Sword Art Online (light novel)
| Hello~ I am aware that SAO got so many criticism either from genuine critics or from the bandwagon sheep who thought it was cool to hate on SAO especially several years ago but nevertheless I still enjoy watching it despite I think SAO could be much better . I really hope SAO Progressive could really redeem the Aincrad Arc which was a wasted potential in SAO 2012 anime, and so far the SAO Progressive so enjoyable so I have high hopes :)  Anyway, I like SAO's visual and I enjoy Aincrad Arc and GGO the most ^.^ What about you? |
 (っ◔◡◔)っ 𝓘 𝔀𝓲𝓼𝓱 𝔂𝓸𝓾 𝓪𝓵𝓵 𝓱𝓪𝓿𝓮 𝓪 𝔀𝓸𝓷𝓭𝓮𝓻𝓯𝓾𝓵 𝓭𝓪𝔂 ♥ |
| SAO looks and sounds nice and I even enjoy the the story sometimes. The issue is that whenever I start liking it something incredibly stupid happens that brings it down and that pisses me off because it could be a lot better. |
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| I've only seen the first season, and I hated it the whole way through. Otaku pandering wish-fulfillment cringe at its worst. |
| Controversial opinions |
Rinrinka said: S1: noOverall do you enjoy watching SAO? S2: no Alicization: yes Rinrinka said: S1: opening 1What do you like about it? S2: nothing Alicization: story, soundtrack, Alice & Quinella |
This dance is the pinnacle of human achievement. |
| I feel like the whole "trapped in an MMO" -thing is a pretty cheesy concept. Combine that with the overpowered, edgy Mc and his steadily growing Harem of Girls that admire his Teenage-Coolness and all I can say is: This is not for me. But I can see why young boys would really, really dig it. |
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Rinrinka said: Hello~ I am aware that SAO got so many criticism either from genuine critics or from the bandwagon sheep who thought it was cool to hate on SAO especially several years ago but nevertheless I still enjoy watching it despite I think SAO could be much better . I really hope SAO Progressive could really redeem the Aincrad Arc which was a wasted potential in SAO 2012 anime, and so far the SAO Progressive so enjoyable so I have high hopes :) Anyway, I like SAO's visual and I enjoy Aincrad Arc and GGO the most ^.^ What about you? Finally, someone else has also revealed the obvious truth, that’s refreshing to see. SAO (the entire series) is an enjoyable anime to watch from beginning to end. Naturally, I respect honest criticism, but pay no attention to the mindless gullible sheep haters. |
ejleonApr 15, 7:43 AM
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series and judge each based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.  |
| Back when season 1 came out, I watched it during the air time, it was good damn fun all things considered, but it wasn't good. But, all of us had fun nonetheless. |
| Just an avid anime watcher of 18 years, not much else I could say about myself (that I don't want to reveal, of course, just ask if you wanna know more!) "So...look up, face forward, toward your chosen horizon and just...walk on." - Noah, Xenoblade Chronicles 3 |
Rinrinka said: Hello~ I am aware that SAO got so many criticism either from genuine critics or from the bandwagon sheep who thought it was cool to hate on SAO especially several years ago but nevertheless I still enjoy watching it despite I think SAO could be much better . I really hope SAO Progressive could really redeem the Aincrad Arc which was a wasted potential in SAO 2012 anime, and so far the SAO Progressive so enjoyable so I have high hopes :) Anyway, I like SAO's visual and I enjoy Aincrad Arc and GGO the most ^.^ What about you? I love it very Much. Animation , Soundtracks, Sound effects,Story and Characters design. I always wished to see this idea made "Black Dressed Swordman fighting with 2 swords and one of them Black and fighting alongside a powerfull White dressed Long hair girl." Also one thing about the Rape scenes my opinion is that they were needed only because the fact that SAO took the idea that Villains have to be Hated. Let's face it over 60% or more when u ask someone what's their favorite character from an anime they'll say a villain. |
| I’d be lying if I said that I wasn’t personally biased because SAO was one of my first anime outside of my childhood. Is it groundbreaking and absolutely fantastic? Ehhh… Is it fun? Yeah, I had a good time watching SAO even if it’s kind of a meh show from a narrative perspective. |
  "You win this round. You doggies." |
| Alicization was actually pretty decent, I enjoyed it. Everything else, not so much. |
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Rinrinka said: Hello~ I am aware that SAO got so many criticism either from genuine critics or from the bandwagon sheep who thought it was cool to hate on SAO especially several years ago but nevertheless I still enjoy watching it despite I think SAO could be much better . I really hope SAO Progressive could really redeem the Aincrad Arc which was a wasted potential in SAO 2012 anime, and so far the SAO Progressive so enjoyable so I have high hopes :) Anyway, I like SAO's visual and I enjoy Aincrad Arc and GGO the most ^.^ What about you? I like the nostalgia I now get from it. Since I first watched it over 10 years ago. Other than that I weirdly like the art style I know it has same face syndrome but there’s something very charming about the art. It also feels very uncut and raw to me. Which can be seen as a bad thing. It also carries a novelty to it. It was the first really mainstream popular isekai. And one of the first gaming anime ever |
| When youre at that stage of new anime fan, its the second coming of christ, but after a while when you think about it or rewatch it, you realize how stupid it all is and you get annoyed by the the fact there is an alternate reality where sao couldve been a masterpiece if it was SLIGHTLY better written. i do not like anything after the midpoint of season 1, and even the first 13 episodes are bogged down by stupid writing decisions The progressive remake movies capture the sao essence and imo is the definitive way to experience sao in 2024 and beyond, Also ggo alternative anime is better than original sao change my mind |
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Reply to official_brown
Merve2Love said:
I feel like the whole "trapped in an MMO" -thing is a pretty cheesy concept.
