Dungeon ni Deai wo Motomeru no wa Machigatteiru Darou ka Gaiden: Sword Oratoria Volume 12 Discussion

Playcool said:
Easily the best volume for this spin off, the scale for volume 12 was insane, the author was clever to make usage of Bell in the timeframe between vol15 and vol16 of the main series. (I read this volume in september so details a bit fuzy)

I kinda expected Filvis development to go this way, but that is more as in, I actually spoiled myself with pictures long ago before reading SO, so whatever.
Dyonisious though there were some scenes that really made him sketchy but others were it would be hard to suspect him, it is insane to think this madman gone this far just to cover his tracks.

Funny thing there are chapters called Final War, when that should be reverted for the very end of the series, but still it was quite fitting to what was happening, biggest cameos on a LN volume I can think of, so many characters showed up.
Seeing Lili being able to fill in the role of Finn was quite something...

Overall, reading this spin off had some pretty dull moments, but I also liked the opportunities to develop characters like Bete, in which his volume was a great read, and of course to see deeper in the dungeon, but it was kinda disappointing we never go further than 58-59, and that is from volume 4! In a essence this spin off suffered heavily from what the main series does, not enough dungeon exploration, and The Deep Levels were more interesting in volume 14 of the main series than this.

Seeing Filvis and her development along Lefiya's was a highlight for me, sure Aiz past in volume 9 was nice, and same for the Xenos arc from Loki familia perspective, but this last volume really ends it with IMPACT. Also really adored Filvis design, Elfs with black hair, red eyes and full of elegance?! GIVE ME MORE, seriously one of Danmachi best designs, along Wiene.

The whole Spirit plotline felt forced since the start, felt BULLSHIT, a way to ensure challenge to Loki's party, yet not having to explore more and more of the deeper levels, but I really loved the payoff with volume 11 and 12.
Filvis was a tragic character that felt refreshing to see, it is a very depressive conclusion, but I wont forget and kinda wanted to see Lefiya more in the main story.

It is sad to see this series tied up to JCstaff, because a better studios could have done a better S1, and maybe we could have seen some hope of someday seeing SO volume 12 adapted.

I do have to score this volume and the whole SO separatedly, first volume 11 was a low tier 9/10, something along the lines of 8.7, whereas I really felt volume 12 ascended to almost a 10, easily 9.2, still I would not say this is the best from the whole series, as I like the Xenos arc, vol14 and vol17 a lot too. if not more.
But outside that, these last two volumes outshone most of SO volumes that came out, to the point despite this epic conclusion, I still feel this spin off series, cant be rated higher than a 8/10, despite ending very strongly.

And ending is just a mater of saying since the author takes soo long to write volumes now, I dunno when volume 13 for this will be out, so will be putting it on hold for now.

An mostly 8/10 LN series with a rather explosive and emotional conclusion, with the ending still nowhere in sight.
(9.2/10 for this volume)

Chiex said:


Agree, the best volume it is in the side story. comparable to Vol 17 Main series.

Filvis conclusion leave a big impact to me. I think she will end differently if Lefiya doesn't hesitate to answer her question like Bell answer Leon's in Season 4 Anime. Also if Lefiya befriend with xenos, she will reach her own answer like aiz's ( is monster really a monster or a human with monster heart ?). well, Here we can see that Bell's answer and decision always seems "naive" but "warming" which is "ideal". aaaaaaaa, I want Filvis to be revived!!! where Fels' ressurection magic -_- LOL

Also I'm curious about the soul. we do know that Xenos have Soul which is increment each time they reincarnated. I wonder what happen to those so called "Creature" like Filvis, Olivas, etc, are they reincarnated in the dungeon because their soul is trapped in the dungeon or as god say return to heaven ? this will be a shocking development if they reincarnated in the dungeon as a Xenos.