Your Lie in April
| Contains spoilers for Your Lie in April. I watched this years ago and sometimes I let it sink in for a while and after all this time I still don't get what this anime was trying to tell us. First Kaori cucks Kousei and then it turns into some doki doki shit where everything is about Kousei's trauma that literally nobody cares about and then we get some random flashbacks from side characters that also nobody gives a shit about. Then it suddenly shifts into Kousei cucking Tsubaki and them finding out about Kaori's illness (which was totally not super obvious already) and her talking about enjoying life truthfully while she is literally the worst example of it by lying to herself AND her friends about everything she could and then she just dies and lefts all her friends depressed for probably some years and that's it. For me it looks like the whole anime is just building up for these last 5 minutes to be the biggest tearjerker ever while providing absolutely nothing of substance. I'm all for cringey romance and sad endings but this is just bullshit. Why is this so popular and highly rated? Did I miss some deep underlying message here? |
| Aka most Drama-Anime, no? Don't see what the big Deal is, really. Think the tearjerking is just a big part of it's appeal. The Feels, etc. etc. |
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| Tbf, when I watched it many years ago I really liked it and thought the ending was sad, but in retrospective I also realized that this was a poorly done drama with characters literally kicking the guy with trauma from abuse as comedy, it is just a big mismatch of tone that undermines absolutely everything. Many stupid stuff are highly rated on this site like Shingeki no Kyojin and 86, but I'm sure you already know this. And no, you didn't lost any underlaying message because there were none. |
| The music was great!!! Unfortunately for me, Thats the only thing that is great in this show!!! & nope, Forcing someone to do things & making fun of trauma due to abuse is not funny!!! The comedy of this show is so out of place!!! |
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| I guess someone here doesn't understand how dramas work. All of those flashbacks are important for character development. Every main character has an arc throughout the story. The main leads' traumas are well explored and don't overstay their welcome. You not liking any of it just seems like a you problem. The show is rated high because it's well made, as simple as that. |
| i feel like it should’ve been 12 eps rather than 24eps? there were a few episodes that just felt repeated at times from when i watched it a long while ago |
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reirukah said: i feel like it should’ve been 12 eps rather than 24eps? there were a few episodes that just felt repeated at times from when i watched it a long while ago then again, it was a drama and it’s not really my type of genre to watch… i really have no right to place my opinion on here!! |
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truth999 said: it's a romantic drama and from what you described you don't like them PikaboyTK said: I guess someone here doesn't understand how dramas work. All of those flashbacks are important for character development. Every main character has an arc throughout the story. The main leads' traumas are well explored and don't overstay their welcome. You not liking any of it just seems like a you problem. The show is rated high because it's well made, as simple as that. Romance drama is my most watched and highest rated genre overall but I guess I just don't like them and don't get how drama works. makeinue said: I think it's so highly regarded by many becuase it was the first year generator anime/show they've watched. I know so many guys that told me they cried for the first time watching TV media. A lot of new comers to anime were recommended this show by video essays on YouTube and by friends is what I got from talking to various people. Yeah I guess that could be the reason, I think it's not that bad while you watch it but if you let some time pass and think about it again you realize how bad it really was so it got a lot of hype while it was still new. PranjalT01 said: I love how every reply here is given by pretentious douches who are trying to act cool....no one's trauma was made as a joke it started with arima suffering from his past and ended up by him overcoming it in the end...kaori using kousei's friend was fucked up but the guy was already a fucking cheater....tsubaki overtime realising about her feelings in the anime was as natural as it can get....and kaori living the last of her days with the guy she fell in love and the guy who inspired her was in no way a bad thing to do...i can also tell a lot more things which make this story a masterpiece it is but let's leave it at that... But Kousei didn't overcome his trauma. Kaori tried to help him for the moment but her "haha it was all just a lie, gotcha" at the end pretty much ruined all of the progress Kousei made and left him behind even worse. And I agree Tsubaki's arc was the only enjoyable part of that anime. Uchiller said: so I guess if you