Combine that with the overpowered, edgy Mc and his steadily growing Harem of Girls that admire his Teenage-Coolness and all I can say is: This is not for me. But I can see why young boys would really, really dig it.
I feel like the whole "trapped in an MMO" -thing is a pretty cheesy concept.
Combine that with the overpowered, edgy Mc and his steadily growing Harem of Girls that admire his Teenage-Coolness and all I can say is: This is not for me. But I can see why young boys would really, really dig it.
No hate, but like the second half of your point is legit the Persona 5 protag // which your pfp is of. So idk
| @official_brown The argument is: "You like Persona 5, so don't talk about edgy, Teenage-Mc's!" Is that it? xD Sorry, but that's just a bit ridiculous. The Persona Games are more than just the Main Character beeing a cool/rebellious Teenager^^ Play it :) You'll understand. It's not comparable. |
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Reply to official_brown
Merve2Love said:
@official_brown
The argument is: "You like Persona 5, so don't talk about edgy, Teenage-Mc's!"
Is that it? xD
Sorry, but that's just a bit ridiculous. The Persona Games are more than just the Main Character beeing a cool/rebellious Teenager^^
Play it :) You'll understand. It's not comparable.
@official_brown
The argument is: "You like Persona 5, so don't talk about edgy, Teenage-Mc's!"
Is that it? xD
Sorry, but that's just a bit ridiculous. The Persona Games are more than just the Main Character beeing a cool/rebellious Teenager^^
Play it :) You'll understand. It's not comparable.
I mean, I’ve beaten it and Royal 4 times, and also played all of the Persona games save for 1 2. Yeah, there is more to SAO than an overpowered harem MC too? You have to give both of them more props.
They are both teenage, edgy, harem, OP MCs. Which is what your entire point was about. So yes, both are completely comparable, especially the Persona 5 protag comparatively to 3 and 4 protag. It’s completely comparable by using your own comparisons.
How is “rebellious” not edgy???
| @official_brown You've beaten the game and you watched SAO. You should get the difference. SAO is, first and foremost, a powerfantasy, with a self insert MC. And while you could say the same about the Persona Games, there's so much more to them. AND, don't forget this, there's also a gameplay aspect, that makes you enjoy/consume both things in a totally different way. It's simply not comparable. You're hung up on both MC's, beeing rebellious/cool Teens. I don't dislike Teenagers beeing portrayed in fiction. They can be edgy, they can be cringey. I get it. It's fine. I just think that SAO does it in a way that isn't for me, anymore. Persona 5 gives it more depths and far more thought. You're not using my own points to argue the Topic. You're using my own points to change the subject -> You're steering it into a Persona vs SAO discussion :) So, without defending P5 anymore: SAO's MC is an edgy, stereotypical mess that isn't enjoyable for me to watch. I think you have to deal with that fact. Cause it won't change, no matter how many times you're pointing the finger at other stuff I enjoy^^ Im sorry. |
Merve2LoveApr 15, 1:52 PM
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Reply to official_brown
Merve2Love said:
@official_brown
You've beaten the game and you watched SAO. You should get the difference.
SAO is, first and foremost, a powerfantasy, with a self insert MC. And while you could say the same about the Persona Games, there's so much more to them.
AND, don't forget this, there's also a gameplay aspect, that makes you enjoy/consume both things in a totally different way. It's simply not comparable.
You're hung up on both MC's, beeing rebellious/cool Teens.
I don't dislike Teenagers beeing portrayed in fiction. They can be edgy, they can be cringey. I get it. It's fine. I just think that SAO does it in a way that isn't for me, anymore. Persona 5 gives it more depths and far more thought.
You're not using my own points to argue the Topic.
You're using my own points to change the subject -> You're steering it into a Persona vs SAO discussion :)
So, without defending P5 anymore: SAO's MC is an edgy, stereotypical mess that isn't enjoyable for me to watch.
