| I wanted to start this series and looked up on Google on the series order. But I am not sure what should I watch first. Fate stay night or fate zero. So can someone tell me what should I watch first for better understanding of the series and to have maximum fun watching it. |
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| Fate/Stay Night is a good point if you don't care about animation, fights etc. Fate/Zero is extremely hard to understand without watching the others first, but it's the darkest Fate anime, being also my favorite. If you like those kind of psychological thrillers, it's the best for you to start. Fate/Stay Night Unlimited Bladeworks is great if you like something more close to a shounen with amazing animation. It has a weaker plot together unlike Fate/Zero though, but it's your choice. Choose one of the three to start, and then watch the other 2, but Fate/Stay Night can be skippable depending on your choice. Fate/Stay Night Heaven's Feel (a triology of movies) MUST be watched after Unlimited Bladeworks, you can start it before Fate/Zero or Fate/Stay Night, though. Again, it depends on how you're gonna start watching and the order you'll follow. After that, just watch whatever spin off you'd enjoy, but I really recommend Fate/Apocrypha, Fate/Strange Fake, Today's Menu for the Emiya Family, Carnival Phantasm and Fate/Grand Order. |
MKIkawaMay 4, 10:58 PM
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Shadow__-Monarch said: Fate stay night or fate zero. So can someone tell me what should I watch first for better understanding of the series and to have maximum fun watching it. Fate/Zero was created with the idea that the viewer/reader knew everything about Fate/Stay Night beforehand. That's why it contains a lot of spoilers, and talk about them as if nothing, so you absolutely have to experience it in last. Zero is generally considerd to be the best story tho, and going in blindly adds a Thriller feels to it, so your search of fun may be tempted by it... (especially as the first Stay Night series is quite old and not very good compared to the rest.) Anyway, if you want the full order : |
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saketsahu said: why every now and then people start a new thread Because what they have read before is utterly confusing, and they somehow expect it to be different when it's them who asks the question. Googling the order also leads to bullshit sites explaining nearly nothing, while also being wrong on top of that. |
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saketsahu said:
why every now and then people start a new thread
why every now and then people start a new thread
Because what they have read before is utterly confusing, and they somehow expect it to be different when it's them who asks the question. Googling the order also leads to bullshit sites explaining nearly nothing, while also being wrong on top of that.
| @Alexioos95 Or maybe they are too lazy to check the previous threads asking the same thing. |
JoeChip said: Or maybe they are too lazy to check the previous threads asking the same thing. Yeah, that too. But to be fair, even in those threads, every user reply with a different order than the one of the previous post, and little to none of them has any kind of explanation... |
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| I would advise starting with a visual novel (Fate Stay/Night), because its the original and the plot, characters and the author’s idea are better revealed there, then watch Fate Zero, Unlimited Blade Works (by Ufotable) and Fate Heaven Feel trilogy. Other works, are optional imo, including Ataraxia. |
akatsukinoluna said: that UBW leaves out (bc it assumes you've already watched Zero). That's actually not the reason. The lore and real mechanics of the Holy Grail War were not hidden in the UBW Route because they expected you to have watched Zero beforehand, but because it's part of the mystery and confusion intended. In case you are not aware, Zero was written 2 whole years after the release of the Fate/Stay Night Visual Novel, which contained the 3 Routes (Fate, UBW & HF). UBW also was adapted into a Movie by Deen before Ufotable even started to work on the adaptation of Zero, and it's not different in that aspect. The reality of the Holy Grail War is gradually explained through the second half of the Fate and UBW Route, and is a central point of HF. All Zero does, is presenting these infos directly, without covering them under the fog of mystery (which makes them direct spoilers). Edit : And to add one more thing; in the end, of the Holy Grail War is only the pretext of the story. The focus is not on the war itself, but on the characters taking part in that war. That's one of the critic Stay Night often got back then, and which is why Zero was praised for actually using the setting literally. akatsukinoluna said: Also there's various events in UBW that just don't have much meaning, if you haven't seen Zero. Aside of the cameo of the professor, there is none. All the events are either callbacks to the Fate Route (which you are supposed to have already completed), related to the story of UBW, or are hints for HF (which you are supposed to experience right after). |
Alexioos95May 6, 11:59 AM
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| Watch fate zero first, everybody else is sabotaging you I wish I had watched zero first |
caspiano said: Watch fate zero first, everybody else is sabotaging you The sabotaging is actually done by those recommending Zero first. It goes against what the 2 Authors intended, and completely ruin all the slow-burn mystery, which is the main aspect of the Fate/Stay Night trilogy of story. MythL1ght said: 1. Fate/stay night (Main route) 2. Fate/Zero (Prequel, plays 10 years earlier to Fate/stay night) 3. Fate/stay night Unlimited Blade Works Prologue 4. Fate/stay night Unlimited Blade Works 5. Fate/stay night Heaven‘s Feel I, II and III Why watch Zero in-between the Routes ? It doesn't makes much sense, be it about the flow of the overall story, or the spoilers. |
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Watch fate zero first, everybody else is sabotaging you I wish I had watched zero first
@caspiano I agree. Fate fans really like to exaggerate how complicated the watch order is. There's no perfect starting point for anime onlies. Just watch Fate/Zero; it's a good introduction to newbies since OP is asking for better understanding to enjoy Fate, and Zero is a prequel to the main core of the series.  |
KushnaMay 7, 6:01 PM
akatsukinoluna said: and had no interest in the DEEN adaptations. Well, that's the problem. If you remove the (adaptation of the) starting point of the whole franchise, then there obviously will be things that will have way lower impact and/or importance in the continuations; absolutely nothing surprising. The list you made under that spoiler button can be narrowed to only 2 elements once we add the context of the Fate Route, and they are revealed only later, in HF. (To be fair, the Movies skipped a lot of content, so i'll add : "or even later in the Animes; in Zero".) MythL1ght said: Well I did it and I enjoyed it. It doesn‘t matter if you watch Fate/Zero before or after Fate/stay night mate. It‘s not that deep. Sure; there is a lot to enjoy in the Fate Series, no matter the order you watch/read it. When to experience Zero does matter tho, and it is actually pretty deep, as it touch how to do storytelling. The thing that will irks most people is the spoilers. Zero spoils the 2006 Anime and the Heaven's Feel Movies, and touch a few points of UBW, but you learn of the main lines of Zero, including its end, through the 2006 Anime and UBW. That's all these spoilers shenanigans that keep feeding the debates on the order, even 2+ decades after the original release of the Visual Novel. With your order, you took double punishment. You knew the key revelations of HF AND Zero. That's how the majority of Anime-onlies experienced it too, as that's how they were aired, but now that the series is complete, there really is no need to put Zero in the middle (and that's without talking about the gradual crescendo of the development of the themes and tone that was originally intended). |
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