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Jun 27, 2007 8:22 AM
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Holy shit. That was heavy. I hope Clare finds a way to regenerate her arm, I'd find it really odd if not.

Anyway, even though we were spoiled on the IRC channel by some random user just before everyone finished his download, it was still a great episode, made me go o.O a lot though. Irene is pretty damn strong, and that bit with Ophelia and the glimpse of a split character was great.

Looking forward to more! Can't wait until Clare shows the results of her training.

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Jun 27, 2007 8:28 AM
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Hehe...Clare's arm huh? You will be surprised, I'm sure...
Jun 27, 2007 8:42 AM
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Great stuff yea, was wondering which one Irene was for a sec and then i remembered when i watched it =)

Ophelia is obviously crazy =P and now awakened one
Jun 27, 2007 8:53 AM
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Have been waiting for someone to train Clare, but I was quite surprised when it was Irene. Can't wait to see the results of her training :)
Jun 27, 2007 9:01 AM
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Hehe...Clare's arm huh? You will be surprised, I'm sure...


True, true.

Good episode as always, awakened Ophelia ftw.
Jun 27, 2007 9:15 AM
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You guys are just making me curious about Clare's arm. Don't make me go read the manga, dammit! lol

Interesting that Ophelia seemed to have a split personality. Oh well. Now she only has the Awakened personality...

I wonder if any of the OP/ED songs will change next week.
Jun 27, 2007 9:25 AM
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Poor Clare losing her arm. She's got a hell of a disadvantage now so I wonder how she'll be able to compensate. I can't imagine just learning Irene's fighting techniques will be enough.

The next episode preview looked great so I can't wait to see what happens in the next fight.

...even a saint needs a soldier to do the dirty work.
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Lets see... I already knew Clare was going to lose her arm and her other hand. And I already knew Irene was alive and I already knew Ophelia was going to awaken.... yay for manga readers spoiling me!

Baman said:
Hehe...Clare's arm huh? You will be surprised, I'm sure...
And yeah, I know about that too (though I'm not sure of the facts 100%). Awesome... And I'll apreciate if the comments stop there. Before someone gets carried away and spoils a bit more... >_<

Apart from all that it was a great ep.
I was pretty sure someone was gonna have to train Clare in some way, coz she can't move foward with willpower only. At first it crossed my mind Miria would do it, but Irene is way more fitting. And I always like her ^^.
I'm looking foward to see Clare's training now, and the new Claymores that appear in the next ep. Thought they prolly wont last long since they seem to be going against Ophelia. (She had a nice nick name to)
Jun 27, 2007 12:19 PM
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Great episode. Ophelia is nothing! Definitely and interesting character and you catch of the glimpse of the inner tumoil that she's suppressed up to this point. Poor girl. I've always been somewhat of a fan of Irene and to see her back was a pleasant surprise.

Anyway, I won't spoil too much here... but did any pay attention to the preview? A new Claymore and the last keyframe of the preview. I'm surprised no one has noticed or commented.

I will say no more.
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Anyway, I won't spoil too much here... but did any pay attention to the preview? A new Claymore and the last keyframe of the preview. I'm surprised no one has noticed or commented.


Oh I noticed but I'm horrible with all their names. That's why I said I can't wait for the next fight ^^

...even a saint needs a soldier to do the dirty work.
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Um, yeah...I added the new one to the DB scince we got a picture and all...Go take a look if you want to know...Relativley spoiler free as well, I always try not to write too specific things if it can be avoided...
She is quite badass...too bad we don't get to see more of her...till now that is...
Jun 27, 2007 12:56 PM

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This episode was awesome. The animation was great and well Ophelia gets owned. It's about time someone acutally beats her.

Though Clare is now an unpredictable Claymore because of everything that happens to her and this was bound to happen to Ophelia she's crazy

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Jun 27, 2007 8:59 PM

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Number 5 going to kill Number 4? ~.~

An awakened being can regenerate his arms back, maybe the same could be done on Clare. =S
Jun 28, 2007 1:24 AM

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Damn, Ophelia better not stay just a zomgyoumusthateher!character. That'd suck badly.


Yay, I was wrong :D Split personalities going Awakened One ftw

Please let Clare get a mechanical arm with nifty gadgets despite the wrong timeperiod :D:D:D
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Meli said:
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Damn, Ophelia better not stay just a zomgyoumusthateher!character. That'd suck badly.


Yay, I was wrong :D Split personalities going Awakened One ftw

Please let Clare get a mechanical arm with nifty gadgets despite the wrong timeperiod :D:D:D


LOL. Not quite, but let's just say you won't be too disappointed.
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Instead of saying 'oh you'll be surprised' and 'I bet you can't imagine this' I'd prefer if you guys just said nothing at all about it, but maybe that's just me.

