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Oct 4, 2023 2:18 AM
#2
Good question. If I remember right it wasn't fully faithful with some differences, but, yeah, who knows. Sure, it's a classic, but arguably slightly overrated. I enjoyed it for a one time watch, but don't care to watch this or the original again. If I remember correctly, I think some buildup or context, if not some scenes were a little lackluster, so I guess this new anime can maybe fix that. We'll see. On second thought: I could try this, if it's a full adaptation, since the movie rushed 6 volumes. |
waalex11Oct 4, 2023 9:19 AM
Oct 4, 2023 2:23 AM
#3
Reply to waalex11
Good question.
If I remember right it wasn't fully faithful with some differences, but, yeah, who knows.
Sure, it's a classic, but arguably slightly overrated.
I enjoyed it for a one time watch, but don't care to watch this or the original again.
If I remember correctly, I think some buildup or context, if not some scenes were a little lackluster, so I guess this new anime can maybe fix that.
We'll see.
On second thought:
I could try this, if it's a full adaptation, since the movie rushed 6 volumes.
If I remember right it wasn't fully faithful with some differences, but, yeah, who knows.
Sure, it's a classic, but arguably slightly overrated.
I enjoyed it for a one time watch, but don't care to watch this or the original again.
If I remember correctly, I think some buildup or context, if not some scenes were a little lackluster, so I guess this new anime can maybe fix that.
We'll see.
On second thought:
I could try this, if it's a full adaptation, since the movie rushed 6 volumes.
@waalex11 And above all, the manga was still in progress. |
Oct 4, 2023 2:38 AM
#4
the manga isn't even adapted, what do you mean why? |
Oct 4, 2023 2:41 AM
#5
Probably cause the entire manga was never adapted. Still, those are some pretty big shoes to fill and I can't help but think it'll always be compared to the movie. So hopefully it's going to be good. |
Oct 4, 2023 3:01 AM
#6
Okay, but if you want to adapt Akira according to the manga, use the best studio and people for it. I don't want any animation abomination like it was with Berserk. |
Oct 4, 2023 3:19 AM
#7
Because $$$ character count |
Nya~? |
Oct 4, 2023 3:41 AM
#8
As great as the film is, it's not a faithful adaptation of the source material. |
Take care of yourself |
Oct 4, 2023 3:59 AM
#9
uuugh, the mods deleted it from the database and added it again? What? |
Oct 4, 2023 4:02 AM
#10
Its gonna be one of those bad CGI adaptions of classic anime directed by run of the mill Corporate employee who just want his paycheck. Made by a studio known for bad hentai. |
"Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something." - Plato |
Oct 4, 2023 4:38 AM
#11
Oct 4, 2023 4:55 AM
#12
The fact that people don't know how different it is from the manga seems reason enough but following up such animation masterpiece is tough. |
Oct 4, 2023 4:58 AM
#13
Oct 4, 2023 4:59 AM
#14
I swear this got added to the DB like a year ago? Why was it deleted and then re-added? I read the manga, the movie only adapted half the series, and wasn't entirely faithful to what it touched. |
Oct 4, 2023 5:32 AM
#15
Reply to Dracowyn
Probably cause the entire manga was never adapted. Still, those are some pretty big shoes to fill and I can't help but think it'll always be compared to the movie. So hopefully it's going to be good.
@Dracowyn All I heard was that it was going to be a TV series. But not sure about animating everything. They might even condense the story. |
Oct 4, 2023 5:47 AM
#16
Oct 4, 2023 5:57 AM
#17
My expectations for this are subterranean. The original movie might have taken liberties with the story, but it had money, time, skill, and love, lavished on it. I really don't expect this to have anywhere near the dedication applied in bringing it to the screen. I honestly expect a cheap cash-grab trading on nostalgia. I'd love to be proved wrong though |
Oct 4, 2023 6:00 AM
#18
If this isn't hand draw and as or better than the Movie then why bother? with modern anime having the most bland average quality because of computers i seriously doubt this will be done in the same quality as the movie. |
Oct 4, 2023 6:13 AM
#19
Reply to _cjessop19_
I swear this got added to the DB like a year ago? Why was it deleted and then re-added?
