Sword Art Online (light novel)
DarkLight9616 said: ANIk_003 said: Do you think this is Attack on Titan? Finding meaning, understanding character's motives? Since when was Attack on Titan the primordial work that explores the meaning of life and challenges its readers and viewers to understand each character's thoughts, struggles, and way of life? Perhaps, I would advise you to inform yourself of which of the two works, was written first. Because to my understanding Sword Art Online predates Attack on Titan by possibly 10 years. From the beginning dummy, atleast for argument let's say atleast from season 3, the episode - Other Side of The Wall, and also in the Final season. One can not help but try to imagine the situation from both sides perspectives. And it doesn't matter when the manga was written. |
DarkLight9616 said: ANIk_003 said: From the beginning dummy, atleast for argument let's say atleast from season 3, the episode - Other Side of The Wall, and also in the Final season. One can not help but try to imagine the situation from both sides perspectives. And it doesn't matter when the manga was written. I sincerely apologise because it seems that there is nothing I could do to help you. However, if you still fail to grasp my apology to you. Then I sincerely advise you to read carefully my first response to your comment and look back to your second comment to see who is the "dummy", as you called me. I'm sorry, maybe I should not used arguable words in our first encounter, but what I'm trying to say is there obviously explores the reason of their existence and meaning of life. Eren's, Armin's speech in the Final season clearly supports my point. Also Sword art online's plot is simple and straight forward, there is massage of value of life, influence of technology etc. But the fact is SAO is for beginners who don't have to face mind blowing questionable Plot twist and complex world building like Attack on Titan. |
| I've seen your watched list. Please !!! there is much to grasp. I also made Sword Art Online in my favourite list after completing it, it was amazing to me, but I was beginner like u at that time. Now I don't have SAO in my top 10 fav because other desurving series replaced it. I'm suggesting u some Good stuff from which one or two you should have really watched till now. The oder is according to your prefference - more lower u go more deviated it is from your taste I guess. 1. Steins;Gate. 2. Violet Evergarden 3. Erased. 4. Hunter x Hunter. 5. One Peace (If you are up to it). |
| @DarkLight9616 I’m curious to hear your opinions about the answers to these questions. What are Kirito’s notable strengths and weaknesses? (Include example moments where they affect the trajectory of the plot to support your opinion if you would like.) Same question for Asuna, or a different female character if you think that character is more important. What are the most important things Kirito (or Asuna) learn during the story, or how do they otherwise grow as individuals, in personality or wisdom? What do you think are the main ‘themes’ of SAO? (My own examples to demonstrate: ‘sanctity of life’ for Death Note, ‘iconoclasm’ for Gurren Lagann, ‘Nietszchean slave morality’ for Attack on Titan) I assure you I am honestly curious about your ideas. I didn’t think much of SAO as a story but if I like your answers it will improve my rewatch experience. |
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| Reading through this thread, it looks like everything here was written by bots. Assuming you're human, I guess I'll say one positive thing about SAO: I liked seeing Asuna's sideboob in Ordinal Scale. I don't like much else in this series. |
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DarkLight9616 said: Thanks, I appreciate the response. I'll definitely have what you said in mind next time I watch it.ScionOfCyan said: @DarkLight9616 I’m curious to hear your opinions about the answers to these questions. What are Kirito’s notable strengths and weaknesses? (Include example moments where they affect the trajectory of the plot to support your opinion if you would like.) Same question for Asuna, or a different female character if you think that character is more important. What are the most important things Kirito (or Asuna) learn during the story, or how do they otherwise grow as individuals, in personality or wisdom? What do you think are the main ‘themes’ of SAO? (My own examples to demonstrate: ‘sanctity of life’ for Death Note, ‘iconoclasm’ for Gurren Lagann, ‘Nietszchean slave morality’ for Attack on Titan) I assure you I am honestly curious about your ideas. I didn’t think much of SAO as a story but if I like your answers it will improve my rewatch experience. Kirito Weakness - loneliness, is one of Kirito's main weaknesses in the first half of the Sword Art Online storytelling. Evidence of loneliness can be seen through his relationship with his family, and when Klein invited him to join his groups. This also can be applied to the Moonlit Black Cats group incident. Secondly, Trust- again Kirito was unable to trust his family and the Moonlit Black Cats group. For example, I believe that if Kirito were to show his level to the Moonlit Black Cats. The accident would be averted. Asuna - independence, at the beginning of the series, Asuna did not try to rely on others to clear the game. And, tried to do everything on her own, to the point that she collapsed in the dungeon. Which could result in her death if Kirito did not rescue her. Self Harm- Asuna, besides being a very strong-willed and independent girl. It is possible to say that at the beginning of the series, Asuna was very careless to the point that one could say that she had suicidal issues. Which, to be more precise, resulted in her having a mindset and personal belief that pushed her forward, to clear the game no matter the consequence. Strengths- besides their intelligence and intellectual abilities they both possess. Another strength I would give to them is confidence, self-care, and being quick learners and very considerate of their friends well being. I believe that one of the most important things Kirito and Asuna learned throughout the series, is how to turn their weaknesses into strengths. But, also to be more open-minded and forgiving to oneself and family members and friends. Which, is presented between Asuna and her mother's interaction. And, Kirito and Suguha's relationship as sister and brother compared to the beginning of the series. In my opinion, and to my understanding of Sword Art Online. The themes of the series are love, family, treatment of life, and forgiveness. |
