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| Wow! What an amazing episode, soo dark. I could kinda feel the energy that Kaede had while watching this episode, man she was really scary. Just like some say, this episode does remind me of Higurashi no Naku Koro ni. I wonder what is going on with Asa tho. |
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| Thats what she gets for being the best guy stealer. Cmon Kaede kick them both out and torture Rin to , will be the best since i dislike Rin because of this episode. |
| Bitch is crazy, thats all i have to say. Even though this is a played out phrase: I seriously thought a school days ending was going to occur after seeing her like this. |
Muchan said: If she tried to kill Rin that means she would have killed herself too if she'd thought she was to blame.You know if Rin didn't lie to her trying to make it sound like it was his fault that her mom took an earlier flight home and got in the accident, maybe she would not have been a psycho bitch to him while they were growing up. But I guess he told that lie because he was trying to protect in her in a way so that she doesn't blame herself for the accident. Also, Kaede indeed never went into a yandere mood in the actual game but she did try to kill Rin to the point her father had to protect Rin's life. She also went a bit insane because she wanted Rin but she felt unfit to be his equal. So she was still crazy, just not killer-like crazy. |
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Explicitz said: Bitch is crazy, thats all i have to say. Even though this is a played out phrase: I seriously thought a school days ending was going to occur after seeing her like this. Exactly what I was thinking. That stare gave me nightmares last night. I seriously thought she was gonna kill Asa or Rin. That stare.. that god damn STARE! |
"You were a dream, in a life that has been nothing but a Hellish Nightmare..."(Lucy -Elfen Lied) |
| Man Rin has got to be the most dumbest male protagonist I ever encountered in anime. I know Kaede is no saint but I hope Rin finally realizes why she went off like that and how much he's hurting her. I'm not supporting or rooting for Kaede I just want Rin to understand each girl's feeling and how much they care for him. If Rin does not see how much Kaede means to him by how much she goes out of her way, well he's an idiot. At this moment I'm not rooting for any girl, I'm watching to see how all this pans out. However I do give Rin respect for taking the blame for the death of Kaede's mom, even though it wasn't his fault. |
Mr_DaftPunkAug 18, 2011 4:58 AM
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 nailbitingly epic Kaede exposition. this is delicious! |
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| Wow, 5/5. Kaede's starting to remind me of Rena from Higurashi. Especially the eyes in that one scene O_o Anyway, now that that's happened, I've got a feeling that Rin's not going to end up with her. And yeah, I kind of have a bad feeling that I'm going to get Nice Boat'ed, too... |
Jegus, Kaede... You're scaring all of us. Please stop. Go back to sweet and adorable so I can not have nightmares... I think the worst part about this episode was that she destroyed the pictures. I mean, seriously. Entrance fees to Cupid Land were expensive... I'm gonna be quiet now. Regards, Komiya |
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| It sucks having to go to work after this episode, this was like when i went to bed after episode 21 of Clannad after story... Just bad timing! :-) Great series by the way! I should've watched it earlier... |
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PharaohSauron said: That episode felt like I had been punched in the chest and had the wind knocked out of me. It was like "Holy *bleep*, that was heavy." I found it interesting that Rin never yelled at Kaede that BOTH of his parents were gone. He just took it all for her. ^ this... Side note, when Kaede looked up from the pot to primu and stared I knew this was going to be some psycho epsiode. She has the craziest look on her face and she looked psychotic. That was a crazy episode. Uncharacteristic for how light-hearted the anime has been. |
| Damn, this episode was just crazy. Rin didn't want Kaede to feel bad about her mother and because of that, took all of her abuse. Kaede has some serious problems and I have this bad feeling that this series might end with a nice boat. |
| I have seen episode 19 and begins to be... indeed it has already become scary! has totally changed register O_O then the episode is titled "Unforgettable feelings" but I would never think to THAT kind of memories. I knew it was about Kaede and that sooner or later she would break out, but I never expected against Asa-senpai that poor girl is already sick by herself! ç.ç |
lycosJul 27, 2012 9:53 AM
| who else thinnks kaede was acting like rena from higurashi?? |
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| Woah this dude is saint for being able to endure all of that for Kaede's sake when he was kid. Some might hate her but I feel sorry for Kaede. She has dedicated her everything to Rin and felt in love with him so much. She also tried to ignore her own pain in order to let Rin to be happy to the point she entered "psycho mode". On top of that Asa collapsed right after Kaede told her to die in her psycho mode making things even worse for everyone involved. Well that said i think that Asa is best match for Rin ATM but Kaede is not second in being potential perfect GF or wife. so far Sent with Mal Updater |
greenmartyOct 3, 2012 6:11 AM
