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Aug 14, 2010 12:01 AM
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Wow, they broke up.
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Dec 29, 2010 9:35 AM
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At some point I was suspecting Chibi-Usagi hypnotized him, but I'm not so sure about it - there seems to be something else going on here
Mar 31, 2011 6:11 AM
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Well it obviously has something to do with the vision he had when he touched Chibi-Usagi
Oct 12, 2011 12:51 PM
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I just love the villain sisters. Koan and Berthier gets my love xD
Oct 12, 2011 3:12 PM
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Gahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
I want to kill Mamoru now, no matter what his intentions are.
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Dec 22, 2011 4:34 PM
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Good stuff, how they handled the drama scenes was very well done. I'm guessing this was when Ikuhara took over as director because it certainly felt like he had his hand in this episode. The villain was hilarious btw, "put on extra make-up. DO IT!".
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Jul 21, 2012 3:46 AM
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If there's one thing I have to give to give Sailor Moon credit for, it'd be the drama scenes. They're all handled very, very well. Mamoru needs to stop whatever he thinks he's doing, I doubt this is the best plan when you could just .. you know .. tell Usagi what's going on?
May 13, 2013 6:14 PM
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Ugh...I vaguely remembered this subplot from when I first watched the dub over a decade ago. I just forgot how hard it was to handle (maybe it was toned down in the dub? I don't recall). I almost cried during the episode even though I knew what was coming, and even though I know what's actually going on. Sigh.

Chibiusa is starting to get annoying. I can still handle it, but I can feel the obnoxiousness bubbling under the surface and just waiting to burst. I am so not excited for when that happens.

I did enjoy the villain! A nice touch of comedy in an otherwise really emotionally tense episode. I think powder-puffed pancake-Luna was my favorite bit...
May 18, 2013 12:23 PM
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Oh I love how the always make the drama scenes so full and powerful of emotions, almost makes me cry everytime.. darn it!

I still wonder what Mamoru saw in that vision, I can only start guessing. . . I hope future eps will show that (づ。◕‿‿◕。)づ

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Aug 19, 2013 12:17 AM

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I do like the villains, however...

first we have Chibiusa being an absolute ass, we are beyond little brat at this point and now Mamoru has turned into a complete douchebag. Whatever you are thinking Mamoru, its not gonna work.

Can I punch both of them, please?
Feb 9, 2014 12:43 PM
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WolfWood37 said:
I do like the villains, however...

first we have Chibiusa being an absolute ass, we are beyond little brat at this point and now Mamoru has turned into a complete douchebag. Whatever you are thinking Mamoru, its not gonna work.

Can I punch both of them, please?
I also like the villains so far. They have a lot of personality.

I remember this episode from when I watched it over 10 years ago. It was so sad ;_; I agree that Darien's acting like a total "granola bar" (gotta love the english dub).

You can smack him twice, once for you and once for me ^_^

On a more positive note, in the beginning of the series Serena scored a 30 on her tests. Now she got a 32. Looks like Serena is improving...veeeery slowly.
May 4, 2014 1:39 PM

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Hm, I don't know why, but I wasn't really impressed by this.
I know Tuxedo Mask has a reason why he's doing this but eh...
I didn't like the villain this episode, with the jaded "beauty is from the inside" message.
We'll see how next episode does it.

Aug 27, 2014 11:07 PM

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More drama than I expected in this episode but it was really well done. The villains have a little more depth to them this arc as well--not the monster of the week but Berthier and her sisters.
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Apr 17, 2015 4:26 PM

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Tuxedo Mask has his reasons, still that was sad. The drama scenes were well-done.
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Oct 6, 2016 9:45 AM
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First time and second i have small desillusion,but after finish I understand probably the relevance for the story. The story this season have much mysteries.
Sailor moon so really stronger this season.
Apr 1, 2017 10:17 AM

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Oh it was so heartbreaking. Poor Usako.

"Please stop talking about math when I'm eating."
Jul 5, 2017 9:46 AM
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Oh Oh Mamoru is shit.
And Usagi even has to go to his apartment to ... apologize!!!!
Fuk him.
Jul 5, 2017 9:51 AM
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Ok I guess he's got of vision of the future, when Usagi'll become Queen and they get married. That leads to the building of the Crystal city, which then leads to its being destroyed by the villains and Usagi's dead??

That's no reason why you should stop seeing her. First, you've been through worse. Remember the Dark Kingdom? Second, altering the present to not get married in the future does not necessarily prevent the tragedy. The villains will still be there and earth will still be destroyed.

It's fukking obvious that he should sit down with the Sailors and tell them everything ab his visions, instead of acting alone and acting like a dick.
Jul 5, 2017 9:56 AM
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I've seen enough of this "my love for you causes you harm so we should just break up" kind of shit and everytime it annoys the hell out of me. It comes solely from the side of the boy, the girl knows nothing about it and is left with doubt and the making-up talk.

Fuk him. You'd better off with Rei Usagi. Once this Mamoru lost his mystery, he's got nothing left.
Jul 5, 2017 9:59 AM
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Lately I've seen a lot of crying in a phone booth.
Jul 5, 2017 10:09 AM
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I like the perfume-bottle yokai. And then she scribbles eyes and nose on her face. That is sooo over the top.
Jul 5, 2017 10:10 AM
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"I DON'T LIKE WEAK GIRLS"

What the fukkking hell???

You are basically, the WEAKEST LAMEST THING in this whole universe, you fukkker!
Aug 26, 2017 9:09 PM

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Well, this was a heavy episode... The tone when Mamoru ans Usagi chat was pretty heavy plus the animation and writting that were awesome!

I personally prefered the 1st season because it was more complex, one sided and solid but this one is starting to catching up to its predecessor.
Aug 8, 2018 1:26 AM
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To be fair, Tuxedo Mask did save Sailor Moon numerous times in the previous episodes but come on. Like, sure, Usagi's kind of cries a lot but she saved numerous people in the past. Including him. I'm sure she did her part already, in my opinion at least.
Dec 8, 2018 11:40 PM

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i had to take a break for a bit after chibiusa said "no, mamo's my boyfriend"... girl if only you knew thats literally your dad.

i understood mamoru had intentions for his reasons, but like most situations when people do that i dont see how they dont intend to go through it together. it only makes it worse to go through it separately.
Jan 6, 2019 7:24 AM
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Another good episode. Some of the romance bits were boring but most of the plot was really neat, and the emotion hit in all the right places when needed. Chibi-Usa being Mamoru's girlfriend is kinda disturbing though, given the age difference...
Jun 19, 2020 2:44 AM

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BRUHHHHHHHHHHHH

USAGI GET A BETTER MAN YOU DONT NEED HIM

Anyway rewatching this series after 10 years later, I really have to both like and hate Mamoru.
Sep 14, 2021 6:04 AM

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I like how the show clearly doesnt take itself serious at times, "must put on make-up" mid fight! lmao
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Feb 19, 2022 4:03 AM

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I really hate ChibiUsa, jesus christ, why can't she just tell the main cast her motivation already?
Also, Mamoru's also an asshole in this episode, why won't people just tell Usagi what's going on? I know that would get rid of a lot of the drama, but it wouldn't be as infuriating as this bullshit

Jan 23, 2023 11:12 PM

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damn this brats actually pretty cute huh lol




Might become my fav sailor moon waifu?

Apr 7, 12:16 AM

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This is soooo saddddd I don't like seeing usagi sad it makes me cry ToT
Apr 27, 2:12 AM

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this episode was very sad, mamoru i don't think this is the right way to protect usagi from the vision you had.
poor usagi.
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