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| Ah, Sword Art Online, a phantasmagorical blend of digital reverie and cerebral discourse that traverses the labyrinthine corridors of augmented realities. Its sublime yet cataclysmic narrative arcs engender a multitude of ruminations and engrossing musings on the tapestry of the human condition. In this transcendental odyssey, the narrative elocution commences with a magnanimous convergence of technology and virtual landscapes, propelling the hapless denizens into an enigmatic and perilous world. Kirito, our sagacious yet introspective protagonist, emerges as the epitome of the post-modern hero, oscillating between the digital morass and the visceral realms of existence. The anime's verisimilitude, despite the absence of tangible reality, is a testament to its inherent ingenuity. Through a masterful symphony of visual aesthetics, the ethereal backdrops and intricate character designs coalesce into a maelstrom of kaleidoscopic splendor, ensnaring the viewers' senses in a visual and intellectual embrace. The multifaceted themes that reverberate throughout Sword Art Online are as expansive as the boundless cosmos itself. Existential quandaries, metaphysical juxtapositions, and the fragility of human connections are meticulously interwoven into the narrative fabric. The ostensible dichotomy between the digital personas and their corporeal counterparts becomes a tantalizing allegory for the duality of human existence, shedding light on the inherent contradictions and poignant frailties of our mortal coil. Moreover, Sword Art Online dares to traverse uncharted realms of speculative fiction, introducing a captivating exploration of artificial intelligence and the ramifications it begets. The transcendent consciousness of the virtual realm permeates the emotional core of the anime, offering a poignant and introspective meditation on the very nature of sentience and its inextricable link to our own humanity. While the ostensible potency of the anime's themes is undeniably captivating, one cannot escape the occasional foray into narrative convolution and superfluous tangents. These instances of temporal misgivings dilute the overall cohesiveness, lending a modicum of chagrin amidst the ebullient reverie. Nevertheless, Sword Art Online stands as a valiant testament to the inherent potency of animated storytelling, traversing the realms of the digital and the philosophical with an audacity that is both commendable and awe-inspiring. It ignites a fiery mélange of cogitation and emotion, ensnaring the viewer within its ethereal embrace, while beckoning them to ponder the ethereal tapestry that binds our ever-evolving reality. |
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DarkLight9616 said: ejleon said: They are huge reason society has fallen into the garbage, they ruined philosophy Why would the reason for Society's downfall, be attributed, or befall them? I’ll revise, Kant is a little different than the rest. The main difference is that I like those responsible for or appreciate the Western Tradition which resulted in the upward progress of humanity to the Renaissance, creation of Modern Science, Age of Exploration / Discovery, Enlightenment, looking to benefit humans all over the world. Those you suggest, those that hate and reject the Western Tradition, which has lead to the downward spiral of humanity, resulting in WWI, Communism, Nazi Germany, WWII, Cold War, and the increase of nihilism / depression / anxiety / suicide / lawlessness / immorality / murder / abortion / euthanasia, with psychology failing to provide any answers, only offering pills, meaning greedy companies profiting off of humans treated as guinea pigs, along with ruining education to produce naive ignorant mindless gullible workers easily fooled by propaganda for the 1% of the world to take advantage of them. |
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.  |
DarkLight9616 said: ejleon said: They are huge reason society has fallen into the garbage, they ruined philosophy Why would the reason for Society's downfall, be attributed, or befall them? Do you know the difference between the philosophers before the 1700s and many philosophers during / after the 1700s ? |
| Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating. |
DarkLight9616 said: When watching Sword Art Online I think people should first ask themselves. What is Sword Art Online? And What is the meaning behind each arc? Or, perhaps, what is the hidden message Sword Art Online as a whole is trying to pass to me and others? Which to me. Sword Art Online is an art of swords brought to you online by Kayaba Akihiko. And, broken down into multiple parts by Heathcliff himself. Part - 1: Is, a lovely storytelling that explores a beautiful romance between Kirito and Asuna, and their first encounter. Part - 2: The difficulties they faced and how much effort they have to put, to overcome them. And, the amazing people and friends they made as a reward, throughout their journey. Part - 3: The evolution of VR/AR from NerveGear, Amusphere, Medicuboid, Augma, and The Soul Translator. And, their contribution to the evolution of science, technology, medicine, and new form of entertainment. Part - 4: The enjoyment of watching Kirito and Asuna explore different VR worlds from Aincrad, Alftheim, GGO, and The Underworld. And, yet to come Unital Ring. Plus, their unique settings, atmosphere and feeling that comes with it. Part - 5: The value of life, and what it means to be human. And, how