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| Rin was really frustrating in this episode , I hated how he paid no attention to any of the other girls even Kaede who lives in the same house got ignored ,I dont blame her for going Psycho crazy on Asa's ass, All the other girls knew they had to share Rin but now Rin seems to have forgotten all about them, I mean if he just ate what she made for him she would have been fine but he had to be a total ass to her, I don't care about the past even tho what Rin did was nice it doesn't mean anything if i see him treating Kaede like some house maid , She hasn't even had a single date with him and now Asa is basically taking her position... Still those eyes freaked the hell out of me , I still think Rin X Asa is best but only if Rin actually thinks about the other girls feelings once in a while ,Plus Asa is the only normal one left except her heart problems ,I always get the feeling she is going to die when she has that heart attack like moment then i have a heart attack because she is one of my favorite characters in Shuffle (If somehow Rin choses Prim then I would be surprised XD she is more of a pet then a girl to Rin at this point) Can't wait for the next eps :D |
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| this rises a big question, is it love what Kade feels for Rin or is it obsession of paying her dept to him & guilt & obsession of taking care of him, i myself ton't think its love, she is to messed up to know what love is & to love some1, obsession is obsession & dose not allow u to fall in love cause that other feeling is 2strong & dose not let u fall in love cause all u think of is taking care of him & making him happy to pay ur dept & that leaves no room for love & if some1 takes away ur chance to pay ur dept like some1 takes him away from u, if he starts to date, then u show symptoms of jealousy & u'l cry & then people will think ur in love with him, so obsession in early stages looks like love, or like u start to fall in love, & people who are obsessed think that they are in love but they are not, i'm not psychologist so how to i know this SH :D, not sure :D maybe cause i watch documentary's sometimes i believe that Rin sees it that way to & that's why he has never seen her more as a sibling or childhood friend |
Sugram22Feb 1, 2013 9:56 AM
exLightning said: Rin was really frustrating in this episode , I hated how he paid no attention to any of the other girls even Kaede who lives in the same house got ignored ,I dont blame her for going Psycho crazy on Asa's ass, All the other girls knew they had to share Rin but now Rin seems to have forgotten all about them, I mean if he just ate what she made for him she would have been fine but he had to be a total ass to her, I don't care about the past even tho what Rin did was nice it doesn't mean anything if i see him treating Kaede like some house maid , She hasn't even had a single date with him and now Asa is basically taking her position... Still those eyes freaked the hell out of me , I still think Rin X Asa is best but only if Rin actually thinks about the other girls feelings once in a while ,Plus Asa is the only normal one left except her heart problems ,I always get the feeling she is going to die when she has that heart attack like moment then i have a heart attack because she is one of my favorite characters in Shuffle (If somehow Rin choses Prim then I would be surprised XD she is more of a pet then a girl to Rin at this point) Can't wait for the next eps :D u ton't blame her??? but u blame Rin??? have u forgotten What Kade did to Rin in past, how she bully'd him!!! yes Rin did lie to protect her but that no excuse for what she did!!! if anything this makes him a hero for doing it and enduring her abuse second Rin has never seen Kade more as Sister or childhood friend, like Rin was with Kade in this EP its normal relationship between brother & sister or childhood friend, so he did nothing wrong so SHUT UP :), when people start to date they start to ignore their family just like Rin did with Kade, well some times they ignore & 1 thing more coin has 2 sides & u see only 1 side, that means ur blind, i ton't know the reason why ur blind but u are!!! if anything this makes him a hero for doing and enduring her abuse & 3th, this anime wont have harem ending like in Tenchi Muyo! GXP were mane guy marries with all the girls who are in his group, he chooses only 1, ur mistaken if u think that its gonna have a harem ending like in GPX i feel bad for Kade, but i ton't think its love what she feels for Rin, read my post above to before replay if u want to replay cause it explains more about what i believe |
Sugram22Apr 22, 2023 10:29 AM
| Uhmm... I don't know which one to blame here whether Rin or Kaede. This turned into another School Days but this one is kinda confusing unlike School Days. And damn that cutter. I kinda felt it... |
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| Kaede is one crazy bitch, I was scared watching that flashback. I felt sorry for her before but now shes so damn unlikable. Asa is now, no doubt, the best girl. |
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| I actually always thought he was gonna choose kaede up until the last episode. I feel so bad for her ;( other than primula she's my favorite and wanted them to end up together. And now I see her crazy side and like her even more!!!! Even tho she is cray cray I think Rin is being so mean. Makes me sad :( |
