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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Tenma really has to lose that bad habbit of not shooting to kill, or else one day he might regret it =P Also, it seems that Johan is avenging is mother. Either that, or he has some twisted plan for Bonaparta. |
| The story of how their mother suffered was very sad |
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| good story. thats sad that she crawled through a vent pregnant and came back. i wonder in the next episode if they explain why there are two girls. crossdressing johan is really creepy... |
| Tenma needs to die. Srsly getting tired of all these pacifist main characters in my action thriller anime. |
  "What happens when we die?" I know that the ones who love us will miss us. |
| I guess that explains why no body knew that there were twins living with the single mother. What is going to happen from here on out, I wonder? |
| Well my question from last time was answered: the Red Rose Mansion and Bonaparta's poisoning of Johan's mind came before Kinderheim 511...and Johan already has his mother's will for revenge in him. No wonder he's like he is. |
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Ranivus said: Tenma needs to die. Srsly getting tired of all these pacifist main characters in my action thriller anime. Action thriller? Have you been... watching this show? It has parts like that, but that is by and large not an accurate way to describe the whole show. |
| Every time I see an English-speaker on the Internet add an honorific to someone's name, I die a little bit inside. Every time I see, "^_^," my will to carry on crumbles that much more. |
| Was it me or the animation quality dropped quite a bit on this episode? |
| 90% of Anime is shit, but then, 90% of everything is shit. |
| The birth of Mamiko Noto was quite sad... wait she didn't turn into a goddess until after she shot Johann... |
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| two same girls @ the preview?? O_o |
kurotera said: Was it me or the animation quality dropped quite a bit on this episode? It was you |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| wow so thats how it all happened with there mom and dad, ah what a cliff hanger episode |
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| So they were created. o_o |
Life is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated.~ |
| aw gawd this is an awsome anime! i love urasawa!.......btw what ever hapended to roberto? |
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| Wooo getting tense ^^ not many eps left :( |
JogaBonito said: So we finally get to see the mother and fathers tragic story... I did also get the sense that Johan is trying to avenge his mother for what she was put through. Idk if it was just me but I kind of feel as if Johan knew that Tenma was one of the best neuro surgeons around and planned getting shot but for what... What was the purpose of him having his sister shoot him? Also the part where we see the two older people being killed by Johan after being fed was disturbing. theres no way johann expected to live after being shot in the head.. he must have been ready to die. i find that strange too |
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| The poor, innocent old couple. |
| sad story |
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| Their origin is indeed very sad. And what a cliffhanger. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| It's a sad story but still doesn't justify Johan butchering all of these couples... I get the feeling however that the people he kills for the most part are people somehow connected to Franz Bonoparta. I feel like now that the two twins are together they both will begin causing mass mayhem in order to kill Franz... Though it really doesn't matter at this point since the dude is probably only a few years from death anyways. |
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Avato-chan said: aw gawd this is an awsome anime! i love urasawa!.......btw what ever hapended to roberto? Yeah, whatever did happen to him? Guess he'll pop up soon enough. |
| Dear God, did Johan really have to kill that first couple too? I'm completely lost as to what his reasoning is anymore. I still feel like he's trying to mold Nina into something. Maybe her shooting him that first time was supposed to make her snap but because he didn't actually die he had to start over from square one. And I'm starting to think Tenma is never going to kill anyone. In a way, I don't really want him to ever cross that threshold to be a killer, but it's really annoying how many assholes would have been taken care of by now if he'd just been able to pull the trigger properly. Double tap, man! |
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| Awesome cliffhanger. About Episode: So Peter told story about that it was basically missions designed for the organization and one of the mission was get to those twins born. But so many parents were attending it. Also mother story seemed really sad one. I mean she was living nice life until secret police caught them with that guy. They tried to escape to border but got caught and after that Bonaparte was watching kids. Tenma and Eva called ambulance to Shiechwild. And he even told with his last powers where Johan was. Eva tried to also found out but Eva's part in this is over I believe. And we even saw Bonaparte drawing these children but what was his motive for all of this conquering world or something else. So Anna and Johan finally meet two twins who has been involved with Franz Bonaparte. And Johan didn't seems to know what the end means and now Nina is explaining really ghost story for him. 5/5 |
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| Tenma with his anti-killing attitude is on my nerves. |
