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Apr 17, 2008 3:51 AM
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Whoa, I wonder what made Nina almost kill that guy. I was actually starting to think that her a personality similar to Johan's was going to appear, but I'm glad she went back to normal =)
Sep 3, 2008 5:06 PM
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yeah me two,i thought the same thing
Dec 29, 2008 1:11 PM
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it would be so cool if she was the monster :D
Apr 8, 2009 3:05 AM
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Yes, yes, yes!! I'm loving this, the last part was awesome.
May 15, 2009 8:31 AM
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Poor Nina =[
Aug 14, 2009 2:03 PM
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Awesome! Nina has a monster inside her too...can't wait for the climax :D
May 30, 2010 2:21 PM
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Would it be a little to crazy to say that Mamiko Noto is the real bad guy and Johann is just trying to cover up everything that she did and appear to be the bad guy?
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Jul 21, 2010 8:13 PM
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So Nina has also monster inside her??
Aug 21, 2010 7:57 PM
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Maybe Nina is the original Johann, and Johann the original Nina. Maybe the Johann we know today was born a female and Nina a male. And Nina(Johann) was the one who killed everybody at the Red Rose Mansion. But that's just me. :))

Or maybe they're clones of each other, and not siblings. That would be the "experiment".

I don't know.
Oct 20, 2010 1:35 AM

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I have the feeling, and it seems i'm not alone, that maybe Nina is the "real" monster. I have all these thoughts in my head about what's going on, but there kind of jumbled up. Credit goes to the writing that I have to think this much.
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Nov 17, 2010 5:47 PM

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Nina made me soo happy when she tried to kill

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Feb 22, 2011 12:37 AM

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Shit, i'm starting to love that hypnotized version of Nina. Makes me think of how it would've been like if Nina had a similar personality to Johan.

Renato said:
Maybe Nina is the original Johann, and Johann the original Nina. Maybe the Johann we know today was born a female and Nina a male. And Nina(Johann) was the one who killed everybody at the Red Rose Mansion. But that's just me. :))

Or maybe they're clones of each other, and not siblings. That would be the "experiment".

I don't know.


As for this one, I can't help but have the feeling that they are the same person even though that should be rather illogical.

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May 18, 2011 7:59 AM

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I wonder what her real name is.
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May 30, 2011 1:57 PM

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Nina: Now I remember, I...
Dieter: you haven't to remember!
I: NO! I want to know! I MUST know! Damn! Complete the sentence!
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Jun 24, 2011 12:22 AM

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Damn you Dieter!!...
HawthorneKitty said:
Would it be a little to crazy to say that Mamiko Noto is the real bad guy and Johann is just trying to cover up everything that she did and appear to be the bad guy?

I'm thinking the same but then the killings when she's Nina and wasn't in those place

Also I think Johan was a creep even when he was little and dressed up as Nina
Renato said:
Maybe Nina is the original Johann, and Johann the original Nina. Maybe the Johann we know today was born a female and Nina a male. And Nina(Johann) was the one who killed everybody at the Red Rose Mansion. But that's just me. :))

Or maybe they're clones of each other, and not siblings. That would be the "experiment".

I don't know.


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Aug 6, 2011 9:46 AM

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Anitnelav said:
I wonder what her real name is.


Perhaps, Johan?
Oct 17, 2011 3:47 AM

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Wtf is she........???? :o
Mar 20, 2012 5:50 AM

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dam who is nina
Mar 20, 2012 6:22 AM

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It was interesting when she strangled the fellow.
Jun 12, 2012 4:33 AM
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I think that just like Johan, Nina has a monster inside, hers is just locked up and wasn't tampered with like Johan's was at Kinderheim 511. And maybe she killed the Liebert's, not Johan.

Of course this series is probably going to throw me a curveball and it's going to be something completely different.
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Jun 27, 2012 10:33 PM
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F....ing Dieter.............................. Too bad he didnt shut up
Sep 27, 2012 2:16 PM

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Nina is crazy as fuck! It was actually scary hearing her recall her memories just repeating okaeri over and over and over. I am gonna guess however the she might of played a roll in the killing of all those people at the red rose mansion as well.
Nov 17, 2012 6:52 PM

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Whoa... just whoa. Nina's freak outs are crazy creepy.

So along the lines of what other people have already said, perhaps Nina was the real monster all a long. She remembers what Johan went through as if she had herself, like the whole rosebush thing. Johan's always been so protective of her that perhaps that's what led him down his own monstrous path or at least made it worse.
Nov 24, 2012 8:26 PM

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x-ShoutOut-x said:
I think Nina's 'Monster of the West' is finally appearing!
Since she refused to give that guy her "name", it's kind of like the book and the West Monster, who couldn't find a name in the end. Almost like she never had a name to begin with.


Good point. Then again, who knows? They might end up throwing us another curveball.
Dec 21, 2012 6:56 AM

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WOAH! that last part really was scary.

Seems like Nina remembered all from Johan to Franz Bonaparte and those children who always came from the mansion have reading meetings there. So this Bonaparte read those books to those children.

Also Suk and Friz seems to have same kind of thoughts both of them wanting to find more about them and real suspect behind this. So Friz father was definitely in the Red Roses Mansion.