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mild_even said:

Anyway, I won't spoil too much here... but did any pay attention to the preview? A new Claymore and the last keyframe of the preview. I'm surprised no one has noticed or commented.
heh, actually I did bring that up ^^
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(...) and the new Claymores that appear in the next ep. Thought they prolly wont last long since they seem to be going against Ophelia(...)
Though I think I was wrong... seems it's not Claymores but only a Claymore. (and I have a feeling I know who that is). The second one seemed like Clare with her back turned... so prolly she will fight Ophelia in the next ep...? after the training that is...
I don't really wanna know 'till episode 14 is out ^^

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Instead of saying 'oh you'll be surprised' and 'I bet you can't imagine this' I'd prefer if you guys just said nothing at all about it, but maybe that's just me.
/Seconded!
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Kayrhandros said:

cyruz said:
Instead of saying 'oh you'll be surprised' and 'I bet you can't imagine this' I'd prefer if you guys just said nothing at all about it, but maybe that's just me.
/Seconded!
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cyruz said:
Instead of saying 'oh you'll be surprised' and 'I bet you can't imagine this' I'd prefer if you guys just said nothing at all about it, but maybe that's just me.
/Seconded!
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Agreed...

...but holy hell what an episode!! I'm anxious, now, to see what's going to happen... if... and how... Clare gets her arm back... awesome episode
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But it's fun! D:
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cyruz said:
Instead of saying 'oh you'll be surprised' and 'I bet you can't imagine this' I'd prefer if you guys just said nothing at all about it, but maybe that's just me.
I agree. This is episode discussion and I don't want to know what happens or that something surprising happens...
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Heh, I'm glad I'm not the only one with that opinion.

I'd say if you want to discuss it further, get your own (manga) topic. :D

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Jun 28, 2007 9:44 AM

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I'm disappointed that the seiyuu for Ophelia didn't make her voice shaky whenever the Rippling Sword was used. That would have been hilarious.

It still bothers me that Ophelia was able to figure out that Clare set up her escape. Still... unless a head goes flying off, it isn't necessarily over.

And Ophelia turning into an Awakened Being. In a way, that's cool because she's deserving of the irony. However, I would have loved to see her will completely broken by Clare when her Rippling Sword is defeated by the Flash Sword.

Funny how both Clare and Ophelia had someone precious taken away from them by the one horned monster... Priscilla. While Clare closed her heart in pursuit of vengeance, Ophelia shut the door to the past. One has attained great power while the other has a stronger will.

It was really intriguing when Ophelia explained how Claymores become offensive and defensive types. Clare's flashback during the explanation answered the question of what type she is.

The "crossroads" of those "qualified to fight" is a very important discussion as it's in the title of the next episode! I love this dialog between Clare and Irene.

Ever since her first hunt of an Awakened Being, I've notice Clare's emotions surfacing a little more. Raki, Miria, Helen, and Deneve seemingly have had a profound effect on her.

Here's some questions for thought:
With Irene explaining that the Flash Sword is basically awakening in one arm, would Ophelia hunted her down because of her smell? Ophelia seems to have acute sense when it comes to Awakened Beings. Strangely enough, she didn't recognize Irene's scent. Was it because Irene's body didn't (half) awaken and revert to its original form like Miria, Clare, Helen and Deneve?
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mild_even said:

And Ophelia turning into an Awakened Being. In a way, that's cool because she's deserving of the irony.


Absolutley, the irony in her fate is what makes me like her so much more than the general badgirl...

mild_even said:

Here's some questions for thought:
With Irene explaining that the Flash Sword is basically awakening in one arm, would Ophelia hunted her down because of her smell? Ophelia seems to have acute sense when it comes to Awakened Beings. Strangely enough, she didn't recognize Irene's scent. Was it because Irene's body didn't (half) awaken and revert to its original form like Miria, Clare, Helen and Deneve?


That may be so...And Irene also exceled at making her youki undetectable, so perhaps that has something to do with it as well...
Jun 28, 2007 10:12 AM

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Baman said:
That may be so...And Irene also exceled at making her youki undetectable, so perhaps that has something to do with it as well...

Heh... but not enough to fool Teresa. Gosh... Teresa's death still hurts.
Jun 28, 2007 11:32 AM

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cyruz said:
Instead of saying 'oh you'll be surprised' and 'I bet you can't imagine this' I'd prefer if you guys just said nothing at all about it, but maybe that's just me.


Agreed. Hell, I've read the manga, and even I think that was a little rude. Let's not ruin it for people who wanna watch it spoiler free, k?