I read the manga, the movie only adapted half the series, and wasn't entirely faithful to what it touched.
I read the manga, the movie only adapted half the series, and wasn't entirely faithful to what it touched.
_cjessop19_ said: I swear this got added to the DB like a year ago? Why was it deleted and then re-added? "Removed: September 15 To the Moon (37905), Deep Love (38279), Aoki Uru (20471), Top wo Nerae 3! (38273), Chimera (37437), Akira (Shin Anime) (40054), Orbital Era (40055), Onmyou Hyakki Monogatari (40652), World End Economica (40657), Cencoroll 3 (40020), Code Geass: Dakkan no Z (44304), Ane Naru Mono (41005), Yuri!!! on Ice The Movie: Ice Adolescence (35500), Shishigari (39763): no updates for the past 3-6 years. Most likely cancelled." Just mods doing their thing... |
Oct 4, 2023 6:47 AM
#20
Welcome to the era of unnecessary remakes of legendary classic timeless masterpiece anime, first Fist of the North Star and now this lol |
Oct 4, 2023 6:59 AM
#21
TheBerserker said: Welcome to the era of unnecessary remakes of legendary classic timeless masterpiece anime, first Fist of the North Star and now this lol welcome to the era of unaware anime fans. akira isnt a faithful adaptation and HnK og anine never adapted the last arc. |
Oct 4, 2023 7:18 AM
#22
it seems bizarre to talk about the "faithfulness" of the adaptation when the same person made the film and the manga. it may not a 1:1 detail for detail adaptation or a complete one, but how can a guy not be faithful to his own intentions for his own work? in all likelihood a new one directed by someone else will be a more complete adaptation that is less faithful. otomo is a mangaka who changed the way people drew manga, from paneling to character designs, but his style on the whole is pretty out of step with conventional anime and manga at this point. akira is still an iconic and respected work though so perhaps it will turn out "faithful" enough. as to why it's being made, it is likely mostly to introduce the work to younger fans who either don't know much about the old one or are turned off by all things old, while intriguing older fans; and to make money in the process of course. |
Oct 4, 2023 7:37 AM
#23
Reply to Alphchan
TheBerserker said:
Welcome to the era of unnecessary remakes of legendary classic timeless masterpiece anime, first Fist of the North Star and now this lol
Welcome to the era of unnecessary remakes of legendary classic timeless masterpiece anime, first Fist of the North Star and now this lol
welcome to the era of unaware anime fans.
akira isnt a faithful adaptation and HnK og anine never adapted the last arc.
@Alphchan Exactly. It always funny when anime fans who don't know anything about mangas -which is the source materials here- give their opinion like they know something about it. @ohohohohohoho Akira's movie just adapt 30% of the manga and change a lot of things. Plus the movie was done when the manga was still going on. So he is right, the movie is not a faithful adaptation of the manga. @toxxo We are not in a Disney movie. ;-) |
CresusJohnsonOct 4, 2023 8:00 AM
Oct 4, 2023 7:40 AM
#24
this will likely be more accurate but there's zero percent chance this looks anywhere near as good on a visual level |
Oct 4, 2023 7:50 AM
#25
The manga is better than the movie. I hope this will be a faithful adaptation. |
Oct 4, 2023 8:02 AM
#27
The animation for the movie was absolutely top tier and this will never surpass it, just like pretty much every anime hasn’t. Yet as someone who read the manga before watching the movie, I can’t help but feel the animation was the only thing it had going for it, the story was completely lackluster in comparison considering 2 hours of content vs virtually 10 volumes of manga content. If this is a full adaptation I’ll be happy, while already knowing the animation will be no where close to that masterclass. Hopefully it still looks good at least. |
Oct 4, 2023 8:05 AM
#28
waalex11 said: Good question. If I remember right it wasn't fully faithful with some differences, but, yeah, who knows. Sure, it's a classic, but arguably slightly overrated. I enjoyed it for a one time watch, but don't care to watch this or the original again. If I remember correctly, I think some buildup or context, if not some scenes were a little lackluster, so I guess this new anime can maybe fix that. We'll see. On second thought: I could try this, if it's a full adaptation, since the movie rushed 6 volumes. the movie didn't rush the volumes. The manga was still ongoing when the movie came out |
Oct 4, 2023 8:08 AM
#29
Reply to CresusJohnson
@Alphchan
Exactly. It always funny when anime fans who don't know anything about mangas -which is the source materials here- give their opinion like they know something about it.
