| I don't have a single problem with it. Fantastic series all around. |
| It could be what I like the least in the whole series. Monster is metaphoric at times, but always since a realistic scheme. That open ending... it was just coward for me. |
| that's just one of the points of the show, leaving things to our interpretation. I personally liked the ending , it felt empty at first but then I realized how good it is. I think johan was dead in the end, i dont remember a lot but i dont think tenma knew about johans mother choosing between the twins, maybe the mother told him and then he saw a dream in the room where johan was supposed to be in but was not. (bc he died) |
| I woke up from the dream. There were so many visions I had of the end, but now I'm picturing a different ending altogether; a clearer vision of the true ending. - Johan Liebert |
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| I think the ending of Monster is in my opinion one of the best endings in anime history and one of the best cliffhangers/open endings. I know that not everyone like the ending because it was open. I would have prefer a completed ending to their the story is offical finished. On the other hand i think the decision of Naoki Urasawa to make a cliffhanger or better say a open ending was not bad, it was more likely a very special way to end a magnificent story and anime to. When I watched the last scene of Monster their Johan looked directly to Tenma in his eyes. I was completly in shocked and got frightened because this moment came out of nowhere but when it was shown that it was not really real because Johan was still sleeping i could rest briefly for a moment. Furthermore when Tenma was leaving the hospital and when the anime shows afterwards that Johan was not in his bed anymore i was completly out of my mind. I freaked out and i couldn't believed that it ended like this. Afterwards looking back at this ending after more than 2 years it shows very good how Johan could be still alive and go on with his perfect suicide or he could start a new life that likely is not going to happened. It was just in my mind when I watched the last scene in that moment but knowing how great his character as a antagonist was i think i'm happy with it that he is still alive even if he could murder more people. I know it sounds a little bit weird but to just show how Johan could be still alive or (maybe not) is a good way to end monster even if i would prefer a closed ending to. At least the ending shows to that Johans story is still not finished and the journey of the nameless monster is still going on even after all the episodes on how Tenma wanted to stop Johan. Therefore the last minutes of monster shows to If Johan was really the real monster because of the decision of his mother in her past not knowing which of her kids was Johan or not and eventually giving him to Franz Bonaparta forced. It shows many questions to at this specific open ending. This could be the reason to why some watchers dont really like the ending of Monster because the ending opens a lot of questions for them and for me to. But I think this ending wanted to be in our mind forever and It achieved it and some of the questions that i have after watching Monster is of course still not answered but because of this special ending i will remember it for my hole life and that is for me a very positive point even if it is frustrating that we will never have answers for our questions and what will excatly happend after Johan escape out of the hospital. All in all I will still remember this ending as one of the most remarkable and well-known anime endings of all time even if it could have end maybe in a different way but it is still for me a very good ending. |
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| It's a masterpiece of an ending. |
Saumay69 said: which part of the ending?Can Anyone explain Monster Ending? |
| Because it took the series fucking 76 episodes just for the last episode to return to the same exact beginning we had, it just returned to episode one all over again with the answer to Tenma's moral dilemma being the obvious "yes" it was always going to be. |
Ionliosite2 said: Oof, an Eva fan.Because it took the series fucking 76 episodes just for the last episode to return to the same exact beginning we had, it just returned to episode one all over again with the answer to Tenma's moral dilemma being the obvious "yes" it was always going to be. JetAway said: no it didn't ruin it at all. The point of Tenma saving Johan again was that the latter turned human again hence the empty bed. Tenma achieved that while STILL maintaining his morals.it's not that it's an open ending, it actively ruins the show. The whole point of Monster is Tenma trying to take accountability for saving Johan. Having Tenma save Johan again is bonkers. It puts him right where he was in the beginning of the show, basically saying that the show's events didn't matter. |
JetAway said: well remember Grimmer said "i finally know the ending to the Magnificent Steiner. He turned human again." right before his death and considering Monster's about human nature that "interpretation" makes perfect sense. The first time Tenma treated Johan, he saved his life. The second time, he saved his SOUL.TRC_Randy said: Oof, an Eva fan. no it didn't ruin it at all. The point of Tenma saving Johan again was that the latter turned human again hence the empty bed. Tenma achieved that while STILL maintaining his morals. that's an interpretation. Johan simply leaving his bed does not tell you he was reformed |
JetAway said: and for the show's narrative in general not just Johan. You see you won't realize all these things unless you follow the key lines in the dialogue and link them altogether.TRC_Randy said: well remember Grimmer said "i finally know the ending to the Magnificent Steiner. He turned human again." right before his death and considering Monster's about human nature that "interpretation" makes perfect sense. The first time Tenma treated Johan, he saved his life. The second time, he saved his SOUL. Bruh. He was talking about himself |
JetAway said: i don't see how "confirmation" being a MUST in fiction especially for a partially show-don't-tell series like Monster.TRC_Randy said: and for the show's narrative in general not just Johan. You see you won't realize all these things unless you follow the key lines in the dialogue and link them altogether. Look I’m not saying that Johan turning human isn’t supported by lines of dialogue. I’m just saying that a few hints do not even come close to confirming what happened to Johan. JetAway said: everyone has their own ideologies so it's not a matter of it being foolish or not (unless maybe you can prove it objectively).And besides that. I simply don’t like that Tenma chose to save Johan. He wouldn’t know that Johan would turn good even if Johan actually did turn good like you say. To me, it’s as if Tenma was ok with letting a murderer roam free for his foolish ideology. The point is that: 1. Tenma believes all human lives are equal and no one has the right to take another human's life, 2. Johan believes the opposite (not exactly but kind of), 3. killing Johan would mean violating his own principle AND stepping one foot into Johan's ideology. 4. By saving him Tenma maintained his morality, prevented (3) and even 5. changed Johan from monster back to human. 6. In other words Tenma actually beat Johan ideologically with his action. "An act of kindness saves the day" you could say. |
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