| https://myanimelist.net/character/34470/Kurisu_Makise Thanks to skipping a grade in America as a girl, she was envied by people around her, and ended up building a strong personality. Given the nature of the comma at the public facing bio, could this subtly imply that she was at first a boy? If not at this perhaps other SG worldlines? In a theoretical scenario, one could posit that Kurisu was born male but decided to transition to a girl during her studies in America. This could lead to the development of a strong personality as a response to societal expectations and pressures associated with gender identity.  It had to be explicitly stated that Kurisu was a particular gender at a specific stage / turning point at her life (skipping a grade). If this wasn't trivial it would have been omitted and been left unstated. If it was stated, it implies it was important for some reason and that reason could have been a complete change in identity. Why was it necessary to add the fact that she skipped a grade "as a girl" when the natural progression of the statement SHOULD have been Thanks to skipping a grade in America, she was envied by people around her, and ended up building a strong personality. instead of Thanks to skipping a grade in America as a girl, she was envied by people around her, and ended up building a strong personality. at her (actual), bio at this very site. Even flashbacks to her childhood (as a girl) at the manga could be explained because we can easily accuse Kurisu of false memories given the nature of world-line divergence. Can someone say more about their thoughts regarding this? |
FireineMar 9, 6:50 AM
| No, she is not. You are overthinking it. Since when straight women cannot have strong personalities by the way? |
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Reply to xZabuzax
Jesus fucking Christ, OP, I seriously hope you are trolling with this.
| @xZabuzax this is a serious qst. |
| That is some selective bias, the way you have of reading that coma. If anything, it was a case of engurish. The correct way of interpreting that oration is: "it was weird for a girl to skip a grade, which is why boys envied her for and were skeptical of her intellectual capacity, so she developed a strong personality to deal with that". More in line with how she describes herself in the show even. And a quick trivia about that shit in japan: the pride parade had a couple of tenths of thousands attend in tokyo, a city of 13 million people, whereas pride parades in the west get millions of attendants despite being more common and frequent. Don't make japan hate the west more please. |
| Swap "as a girl" for "because she was a girl"and it becomes clearer. Those words are not there since she was anything other than a girl, but why people envy her. |
 Novels I have read/am reading pending approval: since November 10 2022 |
| I'm pretty sure you're not actually being serious, so I guess I don't have much to really say. Christina does look really nice in that Dr. Pepper drip though. |
| I’ll explain without unnecessary transphobia etc. „As a girl” part is most probably about the fact, that girls have a harder time at being recognized for their accomplishments (especially years ago), so she was envied that she managed to do it (did it probably because it was hard to overlook her skills). Most probably it has nothing to do with being trans, especially with no other stuff backing this up. |
| mlem Also read Ookami Shounen wa Kyou mo Uso wo Kasaneru (Bless Botan) |
Fireine said: https://myanimelist.net/character/34470/Kurisu_Makise Thanks to skipping a grade in America as a girl, she was envied by people around her, and ended up building a strong personality. Given the nature of the comma at the public facing bio, could this subtly imply that she was at first a boy? If not at this perhaps other SG worldlines? In a theoretical scenario, one could posit that Kurisu was born male but decided to transition to a girl during her studies in America. This could lead to the development of a strong personality as a response to societal expectations and pressures associated with gender identity. Kurisu Makise Can someone say more about their thoughts regarding this? what are you smoking... |
| I’m dying broo this gotta be bait |
DrizMar 8, 11:36 PM
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| bait used to be believable |
| No she is not, I think you may have simply misunderstood the phrasing. But man, did this post bring out all the transphobes. The block button has never looked so delightful. |
| How on earth you came to this conclusion is beyond me lol |
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| joke or not, really dumb either way. |
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Reply to LittlexLittle
Kudzio said:
I... im just speechless. Ive lost faith in humanity yet again...