@ohohohohohoho
Akira's movie just adapt 30% of the manga and change a lot of things. Plus the movie was done when the manga was still going on. So he is right, the movie is not a faithful adaptation of the manga.
@toxxo
We are not in a Disney movie. ;-)
Exactly. It always funny when anime fans who don't know anything about mangas -which is the source materials here- give their opinion like they know something about it.
@ohohohohohoho
Akira's movie just adapt 30% of the manga and change a lot of things. Plus the movie was done when the manga was still going on. So he is right, the movie is not a faithful adaptation of the manga.
@toxxo
We are not in a Disney movie. ;-)
@CresusJohnson firstly, yes i think a 2 hours movie can adapt 6 big volumes, because my requirement for an adaptation, even a "faithful" adaptation, is not for it to be exactly the same as the original. actually i'd say it's typically a waste of time to adapt something if nothing is changed about it. however, in this case, i am also well aware that the manga's story is different and that the film was made before the manga was finished. in this case, considering the film was made by THE SAME PERSON as the manga, how can it be called an "unfaithful adaptation?" perhaps it is better to say that it is an incomplete adaptation, or simply an alternate version. point being that even if this new anime tells the "whole" story from the manga, there is a good chance it will be less "faithful" than the film, because to emulate otomo's style is to reproduce more than the narrative details of the manga. |
ohohohohohohoOct 4, 2023 8:13 AM
Oct 4, 2023 8:15 AM
#30
Reply to ohohohohohoho
@CresusJohnson
firstly, yes i think a 2 hours movie can adapt 6 big volumes, because my requirement for an adaptation, even a "faithful" adaptation, is not for it to be exactly the same as the original. actually i'd say it's typically a waste of time to adapt something if nothing is changed about it.
however, in this case, i am also well aware that the manga's story is different and that the film was made before the manga was finished. in this case, considering the film was made by THE SAME PERSON as the manga, how can it be called an "unfaithful adaptation?" perhaps it is better to say that it is an incomplete adaptation, or simply an alternate version. point being that even if this new anime tells the "whole" story from the manga, there is a good chance it will be less "faithful" than the film, because to emulate otomo's style is to reproduce more than the narrative details of the manga.
firstly, yes i think a 2 hours movie can adapt 6 big volumes, because my requirement for an adaptation, even a "faithful" adaptation, is not for it to be exactly the same as the original. actually i'd say it's typically a waste of time to adapt something if nothing is changed about it.
however, in this case, i am also well aware that the manga's story is different and that the film was made before the manga was finished. in this case, considering the film was made by THE SAME PERSON as the manga, how can it be called an "unfaithful adaptation?" perhaps it is better to say that it is an incomplete adaptation, or simply an alternate version. point being that even if this new anime tells the "whole" story from the manga, there is a good chance it will be less "faithful" than the film, because to emulate otomo's style is to reproduce more than the narrative details of the manga.
@ohohohohohoho So we don't have the same definition of "faithful". I understand your opinion but for me a "faithful adaptation" is adapting the whole manga and not just 30% of it. Specially when the manga is better. ;-) |
CresusJohnsonOct 4, 2023 8:25 AM
Oct 4, 2023 8:16 AM
#31
so the notifs are just someone's balls up? prematurely removed and then re-added? |
I have a third testicle that gives me psychic powers |
Oct 4, 2023 8:16 AM
#32
Reply to St0rmblade
_cjessop19_ said:
I swear this got added to the DB like a year ago? Why was it deleted and then re-added?
I swear this got added to the DB like a year ago? Why was it deleted and then re-added?
"Removed:
September 15
To the Moon (37905), Deep Love (38279), Aoki Uru (20471), Top wo Nerae 3! (38273), Chimera (37437), Akira (Shin Anime) (40054), Orbital Era (40055), Onmyou Hyakki Monogatari (40652), World End Economica (40657), Cencoroll 3 (40020), Code Geass: Dakkan no Z (44304), Ane Naru Mono (41005), Yuri!!! on Ice The Movie: Ice Adolescence (35500), Shishigari (39763): no updates for the past 3-6 years. Most likely cancelled."
