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| THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- I didn't like it. The story was good, the characters had personality, it had plenty of action, but I didn't enjoyed, I was hoping to see more old characters back. 7/10 I simply didn't enjoyed it, but is still pretty good. |
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| I would say this is my favorite arc so far. The characters were great, probably my favorite cast all around from the series so far with pretty much everyone aside from Fugo doing something of relevance. I think that Diavolo was a step down from Yoshikage Kira as far as villains go, but Kira is easily one of the greatest shounen villains I've run across so there you go. His Doppio personality was entertaining though, kind of wish he would have been in more of the manga. And, finally the setting and story was probably the strongest here. One thing that bothered me is that Fugo and his Stand were very much underutilized. I was disappointed when he abandoned the group because his stand seemed very cool with some potential. But, alas, nothing happened there. Oh, and holy shit the battles in this were insanely good all around. My favorites being Bullacelli's battle on the train and Requiem sequence. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| So Giorno is now the boss. This part wasn't very good, ending was a bit underwhelming, and Buccellati was a better character than Giorno |
RX-782Nov 24, 2013 11:19 PM
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| Ravioli Ravioli make me a Gang-staroni |
| For Vento Aureo, I liked that there was a lot of thought put into the strategic battles and Stand abilities, but in terms of characterization and plot, Vento Aureo really lacks in comparison to previous parts of JJBA... At least Diamond is Unbreakable had a clear murder mystery plot and well-executed ending, despite dragging on certain sections in the story. Even Stardust Crusaders was consistent with its character development and story progression; readers got to know the main cast and their motivations, along with fight amusing and creative Stand battles in order to take on Dio. Vento Aureo, although it also had a fantastic cast and innovative fight scenes, didn't execute it's characters and plot as well as its predecessors. While the Stand abilities were mind-boggling and bizarre in every sense of the word, the back-to-back battles became a bit tedious; the only thing saving these continuous fights was the amount of wit and creativity Buccelatti's group used to get out of said situations. Part 5's ending also lacked a lot of creativity in terms of typing up lose threads and shedding light on plot devices like the Stand arrow and Diavolo's King Crimson... what the hell is this stuff about gaining invincibility from having these Stand arrows? I don't fully understand the logic behind how Giorno was suddenly able to defeat Diavolo. GioGio just absorbed the arrow (it 'accepted' him but not Diavolo because of fate???). By being 'accepted', GioGio gained the ability to manipulate living spirits; suddenly WHAM HE CAN DEFEAT TIME SKIP WITH MUDAMUDA AND GOODY-GOODNESS What. Hopefully this ending was just rushed exposition on Araki's part; I recall reading somewhere that his editor wanted Araki to end JJBA after Part 5 ... maybe Araki was backed into a corner/influenced by his editor when writing the ending of this arc? That's what I hope, at least. Despite the arc's weak ending, I do like how they developed most members (if not all) of Buccellati's group well. Having Trish Una develop from a damsel in distress to a crucial character was also a plus, as I've been pretty disappointed with how Araki portrayed women in JoJo. Despite the rushed ending, the characters packed a punch and the battles blew my mind. 8/10 |
| Part 5 was, great, the stand battles were very creative too. But Diavolo was a little weak as a villain compared to Kira. |
| Imo, the characterization and development lacked a bit at least compared to what I read in the previous series. I like the way this part adapts the manga to more intensity and strategies though and some of the Stands really have memorable moments and abilities that I won't forget. Trish also became one of my favorites in the manga later on. Otherwise, the ending felt lacking and I didn't like the main antagonist at all. 7/10. |
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| This part was pretty good. The ending felt a little underwhelming. But I guess just a page of Giorno obviously as the new boss is good enough I guess. Wish they would've added more scenes of him being the boss. The last couple of chapters explaining the fate of the gang before part 5 even started is a really nice touch. I actually liked that a lot. The side characters is definitely the hi-lite of this part for me. Loved the interactions within the gang. 8/10 |
| I don't think part 5 was bad, but I will say that ending was a little bit underwhelming and I'm still just a little bit confuse on how Diavolo's powers work exactly. RX-782 said: So Giorno is now the boss. This part wasn't very good, ending was a bit underwhelming, and Buccellati was a better character than Giorno Buccellati really did feel like the main character and I kinda wish he was the MC. At first I didn't like Buccellati's stand, but as the series went on it became one of my favorites. |
