want it to be Thoth...

Finally something remotely normal, huh? First a sauna then a strip club..Now a laboratory...Nope, not "normal", Naoto's makes this anime episode a gender bender. Lmao @ old Yosuke.


Look at how scared the girls were,roflmfaoo. Decent episode.

Next Scent: "I want to know the truth" - continuation of Shadow Naoto. And possible gaining of a new bond/arcana.

*New Chariot persona, Chimera? Certainly a better choice than ara mitama. But was he in Persona 4? I can't remember having him in my compendium. LOL - it was Genbu - temperance, Keyhole quality was terrible, couldn't tell correctly.

Persona guessing:
For Devil: Succubus?
For Death: Mot?
For Tower: Cu Chulainn?
Of course, there's always fusion...

Also - I guess Sun Arcana will be attainable around the culture festival?
RealScreamerJan 26, 2012 12:10 PM
Jan 26, 2012 11:58 AM
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Nice pentagon in Yuu's status.

I like Naoto's Shadow in TV - this scene looks better than I expected.
scary...? Maybe a little.

I'm impressed! Aika knows everything - That's why she is everywhere. She's got better information than Izaya in Drrr!

No words can define how much I love this episode!
It's a little pain, that they divided this part of game to two episodes. But...
Maybe that will be better?

Oh God, I'm still excited, I want to watch the next episode! xD
From this ep (including this) there will be animated the best parts in game, I think so.

Aww, I wish watch this episode with subtitles as quickly as possible!
But I know that I must wait...
Jan 26, 2012 1:37 PM
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Must say I really like this episode a lot. The animation is good and also the pacing. Also notice that the opening is redone without the glasses covering the action scenes which makes it much better.
Kanji-kun rank up! I love how much he worries for the ones he likes; his mother, his nakama... and Naoto.
Naoto's shadow is scary. Lol'ed at the girls being the most afraid of getting hit by the "aging beam". Conclusion on battle next episode, looking forward to it.
mikadocsJan 26, 2012 1:41 PM
Jan 27, 2012 12:38 PM
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Awesome episode, good job Kanji!

4/5
Jan 27, 2012 12:48 PM
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A solid episode. P4A continues to impress me with how good of an adaptation it is. This episode, they took it a step further with incorporating a gameplay element within the start of Naoto's Shadow boss battle.

One of Naoto's attacks in the game causes a status effect called Enervation that makes it so your SP (Spirit Points that are needed to use Persona skills) are drained significantly each turn. P4A took it a step further when Yosuke got affected by it by making him OLD. It's funny, because a Persona skill you can use to inflict Enervation on enemies is called "Old One".
Jan 27, 2012 1:05 PM
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I'm very happy with the way they paced this episode. Keep up the good work.
Jan 27, 2012 1:43 PM
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This episode was about what I expected it to be like. My only fear is they may be rushing this a bit if it's going to end at a two-cour, but there's only a couple more dungeons after this, so they're probably well on pace. :)

I love how Aika is better informed than the rest of Inaba, even more so than a certain informant of Durarara!! fame mentioned above. Speaking of which, doesn't Izaya's philosophy seem an awful lot like Loki's from Norse mythology? As far as him saying how he 'loves humans and how they react to situations'. But, I digress.

I love the 'aging beam' that Shadow Naoto uses against the Investigation Team (Galgalim Eyes, it causes the 'Enervation' status ailment in the game), poor Yousuke, lol. The girls seemed especially frightened of it, maybe they didn't want to look like Hisano Kuroda (Death Arcana) THAT quickly. I was kind of surprised how Rise didn't defend the Investigation Team when Naoto stated 'this wasn't a game' to her anymore, and Rise retorting with, 'It's not a game to us either!'.

Another quality episode, oddly enough it was not available to me in 720p HD. I'm not surprised, but I always had the option before, and it's jarring to watch anime in SD nowadays (which is saying something since I was so used to VHS quality back in the Stone Age 90's). A solid 9/10.
Jan 27, 2012 2:12 PM
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What?! Naoto is a girl wtf... I really did not see that coming (Never played the game)

Good episode the ending was funny
Jan 27, 2012 2:29 PM

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lol'd a t kanji blushing when naoto seesms them at the school gates,

CURE KANJI'S GAYNESS NAOTO!!!
Jan 27, 2012 4:15 PM

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Well well, another enjoyable episode :)
The Pace of the episode was nice, though I kind of dislike the fact that sometimes this anime shows a 5 sec scene from 1 day... oh well. I'm just complaining about the little things.
Naoto is a female?! well.... didn't see that one coming. . .
Kanji is as emotional as ever lol
lmfao its the age ray !
poor Yosuke he's all old and frail now :P
Well then, I look forward to seeing the events unfold in episode 17!