were a 15 old and you had a terminal illness, you would have lived your life miserably and have people care for you. I love how all of you say she didn't do them well, she was manipulative, while she just tried to live whatever life she had left to the fullest. She was a fucking teenager , how can you even try to reason that someone as desperate as she was, should have been straight up HoNeSt? Being a teenager with a terminal illness doesn't give you a free pass to be a fucking asshole and constantly manipulate and lie to your friends. How is that enjoying life to her fullest? She could've just asked him out if she was in love with him but she decided to cuck him instead. She didn't live out her emotions, she didn't enjoy anything except being a dumb liar. SparCy said: Also when he had a performance and has the drowning thing it is always the same. It was decent the first time but every time is happened it just became less interesting. reirukah said: i feel like it should’ve been 12 eps rather than 24eps? there were a few episodes that just felt repeated at times from when i watched it a long while ago I felt the same and I was close to dropping it because of that. The first time it was great how his trauma got portrayed with the underwater scene and his mother sitting in the crowd but then it got repeated again and again and again and I think it took up like 10 full episodes just to see this shit on repeat. The only reason I continued was because I heard the ending was great. |
ateks said: Well there's different types of drama, you realise that right? I don't see why accepting the fact that this show just wasn't for you is so hard. Like I said earlier, the show is well made. You didn't like it. No big deal. No need to shit on it. Romance drama is my most watched and highest rated genre overall but I guess I just don't like them and don't get how drama works. |
PikaboyTK said: ateks said: Well there's different types of drama, you realise that right? I don't see why accepting the fact that this show just wasn't for you is so hard. Like I said earlier, the show is well made. You didn't like it. No big deal. No need to shit on it. Romance drama is my most watched and highest rated genre overall but I guess I just don't like them and don't get how drama works. Where did I say that I didn't like the anime? I just said it didn't make sense and if I missed something. Why are you getting so defensive? |
ateks said: PikaboyTK said: Well there's different types of drama, you realise that right? I don't see why accepting the fact that this show just wasn't for you is so hard. Like I said earlier, the show is well made. You didn't like it. No big deal. No need to shit on it. Where did I say that I didn't like the anime? I just said it didn't make sense and if I missed something. Why are you getting so defensive? Ah so you liked this show? My bad. I usually don't go around calling something I like "bullshit", so that kinda went over my head. My reason for getting defensive is the same reason as for you being offensive. The way you phrased your words almost makes it sound like you hated every aspect of this show. "Nobody cares about this/that. This is just bullshit. Why is this show highly rated?" and so on. People here have already addressed your problem with the show. The story isn't showing some deep psychological event. A kid had an abusive childhood, another one is dying. Common problems tackled almost seriously throughout. What I didn't see you mention was the dumb slapstick comedy of everyone hitting the seemingly depressed teenager. It's good for a laugh once or twice but not everytime. But I guess you are more disappointed by the supposed "cucking". The show is a musical drama, and it follows up on that beautifully. Characters are in love with each other but do you really want them to just confess to each other from the get-go? Have no "drama" whatsoever? That won't be much fun now would it. They have certain traumas to fight, expectations to live up to. It's done well. I don't understand what doesn't make sense to you. It's pretty straightforward really. If you can't feel any of it at all, then is it so far-fetched to say that perhaps you just didn't like it? |
| Only cared about the piano. 10/10 performance. Kousei sure showed Kaori how its done at the end. Tearjerking performance. |
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ateks said: I literally just finished rewatching this show today, first watched it in 2016. Some of the sentences you typed here actually are taken right out of my mouth such as "and then we get some random flashbacks from side characters that also nobody gives a shit about". Honestly the whole show should've been shorter, the story is a mess when you look at it on a deep analytical level, the stuff Kaori says about looking up literally was contradicted by herself giving up until like episode 20 when Kousei tells her he wants to play with her again. Very much hypocrisy, and then her struggles to continue living like doing rehab doubling down on the damage it does to Kousei because she collapses again in the Hospital bed in front of him and Watari. She doesn't want to make a mess for Tsubaki and Kousei but literally does that