They sorta sped through things in this episode, I felt like it was longer in the manga o.o Still it was so thrilling even though I knew what was gonna happen. Tension! I love Irene though, it was so awesome seeing her again. Her voice actress is so badass sounding. Completely offhandedly just owns the crap out of Ophelia. So cool. ^.^ *fangirl squee*
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I was really surprised (and glad) when Irene came back, in my memory she got stabbed in the head like everyone else, so I couldn't work out why she was still alive. As for the flash sword, she said you effectively awaken one arm, which I took to mean that its a similar process, but that the flashsword is a controlled process unlike awakening which is uncontrolled.

Its hard to explain, its kind of like a gun, the energy is all concentrated briefly to propel the bullet, but if the energy was to be released everywhere then that would be bad. A poor analogy but I'm just finding it hard to explain what I think.

Do you guys mind speculation on the next episode, or future episodes?
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Do you guys mind speculation on the next episode, or future episodes?


I don't mind, but to be safe put spoiler tags around those comments. And speculation is much better than what actually happens... that can saved for the manga section as everyone else has been saying.
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I've been guilty of that... I will stop.
Jun 29, 2007 5:14 AM

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speculations are always fine, mangareaders giving hints is not

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awakened Ophelia ftw.
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Awesome episode. While it was one-sided, the fight scenes were cool. I just loved how Irene kicked Ophelia's ass. It was also great to see Clare learning a new move. Now she can have both Teresa's yoki reading ability along with Irene's flash sword. I cant wait till the next episode.
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Being 1/4th teresa is a greater advantage than even being HALF or even FULL YOMI! For now within her lives the potential to be the greatest claymore to ever exisT!

Furthermore, I would rather lose one arm, and from that ordeal gain the flash sword which is the same as having a thousand arms. Clare is slowly and surely becoming broken and a true heir to Teresa's unfathomable greatness.

This is indeed the birth of

FLASH SWORD CLARE OF THE COLD GRIMMACE!

"Genius is not thinking outside the box. It's realizing that their is no box and no end to human potential. More importantly, genius is OWNAGE!" - BOOK OF OWNAGE - OWNed Chapter - OWNed verse.
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I haven't thought that Irene would come back!!! :O
Jan 23, 2008 12:07 PM

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this was such a good episode !
now, with clare having one arm,.. wow O_O
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That episode was awesome. You'd have thought Irene died.

Still Ophelia's awakening was unexpected.
Sep 28, 2008 12:22 PM

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Irene ^____^ welcome back,
that was awesome ep!!!
i felt sorry for Clare that she lost her arm...
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wow, this ep was a whole lot of whoop @$$! Arms and hands coming off, blood everywhere. Random ppl coming out of the woods to pwn unsuspecting passerby. I loved it. This series keeps it fast and intense.

I was sure Irene was dead, but when I saw the flash sword I didn't even need to see her face.
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so clare loses an arm but is luckily saved and is training to get stronger, while ophelia just awakened and is out to kill!
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YAY! Irene is still alive. That's good. I liked her, she was a good claymore.

And what the fuck? All the top ranked claymores are turning into Awakened Beings.

And what ever happened to just turning into yoma? It's like now, all there is are awakened beings and yoma don't even exsist. Feels that way..
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cyruz said:
Instead of saying 'oh you'll be surprised' and 'I bet you can't imagine this' I'd prefer if you guys just said nothing at all about it, but maybe that's just me.
I agree. This is episode discussion and I don't want to know what happens or that something surprising happens...


well, you really shouldn't look at this episode discussion if you haven't yet seen the episode. It's obvious that you should post an entry and read the others ONCE you have completed the episode.

I say, This episode discussion is so that you can discuss the episode and what it is about, isn't that a bit self explanatory? And if you don't want to know what happens. Then don't look at this forum YET.
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great episode as alwayes and it get better
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wow, this ep was a whole lot of whoop @$$! Arms and hands coming off, blood everywhere. Random ppl coming out of the woods to pwn unsuspecting passerby. I loved it. This series keeps it fast and intense.

I was sure Irene was dead, but when I saw the flash sword I didn't even need to see her face.


It's especially interesting when it's the main characters arm and hand coming off.
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actually, i'd like to see ophelia die soon. when she cuted clare's arm, i was so upset!!
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Ophelia's split personality makes me think this means a manga read. Seems like they ran out of time to put it on the anime and they decided to bring it up until the last minute, right before her youma side finally overcomes her.
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i am done reading most of the messages ITT. there seems to be a lot of foreshadowing and hint-dropping, even if unintentional. but meh, i'm pretty late to this series anyway.

clare's arm, one can only hope, will somehow return. and ophelia now being awakened presents even more of a problem for me, since i hated her to begin with. i can't ever help but to commiserate with the protagonist to the point where all of the antagonist awesomeness is killed for me. FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUU. but no matter, amazing episode, can't wait for the next one which instead of next week... i will watch......... now. so i do have the marathon advantage. w00t for that.
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i really really hope she gets her arm back... really i do lol
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awesome episode... I LOVED seeing Ophelia get OWNED.
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