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| The start was very misleading in terms of setting up Giorno's powers and the return of previous characters and the ending could have also been handled better,everything else though is very well made imho. It didn't lose steam at all with its story and structure,there were no filler parts there was always a clear goal in mind,action sequences were much better and longer,enemies were genuinely threatening and you didn't know which one of our protagonists will live or not,stand powers started to get extremely creative with all sorts of space and object manipulations type of tactics. Easily the best in the series so far tbh. |
amateurJun 15, 2015 11:55 PM
| get a feeling so complicated.... I read diamond is unbreakable and wished it had more adventures like stardust crusaders I read golden wind that is very similar to stardust crusaders so i get the adventures, but wish it had the charm of diamond is unbreakable I thought the characters were great, still very much enjoyed it, the fights were awesome, but I feel like something was missing. |
| I was hoping we could understand more about Giorno's past and his relation to Dio. Overall, I enjoyed the Stand abilities and battles more than Part 4. |
| Oh Vento Aureo, outside of Phantom Blood, at least MAL, you are by far the least favorite kin of this massive franchise. Again ignoring Phantom Blood, at least at the time of this writing, you are the only part not to be within the top 1000. Do I agree with this and the answer is no but it's not hard to see why this is the case. Vento Auereo was the hardest part of the series to rate so far as well as being the hardest manga I had to rate so far (spoiler alert, that's not saying much at all). The series is comprised of such high highs & low lows that it was very hard to figure out I'd rank it. The only thing I knew was that it was better than Part 1 but not as good as Part 4. But now that I had some time to think about it, let me talk endlessly about as you scroll past this comment. I said it was a series of high highs & low lows and that's true for every aspect with the exception of the visuals. The character & stand designs are exquisite and very well perhaps the best of the series. There were some disappointing designs, like Silver Chariot Reqiuem could've looked a lot cooler & Diavolo's actual design but as a whole we've got some great designed characters out of this part. The art is mostly consistent & the action travels panel to panel greatly though I definitely had a few parts that I had to look over again to make sure I understood exactly what happened. Of course, they usually explained this afterwards but still. It may be the best in the series when it comes to aesthetic. In terms of story, it's really good at points. The middle of the story is really good. Still mostly exists to quickly transition from battle to battle but it isn't nearly as bare bones as Startdust Crusaders & the mystery involving Bruno's deadness & even Diavolo to a lesser extent were compelling enough that I wanted to see what happened next. However the beginning & ending I take issue with. The beginning had such a bare bone connection to anything that came before it that it was a bit had to become invested in the story. But once you get past that the story runs into a problem of being too easy for Gio. Gio joins the gang, kills Polpo, who so happened to have a ton of cash that Bruno just so happened to be the only one who know it's location, which leads to them just so happening to be the gang that has to protect & escort the super secret bosses daughter. Giorno's first act in the gang, almost instantly propels him into the best possible situation. & the ending, once Giorno actually has the arrow, was anti-climatic, devoid of any strategy or wit, just a ridiculous powerful power up to save the day (which is somewhat disappointing, since it was shown that there were ways to deal with King Crimson without this). The epilogue fight was a weird decision but okay & the actually conclusion was about as abrupt as Stardust Crusaders. Oh & not to mention, Polnareff just kinda having all the answers and contacting them, was kinda a lame way to set-up for the finale. Character wise this series is really good, at points. One of the best things about this series is that every member of the main crew (minus like Trish, technically) get at least a half-chapter sized flashback. Even though most of those backstories weren't very good (I really liked Bruno's & Abbacchio's, Narancia's was good too), they still added to the characters & made me connect with the more. The cast is really good, Bruno Buccellati is one of my favorite characters in all of JoJo, Trish's development was pretty good for JoJo's & a definite step in the right direction for this series's portrayal of women. Giorno, is one of the weakest JoJo's so far, I like him better than Jonathan but that's about it. He's a bit bland, definitely more on the dull side when compared to Joseph or Josuke but I don't dislike him. Diavolo himself is a very boring villain especially when contrasted to Kira however, the Doppio side of him was very entertaining so it almost balances out? Oh & Pesci and Prosciutto are two of the best side villains in all of JoJo's. I'm not really a fan of how the returning cast was utilized this time around. Koichi gets to have a few semi-cool moments during his run but man, Polnareff was more or less just used as a plot device. & since he was one of my favorites, it was pretty disappointing though he did have a cool moment or two. However the biggest issue, character