I think you have to deal with that fact. Cause it won't change, no matter how many times you're pointing the finger at other stuff I enjoy^^
Im sorry.
@official_brown
You've beaten the game and you watched SAO. You should get the difference.
SAO is, first and foremost, a powerfantasy, with a self insert MC. And while you could say the same about the Persona Games, there's so much more to them.
AND, don't forget this, there's also a gameplay aspect, that makes you enjoy/consume both things in a totally different way. It's simply not comparable.
You're hung up on both MC's, beeing rebellious/cool Teens.
I don't dislike Teenagers beeing portrayed in fiction. They can be edgy, they can be cringey. I get it. It's fine. I just think that SAO does it in a way that isn't for me, anymore. Persona 5 gives it more depths and far more thought.
You're not using my own points to argue the Topic.
You're using my own points to change the subject -> You're steering it into a Persona vs SAO discussion :)
So, without defending P5 anymore: SAO's MC is an edgy, stereotypical mess that isn't enjoyable for me to watch.
I think you have to deal with that fact. Cause it won't change, no matter how many times you're pointing the finger at other stuff I enjoy^^
Im sorry.
Your 1st point:
I wasn’t comparing the genres, I was comparing the MCs by merely what you said. Not anything else. So comparing genres or mediums was not my point at all, nor am I going to respond because I do know the differences, but you weren’t talking about it.
2nd point:
That’s a completely valid point, I was merely asking a question, was not a jab at you or your interests.
3rd point:
I wasn’t doing a P5R vs. SAO debate. I was doing a Joker vs. Kirito just based on the words you mentioned. I had a similar conversation with a person regarding Banana Fish vs. SAO. She was harping that SAOs sexual assault scenes were bad (I agree). But I compared it to BF because that show also used it for a convenient plot device. So she was being basically 2 faced by liking it in one anime and hating it in another when they both serve the same purpose in their respective anime.
So basically, it just seemed like I hate this one thing in one anime but it’s fine in another thing.
4th point:
I think people simplify SAO too much and over explain their favorite media that is being compared. To win an argument about this people will dumb down something (Kirito) and over explain the opposing side (Joker). I think both protags are fine, but I don’t like the oversimplication of him just to prove a point. Many people do this on here, so that’s why I brought it up.
TL;DR 🧏♂️🤫
| @official_brown Well, maybe I got a bit defensive there, my bad. You said something about oversimplifying, just for the sake of winning an argument. That might happen, on here. But I wasn't doing that. I do think that SAO is a really, really simple story, with really basic writiting and characters. P5 is not. I know a hundred interesting things about Joker (partly cause I play as him....) and the world he lives in. Kirito is a storytelling device, to me. A character that I can't really get myself to perceive as believeable and fleshed out. He serves a purpose. But of course Im pretty biased when arguing about this. True.^^ That's what people do on here, tho....We have strong opinions about a lot of stuff, that we like and we're quick to disregard thoughts about the things that we don't like :P |
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| Kirito is me when I was a kiddo. |
| It's not that I dislike this genre but... to add unnecessary fan services to/in/for heroines and ultimately destroys her character and personality; their purity tarnished because of it, is the only thing I hope to not happen to them. For that sole purity is my fan service. |
Reply to BitingTiger
I do/did genuinely enjoy SAO because of its sound design, graphical design, story, interesting premise, etc. but i do agree with lots of the criticism. The thing that pains me is that the idea of SAO could be done so well if it got the same treatment as alicisation got. in my opinion Alicisation was a much better executed story.
| @BitingTiger Agreed, Alicization was making me more interested on the story and it didn't waste time like in Aincrad Arc, hopefully SAO Progressive wouldn't make the same mistake as the 2012 one :) |
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Reply to Thatboidriz
I wish I was kirito
| @Thatboidriz Why did you wish to be Kirito? As for me I wish Nervegear and normal SAO game existed ^.^ |
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Reply to Kreshre
awesome anime every season was a banger the story the art the English dub voice acting is awesome the story keeps me on the edge of my seat
| @Kreshre It kept me on the edge of my seat too in early episodes knowing they could die for real |
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Reply to mrjdko
i really enjoy the romance between asuna and kirito alone. No love triangle bullshit, no harem needed, asuna and kirito is cute enough. (They’re a top 15 couple for me)
| @mrjdko Agreed, I love how consistent Kirito is with Asuna, albeit the author seems to want to make SAO harem by adding new girls who like him every arc :D |
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Reply to nicotinaotaku
hi! sao was the first anime that i saw in my childhood-adolescense so is my safe place. I usually rewatched it and make me feel like is everything ok :')
@nicotinaotaku I see, glad rewatching SAO makes you feel good because that's what I feel too... good luck :) |
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| The main series got pretty mediocre with the fairy arc and stayed that way until Alicization. The Progressive movies are better than the main series particularly because it seems better written and it focuses more on Asuna. |
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