So Tenma is in Frankfurt now and Karl got message solved. Wow his really good with this kind of stuff I thought Lotte would help him.

This came really twist for me so Nina has also monster inside of her. Then again it would make sense because in the monster story they both are monsters. But the way she described Red Roses Mansion and said that she don't want to Rudy know her real name in under of that hypnotizing was really scary. So Now Nina is also in going to Frankfurt to find Tenma. But maybe she will really save Tenma if he can't resist Johan.

5/5
Jan 29, 2013 9:15 PM

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Lol, I really thought she was going to strangle him.

Feb 27, 2013 10:39 PM
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Everyone's assembling.
That strangling scene was pretty tense.
Mar 5, 2013 7:17 PM

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Joel_Shelton said:
Anitnelav said:
I wonder what her real name is.


Perhaps, Johan?


LOL!
Mar 11, 2013 12:40 PM
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damn I love this anime...
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Apr 28, 2013 5:43 PM

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Three people are after Johan.
I wonder, who will be the one to kill him.
May 8, 2013 11:06 AM

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Holy shit! What have you one to my beloved Nina! I am expecting the worst!
Aug 23, 2013 4:44 AM
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Well I'll be damned If Johann is a really good guy and that Anna is the real monster lets just see what's next enough guessing.
Nov 5, 2013 11:05 PM

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glad we have Nina and Dieter episode :)

it seems she's slowly remembering her memories. though i'm still little confuse when does this take place? because there's a lot of time skips and backtracking.

so i'm guessing when Nina and Dieter saw the burned Red Rose Mansion, it was a few weeks after being burned?

Vardemann is still helping Tenma! and wtf is with Suk. acting like he's the boss yet i remember him crying like a little bitch when he was shot on the leg.

i also noticed on one of Vardemann's witnesses. the sunglasses guy looked like the same guy Tenma saw in the early episode where he delivered a message to Tenman by Johan then shots himself in the head.

so could it be that Vardemann's father went to the mansion to save the children???

man Nina being hypnotize, silence and turning a monster!!

i have a feeling his mother's spirit resides her, and it may explain why she's having a hard time remembering her memories.

though i don't know why didn't just Nina went to Dr. Gill in the first place so they could have gotten her memory much faster.

i guess going to Prague and awakening her memories is a must.

wow she turned Sawako!!!! she really looks like Sawako from Kimi ni Todoke!!

love Mamiko Noto!!!

i wonder how will this end? looks like Nina is now determined to find both Tenma and Johan and saved both of them.

i wonder about Eva as well!!

the episode definitely felt they were rushing it, then again it's better to concentrate on the main story now!!

last 13 episodes!!
Mar 3, 2014 4:08 PM

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Nina's monster may come out? I love that last part of this episode.
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Mar 16, 2014 11:21 AM

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Ughhh Nina's voice got me the chills when she awakened the monster inside her.

Feb 5, 2015 2:37 AM

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When the Nina started strangling Gillen, I got some serious goosebumps...

That was intense holy shit...

Feb 22, 2015 3:42 PM

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So Anna or whatever her name went after Johann. We are approaching the end.
Apr 3, 2015 4:57 AM
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Nina was scary at the end when she got possessed by that monster inside of her.

Everyone going to go kill Johan, awesome stuff.
Aug 20, 2015 9:32 AM

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It keeps getting more and more intense as we approach the end.

5/5
Sep 6, 2015 10:42 PM

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Cool to see that Anna has her memories back.
Sep 16, 2015 12:34 PM

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Johan said:
You are me. I am you.[/size]
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Why am I a Berserk fan? All I ever experience is pain.

We are in the eclipse and Miura has sacrificed us
Sep 27, 2015 9:11 PM
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Crazy Nina.
Oct 29, 2015 10:39 PM

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Just what is the truth behind Anna's identity and Johan... fuck, I need to know NOW!
Jun 7, 2016 2:50 PM

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Nina was scary!
I wonder what did she remember.
Jul 17, 2016 5:12 PM

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Anna is getting crazier lol, lovely character, i want more screen time for her.
Great Episode.
Aug 5, 2016 10:17 AM

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Pretty sure at this point that Nina was Johan and the other way around. She may not be the pure Nina that we thought she was .... she is the monster inside Johan (the one that went east) ..... Let's watch the next one to see. I sense a plot twist here
Oct 24, 2016 12:44 PM

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How do some people in this thread think that Johan gonna end up being the "nice guy" when we literally saw him kill like 20 people on screen (+100 if you count the kills we didn't see), fuck with kids' mind and do all sorts of crazy shit!

I swear some people will sacrifice a whole story with something that doesn't make any sense, just for the sake of a plot twist.



p.s let's hope the writer isn't as dumb as the people on this thread, because if that "plot twist" happen, i might punch the screen.
Dec 8, 2016 8:19 AM

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I think one of the scenarios that I guessed is true. It is not a good one at all. All I can say is: poor Nina and to some extent poor Johan.
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Dec 21, 2016 8:08 AM

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This is going to be really interesting at the climax I Thought that it was the end for That Dr it seems that nina killed those guys at Red Rose Mansion
Feb 1, 2017 2:03 PM

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I really hate this whole hypnosis thing.. such a load of bullshit.
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