because Kousei still falls in love with her and breaking the status quo. It is a very very messy plot, and one that I often compare to "I want to eat your Pancreas" where it has a similar story plot, but that show didn't have side characters butting in on entire episodes, and the attention was focused primarily on the two leads. The trauma of Saki that Kousei experiences was well over half the series, and then the second half of the show was littered with side characters that I didn't even remember existed (ex.Nagi). It just sucks because I actually think the show could've made so much more impact if it cut the mother trauma segment short, and focused more on Kaori and Kousei, AKA not making Kaori literally in the hospital ever after episode 4, where they last played together. Literally why was their last performance together episode 4/22????? Music wise, I liked the osts better than the classical music they played. So on this second watch, no idea how I rated this show a 10/10 in 2016, guess I was really young. This is like top a 7/10 for me now. Contains spoilers for Your Lie in April. I watched this years ago and sometimes I let it sink in for a while and after all this time I still don't get what this anime was trying to tell us. First Kaori cucks Kousei and then it turns into some doki doki shit where everything is about Kousei's trauma that literally nobody cares about and then we get some random flashbacks from side characters that also nobody gives a shit about. Then it suddenly shifts into Kousei cucking Tsubaki and them finding out about Kaori's illness (which was totally not super obvious already) and her talking about enjoying life truthfully while she is literally the worst example of it by lying to herself AND her friends about everything she could and then she just dies and lefts all her friends depressed for probably some years and that's it. For me it looks like the whole anime is just building up for these last 5 minutes to be the biggest tearjerker ever while providing absolutely nothing of substance. I'm all for cringey romance and sad endings but this is just bullshit. Why is this so popular and highly rated? Did I miss some deep underlying message here? |
Ionliosite2 said: Tbf, when I watched it many years ago I really liked it and thought the ending was sad, but in retrospective I also realized that this was a poorly done drama with characters literally kicking the guy with trauma from abuse as comedy, it is just a big mismatch of tone that undermines absolutely everything. Many stupid stuff are highly rated on this site like Shingeki no Kyojin and 86, but I'm sure you already know this. And no, you didn't lost any underlaying message because there were none. Shingeki no Kyojin was pretty much the best anime in existence until the plot started wobbling at the second half of S4 Part 2. I don't see how 86 deserves a low rating at all, the payoff for the first season was absolutely peak, although I did prefer the first cour to the second but that's in line with what the LN readers said about the source Both of those are L opinions. I agree with YLIA being poorly done though |
Uchiller said: SparCy said: Not liking something you like does not mean they’re trying to “act cool.” All of what you said it true. But here are some other truth of the series. Kaori is constantly lying and manipulating her self and her friends over stuff you definitely shouldn’t be lying about. Yet they present her as a golden girl when she’s probably one of the worst people in this show. The build up to the lie as the end was ultimately wasted when we found out how stupid and nonsensical it was. So you wasted a whole year of a guys life just to get another guy you actually wanted? And there was clearly other ways of becoming friends with him? Thats as manipulative as it comes plus they don’t address how fucked up that was. Also the show tries to redeem arima’s mother by telling us “but she just wanted him to be the best” which is in no way an excuse for assaulting your child. Also when he had a performance and has the drowning thing it is always the same. It was decent the first time but every time is happened it just became less interesting. Also the music in this is great. so I guess if you were a 15 old and you had a terminal illness, you would have lived your life miserably and have people care for you. I love how all of you say she didn't do them well, she was manipulative, while she just tried to live whatever life she had left to the fullest. She was a fucking teenager , how can you even try to reason that someone as desperate as she was, should have been straight up HoNeSt? easy to judge when you re not actually paying attention to the show. His mother sure was doing wrong hitting him, but ultimately she just wanted to excel in his (or hers) "dream". And it was not a "I will get a job dream" , it's a dream of actually being the very best at piano, which I hope you know it doesn't come that straightforward.Nothing comes easy on life. You can't put morals on trying their best when both arimas and kaoris life were full of shit. Those of you who say that the show is bad because of this concept, just wanted a generic spice of life fictional story. So take off these "morally correct" glasses and "everyone should act good" behaviour and try to see the show for what it is. Characters act like people irl would and portrays them very good Thr problem was Kousei's redemption being sidelined after like the first half of the series and focusing on Kaori's illness. Her death, to be honest, was only for the purpose of the series being a tearjerker. Also the love triangle between Tsubaki, Kousei and Kaori was the worst direction this show could've taken and it pretty much ruined the show for me. The series contradicts itself. |