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Konekoneko said: I actually always thought he was gonna choose kaede up until the last episode. I feel so bad for her ;( other than primula she's my favorite and wanted them to end up together. And now I see her crazy side and like her even more!!!! Even tho she is cray cray I think Rin is being so mean. Makes me sad :( u just hate Rin cause he caused pain to ur favorite char, other girls are in same boat as Kade, dose he has to just marry Kade when he loves Asa? no!!! that why ur hate is stupid, & u have forgotten how cruel Kade was with him in past, & he did not crew to hate her, no, he still cares for her, ur short sided, coin has 2 sides but u see only 1 side, & that's also why u will 1 day screw up ur friends love relationship or ur own relationship with friends, example u start to blame some1 before u have the full picture, mistake the kind u make here, but in Rin case u just ton't want to see cause ur favorite char is hurt & u close ur eye to the truth, my favorite is Asa, have i mentioned her?! NO!!! Rin is not my favorite, but i see the full picture, & also it takes time when a person realizes hes/hers feelings, Rin was also blind, did not see were it mite lead to if he lets Kade take care of him & wont but a stop to it sooner, so yes he could have avoided the pain, but also she wold have become mental like she already did sooner, maybe less pain, but still she wold have felt pain cause she cant repay to him for that cruelty she did to him my post above also explains some things |
Sugram22Oct 5, 2017 6:33 AM
| Kade was forceful & did not let him do anything in the house even when he wanted, he did rise the subject meany times, She forcefully rejects Rin's help cause shes obsessed, Rin's only flaw is that hes 2soft, he shod have peen forceful to in that matter Rin was happy & did not see what is going on with Kade & he did not notice that subconsciously made promise, its human like to be blind sometimes, its human flaw, we cant blame him for that, other people wont be blind at the same spot he was, but awry1 is blind at least once of a life time, humans are not flawless, that's also a reason i say that to hate Rin is wrong he did not treat Kade like personal maid, Kade forcefully became hes personal maid out of guilt & obsession of repaying him for what she did to Rin, & Rin did not have any say on this, guess u did not pay enough attention when u watched it i used word personal maid cause some say Rin was treading her like hes personal maid, & i already explained that Kade is fault on this, Kade never let Rin help her with chores i have seen this series 5times or more already so i have peen able to analyze their situation meany times & in different angles :) |
Sugram22Oct 3, 2013 4:20 AM
| After watching this episode, I am willing to bet $100 that Kaede will NOT be the one he ends up with(if it's not a harem ending). Most likely he will choose his senpai, Asa. Kaede is too psycho, so it is pretty reasonable that Rin would back away from her. Even from the beginning, I never felt that Kaede would be chosen, I mean she's more like a mother than a girlfriend. |
Zune_Dranei said: Sugram22 said: she seemed forceful because she still felt a lot of guilt from what she did in her child past, she realizes its impact and shes really sorry for it. everyone makes mistakes in their lives somewhere for kaede's situation other people have doen much worse then her but that's not the point, shes a troubled soul and needs help. or a hug whatever will make her feel loved. and let her know that everythings ok now. the world forgives her.....well I do anyway.Kade was forceful & did not let him do anything in the house even when he wanted, he did rise the subject meany times, She forcefully rejects Rin's help cause shes obsessed, Rin's only flaw is that hes 2soft, he shod have peen forceful to in that matter Rin was happy & did not see what is going on with Kade & he did not notice that subconsciously made promise, its human like to be blind sometimes, its human flaw, we cant blame him for that, other people wont be blind at the same spot he was, but awry1 is blind at least once of a life time, humans are not flawless, that's also a reason i say that to hate Rin is wrong he did not treat Kade like personal maid, Kade forcefully became hes personal maid out of guilt & obsession of repaying him for what she did to Rin, & Rin did not have any say on this, guess u did not pay enough attention when u watched it i used word personal maid cause some say Rin was treading her like hes personal maid, & i already explained that Kade is fault on this, Kade never let Rin help her with chores i have seen this series 5times or more already so i have peen able to analyze their situation meany times & in different angles :) not blaming Kade for anything, my point is people who hate Rin cause he rejected Kade are wrong & dumb |
| This is certainly the best episode in an otherwise Sub-Mediocre anime. No doubt Kaede is scary here. Its odd that she didn't go psycho mode when he went on dates with the other girls, but i guess this could indicate that Kaede is worried that Asa will steal him away from her, whereas with the others she wasn't that concerned. Either way a few good episodes does not make the anime worthwhile I'm afraid. |
| I actually felt sorry for Rin, having to put up with all that shit despite losing both of his parents too. In my opinion, he doesn't see Kaede as a romantic interest probably due to their past and what she put him through. He was left to feel uneasy & lonely in that household because of her and I don't think cleaning and cooking meals is enough to make up for what he went through, losing both of his parents & his friend going psycho on him hit him really hard back then. As for what she did to Asa? That's just cold, especially crossing out Asa's face on their pictures from Cupid Land or whatever it's called. |
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| On a slightly different note than her psychotic break, they kind of went hardcore on Rin neglecting Kaede this episode though. But I imagine that was to add more effect to her mental breakdown. |
| She was Mentally Broken Sins her mothers death, Rin lied when they were kids to cure her, to give her reason to live & it made her return to reality, but she was still broken, i just wonder after drama like that, why didn't her father take her to psychologist? it was clear she needs it, if it would be in real life then she would have gotten mental help from psychologist, guess its just anime logic LOL |