I... im just speechless. Ive lost faith in humanity yet again...
you don't have to just because some random guy said that doesn't makes it true cause it isn't
| @Studiolittle https://lgbtqia-characters.fandom.com/wiki/Makise_Kurisu |
| No, this is just delusional narcissism |
| ๐ผ ๐จ๐ค๐ช๐ฃ๐ ๐จ๐ค๐ช๐ก ๐๐ฌ๐๐ก๐ก๐จ ๐ฌ๐๐ฉ๐๐๐ฃ ๐ ๐จ๐ค๐ช๐ฃ๐ ๐ข๐๐ฃ๐ ๐๐ฃ๐ ๐ ๐จ๐ค๐ช๐ฃ๐ ๐๐ค๐๐ฎ |
Reply to E_Creator
No, this is just delusional narcissism
| @E_Creator Well, Its was made clear that what Okabe really falls in love with is Kurisu's darker side as an objective scientist and her narcissism. So you're not even wrong. |
| Inferring she is trans from that bit of text is a huge stretch to make. It's obviously referring to the fact that skipping a grade for a girl is very rare, thus people envied her. Also that link you shared from the lgbtq fandom page stating she is a trans girl is false. That site is known to create false edits and be extremely liberal in their definition of queer to add lots of anime and characters to the site. If the site is stating she is trans there must be some good evidence proving she is trans from the creators or in the show itself to justify labeling her as transgender. |
WaffleMaster89Mar 9, 12:36 AM
| When a pancake lover does something: "Outrageous vicious crime" When a waffle lover does something: "That means it is not illegal" Quotes - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ld_HIM667Do&t=2822s |
| Holy moly, this thread must be a bait, lol. Kurisu is not a transgender character. The fact someone travels somewhere, or has certain hobbies, doesn't mean they are transgender, what the heck. It makes body dysphoria, a serious and real thing, ridiculed and turned into clownery. If anyone is transphobic here, then it's the original poster, I'm afraid. If this becomes a trend, then soon most of the world's population, not only anime characters, will be called out as transgender. |
AdnashMar 8, 11:11 PM
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Reply to Adnash
Holy moly, this thread must be a bait, lol. Kurisu is not a transgender character. The fact someone travels somewhere, or has certain hobbies, doesn't mean they are transgender, what the heck. It makes body dysphoria, a serious and real thing, ridiculed and turned into clownery. If anyone is transphobic here, then it's the original poster, I'm afraid.
If this becomes a trend, then soon most of the world's population, not only anime characters, will be called out as transgender.
If this becomes a trend, then soon most of the world's population, not only anime characters, will be called out as transgender.
| @Adnash I've got no problems with trans people. Just posed a serious question related to a public facing bio at this exact website. |
| I don't even follow what OP is thinking. There's absolutely no reason to think she's trans in that sentence. No way of "knowing" for sure, of course, unless there's some creator statement I'm unaware of, but I know of no reason not to assume she's cis as the vast majority are. |
... This topic is peak brainrot. |
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Reply to Fireine
@Studiolittle https://lgbtqia-characters.fandom.com/wiki/Makise_Kurisu
| @Fireine First of all, this is a fan wiki. What is written there is not any serious and official source. Secondly, in my experience, this wiki is largely queer fanon-ish, where people simply post their headcanons about characters' gender and sexuality as something objective. For example, they claim that Saiki Kusuo is a trans man because of a little joke about him changing gender in the womb because he decided he would be better born as a boy. Or indications that most of the characters from slash ships are gay or bisexual. I found it funny that such a big discussion started literally because of a comma, but if you're going to unironically refer to fan wiki headcanons, I should clarify something. UPD. https://lgbtqia-characters.fandom.com/wiki/Makise_Kurisu?action=history Oh, everything turned out to be much simpler than I thought. You simply created an article on the same day as this thread and now cite it as a source. I should have gotten used to this lol. |
RobertBobertMar 9, 3:08 AM
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Reply to logopolis
I don't even follow what OP is thinking. There's absolutely no reason to think she's trans in that sentence. No way of "knowing" for sure, of course, unless there's some creator statement I'm unaware of, but I know of no reason not to assume she's cis as the vast majority are.