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| "You'll die, and I'll die, too." ... Anna? Please don't do it... I don't want you to die, Anna... Also, what happened to Lunge? He showed up at the puppet guy's house more than 10 episodes ago, and now we're approaching the last few episodes and we haven't heard a word about him. I guess that means we can expect to see him soon? |
LarasoApr 14, 2013 10:11 AM
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| They were crossdressing, shifting, faking each other? Next ep, we should finally get some answers! |
Laraso said: "You'll die, and I'll die, too." I am thinking about idea there is only one child and they are split personalities.. but many people saw them together, there were photos of both, right? |
| Finally we get some answers... and confrontations...and oh man... just what exactly can I say, or even expect from here on out? Just what kind of climax is Monster going to have! (Gulp) 5/5 |
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| wow we definitely learned alot!! so Johan and Nina's parents were involved in an experiment just as Johan had experienced one as well. shame they didn't tell their names. i actually thought Franz Bonaparta was the father and used his son for his experiments. though if this was an experiment and they have tons of couples why the hell did they settle with the parents of Nina and Johan? couldn't they pick another couple? and how the hell were they able to monitor all couples?? so that's why Nina's mother look angry at the pictures. i wonder if she had taught her children the true meaning of fear? i can't believed she almost managed to escape away from prison while in labor! that takes guts and wills as hell!!! and yay i knew Houka Kuwashima is the voice actor :D funny how both her and Mamiko Noto are the perfect goddess voice of the world along with Rie Tanaka!! Nina's mother badly wanted to at least give her sons & daughters a name. i can't believed Tenma didn't finished the job. he just can't kill someone huh? it pisses me sometimes when someone is willing to help Tenma yet he keep pushing them back and trying to fix things on his own. they're are already on your side, why not get some extra help either way!?! man Johan was already a Monster since child. killing those couples just like that. so the ending showed us that originally the twins were girls? i have a feeling Johan is indeed Franz Bonaparta's son. now we will see how this rolls out!!! also where the hell is Lunge and others!!!! can't wait!!! |
| -As I'm watching- Woah, genetic engineering? Oh this will be good! Their mom looks just like Nina. Okay so they were born, that's a relief. Poor Nina, everyone that came in contact with them Johan killed. WHAT? What is it? What's the end? What's so horrible and terrifying and ahhhhh! So many questions. I must know! |
| Dem old people! God damn! |
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| The finale is approaching, and I can't wait. I'm hoping the show manages to wrap up its complex plot in a satisfying way. |
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| The story of Johan's and Anna's parents was sad. |
| Armageddon was yesterday, today we have a problem. |
| Why da fuq did Johan kill those old people in the field?This was an ineteresting episode let's see what the next has to bring. |
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| Well this episode makes it look like Johan has some kind of personal vendetta against the people that killed their parents and started this whole eugenics conspiracy, but this still doesn't explain why he goes around butchering seemingly innocent people; other than he did it for the lulz |
Avato-chan said: aw gawd this is an awsome anime! i love urasawa!.......btw what ever hapended to roberto? My thought exactly. Not like I missed him or anything :p |
| The end is nearing... Only 8 episodes left... 9/10 for this episode |
| There is so much mystery in this series. it is never ending. |
| Wow. That mother, crawled through a vent when she was in labor, and also went over a fence in the process, only to be brought back. That's really sad. And finally Johan, Anna and Tenma are moving towards the same area. Looks like it's finally reaching its climax. |
"You either die an Ashita no Joe, or you live long enough to see yourself become a Naruto."  |
| Anna's traumatized voice is annoying as f*ck. PLEASE. Shut up already. Thank you very much. Other than that, Tenma, better find Johan quick and end it already. Anna ur not cute nor likable anymore. I now believe in Dieter as the most "pure" person in this show. |
| "No one knows what the future holds. That's why its potential is infinite.” - Okabe Rintarou "El Psy Congroo." Kirino Kyousake Picture  |
| Good episode. Johan's a piece of work. Favourite scene was Tenma/Eva/Cristof in the car. Finally there was no ill boding between Tenma and Eva. Cristof may be annoying, but he is definitely able to change... the last couple of lines were pretty nice, him telling Eva Tenma's words, and also admitting that he didn't know what was going on when Eva broke down. Last part tho... ehh... we've seen Nina do try to extract the truth, and she can't, same ole, same ole beating about the bush. Most likely she's going to break down, oh well. At least Tenma's on his way. Monster's cliffhangers always make me watch the next ep -.- onwards! |
| Intriguing as always. 5/5 |
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| The stuff with the mother was great to see. Reunion is pretty hype. |
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| The story of their parents was too sad. So,they meet again, I wonder what is she going to say. |
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