wise, lies with Fugo, who ultimately only existed for one fight (that he didn't even win) & was entirely pointless otherwise. I understand that Araki was originally going to have him be a spy for Diavolo & betray Buccellati's gang, forcing Giorno to have to kill him (I believe). Instead, he is written off and never appears again minus that epilogue fight. I actually liked the scene where he is written off and could've been great to see him have to go after them and end up saving them. Or even just having Diavolo kill him regardless & like using his corpse to send a message to Buccelati's Gang like he did with those assassins. There were so many possibilities for how to incorporate Fugo in the main storyline again after that scene if he didn't want to go for the betrayal ending, so his disappearance from the story really is a low point. For as much focus as this part gave to it's supporting cast, it also happens to have the most shafted character in JoJo history. High highs & low lows. I haven't even touched on the battles yet, the cornerstone of the series. This part has some of the best fights in all of JoJo's, in fact it has my *favorite* fight in all of JoJo's, The Grateful Dead. I talked a lot about it in a previous thread so I won't repeat myself but something this part's fights do really well is use their environment. No part of JoJo so far has ever incorporated the surroundings of a fight like Vento Aureo does, where it can be damn well vital to the outcome of the fight. Narancia's fight against Little Feet probably best exemplifies this. However, the final fight of the series is a whimper & the Baby Face fight is one of my least favorites since outside of the "hand" trick & the creativity of Baby Face himself, was mostly just Giorno getting a power up & winning easily. Still, the creativity of the powers & the fights is as strong as ever, especially with stands like Sticky Fingers, Spice Girl & Metallica, if not the best. At the end of the day, I like Vento Aureo better than Stardust Crusaders but not as much as Battle Tendency. 7/10. |
| pretty sure with proper translation this is an easy 10/10 but we'll never know until it gets it |
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| The ending & final villain were a bit underwhelming but it was still great. I loved the gang (even Giorno hehe) I'm gonna miss them, this part had some of the best fights/stands so far. It could've been better for sure but it was still a good read. Also there's nothing confusing about the final fight & King Crimson. Iirc Giorno is the only JoJo who had a goal so far, congrats on being a gangstar :) Onto Stone Ocean now!! |
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| Overall, it was a good part. Some of the deaths weren't as impactful due to mediocre characterization and some of the Stand battles were more misses than hits (even more than SC), but it was fun due to its climax battle and creative Stands, like Buccellati's for example. 7/10 |
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UpperCase89 said: I didn't like it. The story was good, the characters had personality, it had plenty of action, but I didn't enjoyed, I was hoping to see more old characters back. 7/10 I simply didn't enjoyed it, but is still pretty good. That's a odd list for someone who didn't enjoy it. Those are however exactly the reasons why I enjoyed it more then Part 4. Everything felt organic and fresh. They didn't bring back old characters just to bastardize them and the new cast held their weight and then some. Deaths had impact and weren't there just to progress the story. The only gripe I have is the rocky, maybe even backwards, beginning. After seeing Koichi and Jotaro you never hear from them again and the entire story hinged on Giorno stopping Koichi from contacting Jotaro. Which aren't bad things per se but in the end you're left with cliffhangers that should of been resolved a long time ago. Still, it's a trivial complaint seeing how much this part does to revive the mythos of Jojo. You see a return to form with the chase for omnipotence, origins of antagonistic powers, and the potential super threat reveal. Brings back good memories of Part 1 and 2. |
| I would lie if I say I didn't enjoy it. But it left a lot to be desired. I really hoped Koichi or Josuke would appear again midway. Polnarff was a nice cameo, though. The one thing that bugs me the most is how the fact that Giorno is DIOs son is never mentioned again afted the first few chapters. I mean come on. DIO was the villain that started it all. He is connected to the name Joestar in a crucial way. But the manga ignores this for the most of the time. |
| Honestly found everything but the final battle to be some of the best in the series up to this point. 8/10 |
| My man Bruno is so confused about all of this xD. |
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| And it's over. It didn't have any drama or special story, battle after battle without any feeling into it. |
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| I know that Rolling Stones wants to euthanize Bruno for what it thinks is his own good but it's going to give him a death that's just as painful at this rate if it doesn't stop following him frantically like that. This is undoubtedly one of Sex Pistols' most impressive performances lmao |
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| Bruno looks like he's having difficulty following what Mista is stating lol |
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