| @logopolis Well, this is a typical headcanon born out of a random “interesting” assumption, which is then too pity to refuse. For example, many people are obsessed with similar speculation that Frieren is autistic or asexual, although the context and further development of the story very easily expose this. Or remember Wonder Egg Priority, where people stubbornly refused to let go of the theory that Kaoru was transgender, even when the writers almost outright said that the message of her arc was “it’s okay to be the object of affection of gay people.” People very easily get used to the idea of โโthe possibility of the things they desire, and subsequently it becomes very difficult for them to give it up so as not to be painfully disappointed. I'm telling you this as a Guel x Suletta shipper. |
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Fireine said: Thanks to skipping a grade in America as a girl, she was envied by people around her, and ended up building a strong personality. Given the nature of the comma at the public facing bio, could this subtly imply that she was at first a boy? If not at this perhaps other SG worldlines? In a theoretical scenario, one could posit that Kurisu was born male but decided to transition to a girl during her studies in America. This could lead to the development of a strong personality as a response to societal expectations and pressures associated with gender identity No, you got the wrong character, you're looking for Ruka, who is canonically trans That phrase about Kurisu simply refers to Kurisu when she was a kid (a girl), the comma means nothing exept maybe who wrote it wasn't that good at grammar, heck i don't even know where commas go 90% of the time |
DigiCatMar 9, 5:45 AM
| What debating with DigiCat is like according to APolygons2 That's why I thought a discussion would be pointless. It doesn't feel like a debate. It feels like I'm playing chess and somehow lose to an uno reverse card after loosing all my monopoly money lol |
Reply to RobertBobert
@Fireine First of all, this is a fan wiki. What is written there is not any serious and official source. Secondly, in my experience, this wiki is largely queer fanon-ish, where people simply post their headcanons about characters' gender and sexuality as something objective. For example, they claim that Saiki Kusuo is a trans man because of a little joke about him changing gender in the womb because he decided he would be better born as a boy. Or indications that most of the characters from slash ships are gay or bisexual.
I found it funny that such a big discussion started literally because of a comma, but if you're going to unironically refer to fan wiki headcanons, I should clarify something.
UPD. https://lgbtqia-characters.fandom.com/wiki/Makise_Kurisu?action=history Oh, everything turned out to be much simpler than I thought. You simply created an article on the same day as this thread and now cite it as a source. I should have gotten used to this lol.
I found it funny that such a big discussion started literally because of a comma, but if you're going to unironically refer to fan wiki headcanons, I should clarify something.
UPD. https://lgbtqia-characters.fandom.com/wiki/Makise_Kurisu?action=history Oh, everything turned out to be much simpler than I thought. You simply created an article on the same day as this thread and now cite it as a source. I should have gotten used to this lol.
| @RobertBobert Oh, everything turned out to be much simpler than I thought. You simply created an article on the same day as this thread and now cite it as a source. I should have gotten used to this lol. Can you succinctly prove that the edits you see, linked to a rando user account that quite literally anyone could have created can be uniquely mapped to my identity at this forum? it wasn't me |
| As Okabe might have said, "Those are interesting arguments for Kurisu being transgender, daga, otome da." |
Reply to Fireine
@RobertBobert
Can you succinctly prove that the edits you see, linked to a rando user account that quite literally anyone could have created can be uniquely mapped to my identity at this forum? it wasn't me
Oh, everything turned out to be much simpler than I thought. You simply created an article on the same day as this thread and now cite it as a source. I should have gotten used to this lol.
Can you succinctly prove that the edits you see, linked to a rando user account that quite literally anyone could have created can be uniquely mapped to my identity at this forum? it wasn't me
| @Fireine Am I required to provide any "evidence" if all this activity happened at the exact moment you started this thread here? As far as I can tell from the screenshot from reddit, the dialogue in question also happened today. There are too many coincidences with very good timing to assume they were random |
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Reply to mo_lave
As Okabe might have said, "Those are interesting arguments for Kurisu being transgender, daga, otome da."
| @mo_lave I thought so too, which explains why I proceeded to field these questions to the SG community. |
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