| no, absolutely not. This series is atrocious and does not offer anything other than cheap tearjerking attempts |
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CreepHazard said: Ionliosite2 said: Tbf, when I watched it many years ago I really liked it and thought the ending was sad, but in retrospective I also realized that this was a poorly done drama with characters literally kicking the guy with trauma from abuse as comedy, it is just a big mismatch of tone that undermines absolutely everything. Many stupid stuff are highly rated on this site like Shingeki no Kyojin and 86, but I'm sure you already know this. And no, you didn't lost any underlaying message because there were none. Shingeki no Kyojin was pretty much the best anime in existence until the plot started wobbling at the second half of S4 Part 2. I don't see how 86 deserves a low rating at all, the payoff for the first season was absolutely peak, although I did prefer the first cour to the second but that's in line with what the LN readers said about the source Both of those are L opinions. I agree with YLIA being poorly done though There has been better anime than Shingeki no Kyojin for about decades and there have been better anime after it premiered as well. Because 86 is a show that people praise just because it isn't an isekai or romcom when it actually has as good characterization as the most generic of those genres, everything it does was already better done by other mecha series, and it is basically Code Geass Boukoku no Akito, the racism aesop was done in a more subtle manner in Code Geass and there it wasn't subtle at all, there are so many problems with 86, but it is apparently a perfect adaptation from the LN, so the problems comes from that, but it isn't helped by A-1 ugly CGI mechas. |
Ionliosite2Apr 7, 2023 9:39 AM
Ionliosite2 said: CreepHazard said: Shingeki no Kyojin was pretty much the best anime in existence until the plot started wobbling at the second half of S4 Part 2. I don't see how 86 deserves a low rating at all, the payoff for the first season was absolutely peak, although I did prefer the first cour to the second but that's in line with what the LN readers said about the source Both of those are L opinions. I agree with YLIA being poorly done though There has been better anime than Shingeki no Kyojin for about decades and there have been better anime after it premiered as well. Because 86 is a show that people praise just because it isn't an isekai or romcom when it actually has as good characterization as the most generic of those genres, everything it does was already better done by other mecha series, and it is basically Code Geass Boukoku no Akito, the racism aesop was done in a more subtle manner in Code Geass and there it wasn't subtle at all, there are so many problems with 86, but it is apparently a perfect adaptation from the LN, so the problems comes from that, but it isn't helped by A-1 ugly CGI mechas. AoT definitely took a hit in the later parts, but it definitely was the best anime storytelling up till the first half of season 4 part 2. 86 is literally the most non-mecha mecha ever, and it's literally better made than 95% of anime, and no the CGI was pretty good. It definitely deserves the rating after it had such a good production as well |
Ayanokamisama said: CreepHazard said: AoT definitely took a hit in the later parts, but it definitely was the best anime storytelling up till the first half of season 4 part 2. 86 is literally the most non-mecha mecha ever, and it's literally better made than 95% of anime, and no the CGI was pretty good. It definitely deserves the rating after it had such a good production as well 86 was pretty good I recommend you to watch peak fiction Gundam I should watch Gundam sometime tbh, the new Gundam series kind of piqued my interest. It's just the aged artstyle that keeps me from watching it. I'll consider it thanks for the recommendation |
Ionliosite2 said: everything it does was already better done by other mecha series, and it is basically Code Geass Boukoku no Akito, the racism aesop was done in a more subtle manner in Code Geass and there it wasn't subtle at all, there are so many problems with 86, but it is apparently a perfect adaptation from the LN, so the problems comes from that, but it isn't helped by A-1 ugly CGI mechas. but AoT dive deep into Jungian psychology and merges it with Norse mythology and other mythical stuff...  http://tryingtoseereality.blogspot.com/2012/08/diagramming-psyche-picture-of-jungian.html better than Evangelion, Code Geass, Serial Experiments Lain..etc tho |
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