Jan 27, 2012 4:38 PM

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Boss fight next week i can't wait I WANt TO SEE THE FIGHT

LOL Yousuke his youth disappear a blink of an eye
Jan 27, 2012 5:28 PM

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no one mentioned the new persona Yuu used in this ep?

anyway, time to see the fruits of his labour during the summer break in the next episode. Neo featherman will be proud
Jan 27, 2012 5:28 PM

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I re-watched it in HD. MUCH better. ;D

And Yu's new Persona, that was definitely Genbu.

At the beginning of the episode, did anyone notice Nanako without her usual twintails? I assume she just got out of the bath, but darn if she isn't even cuter with her hair down straight like that. :)
Jan 27, 2012 5:36 PM
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Naoto's a girl :o guess Kanji will get it on :>
Jan 27, 2012 6:33 PM

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ITS A TRAAAAPPPP!

Anyway- I'm glad that Persona had a little action in it again :P
Jan 27, 2012 7:26 PM

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LOL at OLD!Yosuke.

Can't wait for the next episode~
Jan 27, 2012 8:01 PM

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YES! They updated the opening!! love it even more!!!

10/10
Jan 27, 2012 8:24 PM

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nice episode the Turth is finally out!~still waiting to re watch it in HD though..


but that ending was pretty funny kinda looked like they were running away because they were *underleveled* since they haven't gone into the Tv in forever!.
Jan 27, 2012 8:36 PM

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Really nice episode
I seriously laughed when they were running XD lol And Yuu was carrying grandpa Yosuke.


I don't like the new ending.... :( oh well
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Jan 27, 2012 10:33 PM

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Even though I know Naoto is a girl now, she's still sexy. XDDD

Awesome episode!
Jan 27, 2012 11:37 PM

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Well that seemed to be only five minutes long. I'm interested to see what happens with Naoto after they rescue her.
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Jan 28, 2012 12:14 AM

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I don't like the new ending.... :( oh well


I was feeling the same, but than I realized that its not this ending that is bad, its just that the first one was SO good.
Jan 28, 2012 6:20 AM

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Oh God, such a perfect first part~ *-*

I can see a real QUALITY here. Probably because the studio knew that if they didn't animate the Naoto arc perfectly, the bluerays would sell nothing. I mean, she's DA BO...I mean, GIRL.

And so many KanjixNaoto hints. I'm the happiest fangirl ever now~

Talking about him, such a good touch to add The Emperor S.Link here. I really felt it was a Kanji episode as well. So fitting~

TOTALLY WAITING FOR THE SECOND PART. MOAR SHADOW NAOTO AWESOMENESS *-*
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Jan 28, 2012 9:26 AM

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not sure if I didn't notice from last week, but the opening theme this week was changed to the more epic.

towards the end when they cycle through the main personas, its not just lengthened actions from the first opening through a pair of glasses, its entirely new actions and animation.

I guess the staff figured people were unimpressed with the rehashed animation
Jan 28, 2012 9:42 AM

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...one question..why did Yosuke age. That wasn't even....xD; Uh anyways.
Good first part to Naoto's dungeon I guess. On with the investigation.

Jan 28, 2012 12:53 PM

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...one question..why did Yosuke age. That wasn't even....xD; Uh anyways.

The "enervation" status has a "old one" part or something like that. Also, if I'm not mistaken, the equipment to avoid this status has "kid" or "young" on it.
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Jan 28, 2012 5:16 PM
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KayChan4U said:
...one question..why did Yosuke age. That wasn't even....xD; Uh anyways.

The "enervation" status has a "old one" part or something like that. Also, if I'm not mistaken, the equipment to avoid this status has "kid" or "young" on it.
That's because you lose "SP" when you acquire Ennervation status. SP is basically your character's spirit hence you're growing older or dying spiritually. And as you say, the most iconic Ennervation attack is called "Old One". So yeah, most attacks and such basically play with the "it turns you old" idea.

Jan 28, 2012 11:25 PM

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Pretty good episode.
I think I've heard it somewhere that Naoto is a reverse-trap but ignored it.
Thus, surprised that it's true.
Jan 29, 2012 7:33 AM

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Leon-Gun said:
WhiteFrenzy said:
KayChan4U said:
...one question..why did Yosuke age. That wasn't even....xD; Uh anyways.

The "enervation" status has a "old one" part or something like that. Also, if I'm not mistaken, the equipment to avoid this status has "kid" or "young" on it.
That's because you lose "SP" when you acquire Ennervation status. SP is basically your character's spirit hence you're growing older or dying spiritually. And as you say, the most iconic Ennervation attack is called "Old One". So yeah, most attacks and such basically play with the "it turns you old" idea.