Just mods doing their thing...
@St0rmblade yet most of these have been added in again? I got a notification for Code Geass. |
Oct 4, 2023 8:35 AM
#33
Reply to _cjessop19_
@St0rmblade yet most of these have been added in again? I got a notification for Code Geass.
@_cjessop19_ Deleting all of these solely based on inactivity was stupid in the first place. Covid completely screwed the production of so many things and they're just delayed. The creator of To The Moon literally made an update just last fall saying the film's still being worked on steadily so that alone proves the mods didn't research well enough. And Shin Akira was announced in the very early planning stages just 5 months before covid. |
Oct 4, 2023 8:45 AM
#34
Reply to SparkleDuck
@_cjessop19_ Deleting all of these solely based on inactivity was stupid in the first place. Covid completely screwed the production of so many things and they're just delayed. The creator of To The Moon literally made an update just last fall saying the film's still being worked on steadily so that alone proves the mods didn't research well enough. And Shin Akira was announced in the very early planning stages just 5 months before covid.
SparkleDuck said: The creator of To The Moon Is there any info about it on some site I can read? Since MAL deleted the entry I can't even find info on this anime project lol _cjessop19_ said: yet most of these have been added in again? I got a notification for Code Geass. maybe different mods are responsible for it, dunno |
Oct 4, 2023 8:50 AM
#35
Reply to St0rmblade
SparkleDuck said:
The creator of To The Moon
The creator of To The Moon
Is there any info about it on some site I can read? Since MAL deleted the entry I can't even find info on this anime project lol
_cjessop19_ said:
yet most of these have been added in again? I got a notification for Code Geass.
yet most of these have been added in again? I got a notification for Code Geass.
maybe different mods are responsible for it, dunno
@St0rmblade Sure. It's an anime film adaptation of an indie game, so pretty niche. I looked at the steam page and saw this update from last year that it's still going through developmental stages. Not cancelled whatsoever. https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1182620/view/3127189423511768276 |
Oct 4, 2023 9:01 AM
#36
This site has the dumbest fucking database mods I swear to God, up there with vndb Well at least through this I found out this and Cencoroll3 apparently exist |
Oct 4, 2023 9:17 AM
#37
The 1988 movie sucks as an adaptation. It only adapted like half of the manga, and it changed a lot of stuff. The movie was iconic at the time of its premiere and it obviously had a massive legacy and impact on anime in general, but I loathe it. It's not faithful enough to the source material and the manga remains superior, so the manga deserves to finally get a proper adaptation someday. |
Oct 4, 2023 9:49 AM
#38
Literally my first thought was that meme of ‘Why? why? Why?…. But why??’ |
Oct 4, 2023 9:53 AM
#39
Deja vu,I could have sworn this was announced like 2 years ago. |
The answer to 1984 is 1776 |
Oct 4, 2023 11:38 AM
#40
deleted and readded , im not adding it to my list again there have been no updates for 4 years 😭 i dont ever think its really going to be finished |
Oct 4, 2023 12:01 PM
#41
Reply to SparkleDuck
@St0rmblade Sure. It's an anime film adaptation of an indie game, so pretty niche. I looked at the steam page and saw this update from last year that it's still going through developmental stages. Not cancelled whatsoever.
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1182620/view/3127189423511768276
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1182620/view/3127189423511768276
SparkleDuck said: @St0rmblade Sure. It's an anime film adaptation of an indie game, so pretty niche. I looked at the steam page and saw this update from last year that it's still going through developmental stages. Not cancelled whatsoever. Thanks. To be honest, I don't think even cancelled projects should be deleted from the DB. There're not really that many of them and they won't clutter the DB, and it's important for research purposes about people's careers, seeing what could've been and so on. Plus some cancelled projects have some production materials that can be of interested. Oh well, just talking to the void. |
Oct 4, 2023 9:28 PM
#42
ill watch it but im not the biggest fan of akira ngl |
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Oct 5, 2023 5:41 AM
#43
Why not ? I mean regardless of the cgi and all that It’s good to see classic sci fi coming back I am getting over all the fantasy medieval isekai reincarnatrion magic and heroes genre……. Pet sci fi shine again…. Like it did in the 80s 90s and early 2000s |
Oct 5, 2023 5:44 AM
#44
Reply to waalex11
Good question.
