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Aug 16, 2010 3:37 AM
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Poor guy, and poor Koan. :<
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Oct 20, 2011 11:50 AM
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Poor guy, and poor Koan. :&lt;


Why poor Koan? You mean Petz? ;)
Nov 13, 2011 10:21 AM
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Demando is a fucking idiot for not protecting Saphir.
I don't know why I felt so sad for Saphir; he was like totally useless in the show.
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Dec 30, 2011 2:04 PM
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I don't know why I felt so sad for Saphir; he was like totally useless in the show.


I was wondering the same thing, actually. It was an okay episode, but it would have been much, much better if everything wasn't packed into one episode. There was not much impact on Petz's side of things because we just now learned in this episode that she was in love with Saphir and then they try to tragically kill him off for emotional impact? Sorry, doesn't work for me.
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Jun 19, 2013 2:47 PM
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i didn't care for saphir & his annoying voice so i'm not devastated at his death in the slightest. i did feel sympathy for petz, however. the ayakashi sisters are such interesting characters that i actually wish they got more screen time after their purification so i'm just happy they made a reappearance.
Sep 5, 2013 9:05 PM
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I couldn't care for Saphir at all since he was rarely in this. I felt more bad for Petz. Maybe if we knew who she hated I would have more emotion over Saphir good or bad.
Feb 10, 2014 5:49 AM
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Aww, I feel so bad for Petz. I liked how Sapphire's eyes closed as soon as the bandages on his head fell down. He may not have done much in the series but I still wanted him to live ;_;

That look on Prince Diamond's face as he picked up his brother was intense. This was one of the best episodes so far this season.
Mar 8, 2014 10:08 AM
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Demando no baka!
If he had listen to him... this wouldn't have happened. I feel really sorry for Petz. :<
Jul 6, 2014 5:04 AM
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Death Phantom's monologue was so cool. That was a hell of a good episode! Saphir's death gave a dramatic, though beautiful tone to it.
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Jun 23, 2015 10:43 PM

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I agree Petz and Saphir's past should have been brought up much sooner. With all the episode for this arc, you would think taking out some of the other minor stuff would have been a better choice.

It still was pretty sad, though. I can't understand how Wiseman can constantly deceive the villains in this arc so easily, though.

Jul 21, 2016 5:07 PM
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Ultimately the death was not impactful because of Petz's feelings, but Demande's. While Petz has been sympathetic in the past this was too sudden for that.

Here, all the pain lies upon Demande's shoulders.

On another note, following last episode's homoerotic scene, have some Mars and Moon staring into each other's eyes:

Oct 14, 2016 10:32 AM
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Sad for serena/Usagi and Saphir
I don't like large dark/wiseman as villain.
surprise for sisters of black moon helped Saphir.
I hope next's episode great climax and and also like the diamond principe take forward and stop being manipulated.
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Dec 12, 2016 10:50 AM

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aaah..handsome Saphir...I don't want to part with you T-T I remember this scene out of my childhood, I was heartbroken with my 10 years about Saphir's death, i don't even know why, he hasn't even had that many scenes XD Still he was somehow very likeable (probably because one of the few non-idiots out there in the Sailor Moon universe)
Jun 27, 2017 4:41 AM
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i felt more sorry for demando than petz regarding saphir. the relationship between petz and saphir should have been brought up earlier for petz's feelings to have a much larger impact. i did have sympathy for her, however.

wish the ayakashi sisters had more screen time after their purifications. their story has been the most interesting since the doom tree arc.
Jul 13, 2017 9:56 PM
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The phantom sisters make cameo!!
Jul 13, 2017 10:16 PM
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Sean_Nessman said:
The phantom sisters make cameo!!


Kyaaaaaa they return!!!!
Kyaaaaaa half the episode is about them!!!!

WHY WHY WHY WHY??? Why wasn't Saphir made more important in previous episodes?? Why wasn't Petz's love hinted at more???

Anyway, I love anime death. I can think of hundreds of ways to make his death more impactful. I guess it's due to the way the author just thought up plot along the way, and didn't plan from the start.
That's why his death does not quite impress as Nephrite's lat season.

BUT BUT BUT BUT this is still one of the best episodes in the whole series.
Jul 13, 2017 10:16 PM
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Poor Petz, Saphir only cares about his brother.
Jul 13, 2017 10:23 PM
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Saphir is one of 2 decent guys in this arc (the other is Artemis)

Oh my God this ep is so kind to him. So so many close-ups on his face.
I guess injury is bad but head bandage on a guy is so fukkkking beautiful.

The scene where he smelled the grass then dreamed about his brother and their childhood is nice.
And when he gave Petz his jacket is nice too.
And Koan instead of waiting and doing nothing called Usagi, is nice too.
And when the Sailors appeared, their shadows were long long long, is nice too.

And when nii-san carried Saphir on his hands, is niceeeeeee.
Jul 13, 2017 10:32 PM
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A, the part when they girls remember Chibiusa when Usagi's mother brought out her cup is a nice touch.

Also, Chibiusa should transform into Black Lady long long ago!!
Luna-P's weapons are soooooo cool, I could not believe it, they're not even LOL like the cake, cosmetic, ... monsters. They're actually very pretty and useful and suit a girl well.
Sep 17, 2018 4:12 PM
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Wow! This has got to be one of my favorite episodes of the season. Poor Saphir, and poor Petz
Dec 22, 2018 2:54 PM

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i feel worse for petz then i do saphir honestly, i really love those four sisters honestly.
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A lot of stuff was shoehorned.

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Apr 15, 2022 1:55 PM

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My favorite episode from this season, and the one I always remembered the most. Poor good boi Saphir, the only one with an actual brain in that whole family.

I can get why many may think this was too rushed to leave an impact, but I disagree. The fact that we get to learn Petz's feelings for Saphir in exactly the same episode when we see him getting killed makes the feeling-sorrow intention actually more effective. Besides had we learned her feelings earlier would have meant we would have had a romantic subplot related to supporting characters that wasn't really necessary.
Apr 24, 2022 2:54 PM

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Poor Saphir, poor Petz. Poor guy had to die for being the only villain to actually realize that Wiseman isn't the most trustworthy. Now Demande's wised up to how suspicious Wiseman is at least, but from what I remember of the manga

May 22, 2023 1:27 AM

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Marnie said:
Ultimately the death was not impactful because of Petz's feelings, but Demande's. While Petz has been sympathetic in the past this was too sudden for that.

Here, all the pain lies upon Demande's shoulders.

On another note, following last episode's homoerotic scene, have some Mars and Moon staring into each other's eyes:

that mars and moon moment was very cute
loved et

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a very sad episode, saphir could've been a cool character, too bad he died so quickly.
i feel very bad for petz.
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