Seen this idea floating around this thread.
Wrong. Exhaustion reduces SP each turn (as by being exhausted, your moves will be much harder to pull off.
Enervation HALVES the character's stats, hence it makes the character more frail and decrepit, hence the name of the move is "Old One".

Just clearin' some stuff up.
As usual (for me anyway) 5/5.
Jan 29, 2012 8:13 AM

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Awesome episode. Naoto's arc is extremely well made, imo, and the revelations about her in the Secret Laboratory were epic.

Updated OP : F-yeah! The battle animations rolling when the refrain plays were pure awesome, and heck, they even fixed Rise's face in that last 10-second part of the opening (where they all sit on a pile of TVs, taking off their glasses).

9/10, can't wait for next week!
Everyone is jumping too much into conclusion that because J.C. staff is doing it. It's gonna end up badly. It hasn't even started it. Give them a chance at least. And when the time comes and they actually ruin it. We can all go to Japan, go to J.C. staff and burn their offices. I'll pay for the trip lol

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Jan 29, 2012 9:22 AM

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another great episode Naotos arc !!! and lol at Yosuke ageing like the new scene in the OP aswel!!! awesome can't wait for next episode
Jan 29, 2012 10:14 AM

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OP really grown on me, to think 1st one was pretty horrible.
Finally moving on with the story, i was wondering what Naoto's inner conflict is, and turned out he's a she, didn't expect that especially with such name - but i love it in japanese, that names are often universal.
Looking forward to hisher persona next episode.
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Jan 29, 2012 11:11 AM

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Nooo! I want the next episode now. ;A;
Jan 29, 2012 12:07 PM
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Favourite episode so far.Wasn't rushed and they handled Naoto's shadow rather well.
Hehe I love Shadow Naoto,Deadly-cute FTW
Jan 29, 2012 12:23 PM

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For an instance, I was hoping Yosuke got turned into a girl...

Jan 29, 2012 12:25 PM

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Oh god, poor Yosuke! I laughed so hard anyway ^^
Jan 29, 2012 5:33 PM

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Woo, now I can finally stop putting my Naoto comments in spoiler tags. I love what they did with this dungeon/part of the game but I'm disappointed that Secret Base didn't play at any point. Oh well, there's always next episode.
Jan 29, 2012 5:40 PM

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im glad they didnt do naoto dungeon in just one episode.
Jan 30, 2012 3:41 AM

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frustrated said:
For an instance, I was hoping Yosuke got turned into a girl...



haha, looks like a Bansho ! Hoping for more weird status effects ♥
Well, I can't say I liked Naoto in the game, she was a bit boring, but the anime presents her better - look at her shocked face, thats what i call emotion ~
Jan 30, 2012 9:18 PM

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The best part for me was when Yuu reported what Aika said and Teddy desperately tried to get some food from them, while they surpressed his attempts one after another causally, and the others did not even notice, or they ignored it. And then Rise was like "whoah", accidently held the spoon towards Teddy and he immediately took that chance. I wonder if she noticed it later?
Jan 31, 2012 4:29 AM

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Naoto-chan, you really should know human transmutation is not a very good idea. I have to wonder though, what will happen to Kanji and his feelings now?

I prefer the comedic episodes 3/5.
Feb 3, 2012 3:45 PM

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Shadow-Naoto was awesome.
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Feb 3, 2012 5:32 PM

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Ha! Yuu pulled a fast one at the very last minute with Naoto. As a traditional OTP shipper, I don't think Naoto and Kanji would work out at all, as the writers may have intended to imply with this episode.

Also, when Kanji said Yuu was a his best bud, Kanji seemed to....lean a bit more on the BL side with his embarrassment blushing. He looked like a girl about to confess their love.
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That was great!
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Feb 6, 2012 1:37 AM

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two part?? that was unexpected...

romi paku did a great job with voicing Naoto.. it suits her
too bad the eng dub gave away naoto's gender in the game...

LOL @ Yosuke turned old...
Feb 8, 2012 2:50 PM

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Oh snap, very surprised at Naoto's secret!

Brilliant episode, I always feel pumped when the guitar music starts and the personas come out! Couldn't believe it when the episode ended there.
Feb 13, 2012 1:43 PM

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Mind = Blown
Feb 13, 2012 9:57 PM

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WhaaAAAaaaaAAaaAAaAAaAt!?
He's a she?
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Feb 14, 2012 11:49 AM
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The dungeon part was somewhat cheesy imo.
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