If I remember right it wasn't fully faithful with some differences, but, yeah, who knows.
Sure, it's a classic, but arguably slightly overrated.
I enjoyed it for a one time watch, but don't care to watch this or the original again.
If I remember correctly, I think some buildup or context, if not some scenes were a little lackluster, so I guess this new anime can maybe fix that.
We'll see.
On second thought:
I could try this, if it's a full adaptation, since the movie rushed 6 volumes.
If I remember right it wasn't fully faithful with some differences, but, yeah, who knows.
Sure, it's a classic, but arguably slightly overrated.
I enjoyed it for a one time watch, but don't care to watch this or the original again.
If I remember correctly, I think some buildup or context, if not some scenes were a little lackluster, so I guess this new anime can maybe fix that.
We'll see.
On second thought:
I could try this, if it's a full adaptation, since the movie rushed 6 volumes.
@waalex11 Overrated lol bro we where both born after the movie came out… How is this overrated I think all the magical medieval isekai’s you see being churned out every season… is what you call overrated….. Attack on Titan is overrated But that’s just me…. |
Oct 5, 2023 5:46 AM
#45
I get it Now days the generation of anime watchers aren’t into sci fi… But the rest of us who grew up with it we are… and still want mor sci fi… I am fed up with HERO THIS REINCARNATION THIS OR MAGIC VENDING MACHINE THAT |
Oct 5, 2023 1:33 PM
#46
Reply to Glutek
Okay, but if you want to adapt Akira according to the manga, use the best studio and people for it. I don't want any animation abomination like it was with Berserk.
@Glutek You're totally correct. The only good anime adaptation of Berserk is the '90s version, even if they diminished the gore. Akira deserves the best studio to do it up right (just like Berserk deserves), or, as the guy who started the thread said, "why?" The manga is soooo amazing, it could have a whole new fan base if they play their cards right, but as history has shown us, they probably will only put in as much effort as it will take to break even. |
Oct 5, 2023 1:47 PM
#47
Reply to ohohohohohoho
it seems bizarre to talk about the "faithfulness" of the adaptation when the same person made the film and the manga. it may not a 1:1 detail for detail adaptation or a complete one, but how can a guy not be faithful to his own intentions for his own work? in all likelihood a new one directed by someone else will be a more complete adaptation that is less faithful. otomo is a mangaka who changed the way people drew manga, from paneling to character designs, but his style on the whole is pretty out of step with conventional anime and manga at this point. akira is still an iconic and respected work though so perhaps it will turn out "faithful" enough.
as to why it's being made, it is likely mostly to introduce the work to younger fans who either don't know much about the old one or are turned off by all things old, while intriguing older fans; and to make money in the process of course.
as to why it's being made, it is likely mostly to introduce the work to younger fans who either don't know much about the old one or are turned off by all things old, while intriguing older fans; and to make money in the process of course.
@ohohohohohoho The movie is great, but story-wise it suffered due to the manga being unfinished. I even think I read somewhere that the manga was started after the film was storyboarded and near completion (don't quote me on that, I read that article a while ago). I read the manga after watching the anime, and I came away from it thinking the author wanted to change elements to make sure it would be a different experience than the film. As a fan of both the manga and the anime, I am super excited about a series, and it definitely doesn't need to be a cash grab, because there is more than enough unexplored material to draw from. Will they capitalize on what has been entrusted to them is the real question. Everybody, if you haven't checked out the manga, you are really missing out! |
usernamewhatuserOct 5, 2023 1:57 PM
Oct 5, 2023 2:01 PM
#48
Not sure about this adaption. The original is one of the most fluid and stunning animations. I have a fear that they will include CGi with this one lol like the Trigun. The original trigun is also one of the top animation of all time but they remake it with CGi. Please be 2D and will check. |
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Oct 5, 2023 5:24 PM
#49
Exactly my sentiment! Why? Cash grab? The western woke crew coming after everything dear to us normal folks? I dunno, but this is going to be a travesty and will ruin the mystic & legend of the og one. |
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