technology can influence a person's perspective of the world, and challenge them to ask what is real and what is not, as technology advances further. And how The Underworld represents Humanity's imagination and ambition of being a Creator. And, the concept of playing God's game, by trying to dictate the fate of Alice and the Underworld people. This. 100% this. Don’t listen to those annoying haters who don’t want to bother reading and understanding what you’re saying nor don’t want to take the time to understand the point of SAO. SAO is all about the power of relationships and being able to grow as a human as a result of forming and maintaining powerful relationships, despite the world being virtual. Kirito as a character is very deep and complex, with his own weaknesses and failures, and then eventually being able to grow from it thanks to the people he met, working to be a strong, compassionate, selfless, and caring hero with a powerful heart. |
MineFord_gurme said: DarkLight9616 said: The first question you should ask yourself when watching Sword Art Online is the hidden message behind each arc. Or, perhaps what is Sword Art Online? Which to me. Sword Art Online online is an art of swords brought to you online by Kayaba Akihiko. Which later on was broken down into the following parts by Heathcliff. Part - 1: Is, a lovely storytelling that explores a beautiful romance between Kirito and Asuna, and their first encounter. Part - 2: The difficulties they faced and how much effort they have to put, to overcome them. And, the amazing people and friends they made as a reward, throughout their journey. Part - 3: The evolution of VR/AR from NerveGear, Amusphere, Medicuboid, Augma, and The Soul Translator. And, their contribution to the evolution of science, technology, medicine, and new form of entertainment. Part - 4: The enjoyment of watching Kirito and Asuna explore different VR worlds from Aincrad, Alftheim, GGO, and The Underworld. And, yet to come Unital Ring. Plus, their unique settings, atmosphere and feeling that comes with it. Part - 5: The value of life, and what it means to be human. And, how technology can influence a person's perspective of the world, and challenge them to ask what is real and what is not, as technology advances further. And how The Underworld represents Humanity's imagination and ambition of being a Creator. And, the concept of playing God's game, by trying to dictate the fate of Alice and the Underworld people. You're such a sick sao fan 🤮 You're pretty much one if you're here as well, unless I am mistaken and confused as to why you're even here... (no offense 🤗) P.S. To give a response to this thread's author... I think posting here in the first season's sub forum is not the appropriate decision as most of what you pointed out are from the future arcs... so... spoilers... Honestly, I quite enjoyed the series whether or not it ruined most of its potential to be a great series. It has some interesting characters and plot. That's all. |
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| It's not that I dislike this genre but... to add unnecessary fan services to/in/for heroines and ultimately destroys her character and personality; their purity tarnished because of it, is the only thing I hope to not happen to them. For that sole purity is my fan service. |
| OP does a good job of making a pretty well thought out post and the typical SAO haters just immediately start trashing on it like usual, let alone doing so just to name shows they think are "better", not only sad, but also pathetic. |
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DarkLight9616 said: I do apologize, I had forgotten I answered already and MAL notifications still had your response as unread.ejleon said: Do you know the difference between the philosophers before the 1700s and many philosophers during / after the 1700s ? I believe that the difference is unrelated to the question I have asked and does not answer the question at all. In advance, I have already read your prior answer to my question before, which I found reasonable enough. However, I still believe that the blame should not be aligned to them, but instead to those that interpret the teaching wrongly, and miss used it for their wrongdoing. I understand, thanks for discussing. |
| Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating. |
DarkLight9616 said: I have never thought of SAO this way. I just assumed each part was about Kirito getting a new harem member.When watching Sword Art Online I think people should first ask themselves. What is Sword Art Online? And What is the meaning behind each arc? Or, perhaps, what is the hidden message Sword Art Online as a whole is trying to pass to me and others? Which to me. Sword Art Online is an art of swords brought to you online by Kayaba Akihiko. And, broken down into multiple parts by Heathcliff himself. Part - 1: Is, a lovely storytelling that explores a beautiful romance between Kirito and Asuna, and their first encounter. Part - 2: The difficulties they faced and how much effort they have to put, to overcome them. And, the amazing people and friends they made as a reward, throughout their journey. Part - 3: The evolution of VR/AR from NerveGear, Amusphere, Medicuboid, Augma, and The Soul Translator. And, their contribution to the evolution of science, technology, medicine, and new form of entertainment. Part - 4: The enjoyment of watching Kirito and Asuna explore different VR worlds from Aincrad, Alftheim, GGO, and The Underworld. And, yet to come Unital Ring. Plus, their unique settings, atmosphere and feeling that comes with it. Part - 5: The value of life, and what it means to be human. And, how technology can influence a person's perspective of the world, and challenge them to ask what is real and what is not, as technology advances further. And how The Underworld represents Humanity's imagination and ambition of being a Creator. And, the concept of playing God's game, by trying to dictate the fate of Alice and the Underworld people. |
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