| Wow, this episode...Kaede seriously freaked me the fuck out. This episode did a fantastic job at exploring who Kaede is and why she's been so accommodating to Rin all of this time. It built up to Kaede's breaking point really well and the part where she lashed out at Asa was so intense, especially when Asa fell down the very moment she was told to die. I'll have to give Shuffle credit, I initially wrote Kaede off as the submissive archetype without ever really knowing anything about her, but now I can't help but feel for her despite how insane she is. It's also been shown throughout the show how Kaede overworks herself to live for Rin despite him not wanting her to push herself so I see her behavior in a completely new light. |
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| I don't know if I'm just too emotional, but when I saw that empty pot, I just was really in shock. |
| Dub = fake crap. Always. |
| I thought this episode was okay, I just wish it had been built up to better throughout the series. All of the girls' dramatic pasts seem to pop up without much foreshadowing which makes it seem to me like it comes out of nowhere. I think Kaede's character arc made more sense than Sia or Nerine's though. It's been obvious from the beginning that she cares for Rin but he kind of ignores her feelings and lets her hold on without respect for what will happen to her if he picks another girl. Yeah, he's told her she doesn't have to dote on him, but he's always done it very half-heartedly. He should've known he was setting her up to get hurt. Still, it seems like a leap to go from caring to psycho so quickly. Yes, I know they explained it all and it makes sense, it's just that from a storytelling perspective it was all dumped on the viewer at once. |
Sugram22 said: I think I Remember hearing somewhere that Japan has a stigma against the mentally ill,but even so this is just ridcuolus it is clear Kaede needs professional help.She was Mentally Broken Sins her mothers death, Rin lied when they were kids to cure her, to give her reason to live & it made her return to reality, but she was still broken, i just wonder after drama like that, why didn't her father take her to psychologist? it was clear she needs it, if it would be in real life then she would have gotten mental help from psychologist, guess its just anime logic LOL |
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| That was the first really good episode in this anime, Kade is a psycho O_O |
| This is a quite commented thread, it will take me some time to read it all... Well, now I know why there are so many recommendations between Shuffle and School Days. lol |
| Yandere mode activated, Damn! That girl needs psychiatric treatment ASAP! Poor Primula witnessing the uneasiness day by day... I hope Asa-senpai is ok. |
Roy_FockerAug 2, 2015 9:47 PM
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| I hate commenting on old threads but bro! This episode! I mean i kinda figured it was gonna happen likr this. But the whole childhood thing was pretty messed up. Its never your fault someone gets in an accident... and i seriously hated how rin was calm when he lost his whole family but kaede was flipping ballz when she lost one. yeah its sad when you lose someone dear to you but you weren't the only to lose someone you selfish prick. It also kinda made sense as to why rin didnt try to get closer to kaede. I mean it would be a good reason not to... I cant believe he thought it was safe to still live with someone who threatened your life once at the drop of a dime. If you think about it. At the point primula, although young, is the only sane choice. Everyone else has split personality and you never know when itll show up again. Prim fixed her problem so.... go loli route! Lool |
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| wow Rin went full dickhead in this episode. Motherf*cker didn't even say hi to her when he brought Asa to the house... I don't blame Kaede at all... There she is, cleaning up his room, washing his clothes, making food for him every single day, and this is what she gets?? She's being ignored since the 1st episode. GO KAEDE! I'm rooting for you. Ratohnhaketon said: I'll have to give Shuffle credit, I initially wrote Kaede off as the submissive archetype without ever really knowing anything about her, but now I can't help but feel for her despite how insane she is. It's also been shown throughout the show how Kaede overworks herself to live for Rin despite him not wanting her to push herself so I see her behavior in a completely new light. Indeed. I am very surprised by the shift that this anime took... Already knew that Kaede would turn yandere but this episode was done in such a way that there's no way I couldn't get taken by surprise. (:Sorry for the notification:) |
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| I really thought there wouldn't be 'jealousy' but .. it was more than that !! I dislike hiding important things since 'worry' just makes misunderstandings . Good episode . Man .. this was creepy , emotional and seemingly , interesting ~ . |
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| The series is getting really dark lol, yandere Kaede was very unexpected. |
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| I love where this is going. Of course everything is to be blamed on Rin MC. He acts like Makoto from School Days and he doesnt even care Kaede at all which leads Kaede turning into Yandere, LOL. What an idiot Rin taking Asa to Kaede house. That was an very stupid move you made there Makoto. *facepalm* I guess too much love will kill you is all I can say. This could compressed into 12 or 13 episodes though. 24 is a bit long. 3.5/5 |
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