Shiroi Suna no Aquatope Episode 21 Discussion

AkeZZZ said:
The island that Kukuru has visited seems to be Iejima.

ltz0108 said:


In the anime, they call it "Yameruna" which doesn't actually exist and translates to "don't quit".

The island itself takes a lot of inspiration from the real life Kuroshima, which is famous for its extremely large cow population as well as its sea turtle research center.

Judgment526 said:


Way to completely miss the point. I see people like you still fail to understand that when an employee fails to show up at work having not given advanced notice, this creates an extra burden for the employees left behind because there wasn’t sufficient time to arrange for someone to sub-in for the missing employee.

Judgment526 said:

I guess you have never worked before, if you’re spouting ignorant nonsense like this.

rsc-pl said:

I didn't even talk about this though. People are trashing Kukuru for 3 episodes already.

Fabienne said:
Everyone blaming Kukuru here simply has no heart.

it has been quite obvious that the job doesn't match with her abilities.
Kukuru likes animals and knows everything about them, marketing is something else entirely.yes,maybe she is too stupid for that job, those males pushing that position onto her are assholes, they only want to break her.no one ever asked her if she is ok with her job.

For her own good I want to see her getting fired.
Good luck with finding another obedient idiot.

4561236 said:

And she deserved every bit of it..!! (lol)

rsc-pl said:
Because you know, they feel mature this way. I mean there's no other explanation of this.
The other thing is that most people are growing up in societies that are teaching them how to be a perfect corpo slave (grading in schools or "learning useless things to be better then the rest = the most important thing to do" etc). Not many people are thinking and living differently, unfortunately.

rsc-pl said:

Lol, dude, Seriously. I finished college a long time ago (and from my point of view it was generally a wasted time). WTF are you even talking about? Whare I said that having goals is a bad thing? It just doesn't have anything to do with being best at everything and wasting your life on pointless neverending competition. And no, I won't change my mind. Scholar systems in most countries are created to mass produce scared, obedient people that don't ask questions and are living as they were instructed.
And I don't even understand why are you forcing your strange ideas on me. I never said anything bad or judgmental about people that chosen this way of living themselves. My first post was about these people who choose this patch and not they are blaming and trashing other people - Kukuru in this case (without even taking into consideration her situation) that don't follow their "safe", instructed way of living.

So, about you among others.
And no, she don't. Even a bit.

Consider following:
1. Her age (she just finished her high school)
2. Her passions and how she was completely torn off from them forced to do an office paper works instead working with animals (it's like forcing athlete to do orator's job).
3. Her new job, that was literally the opposite of her experience, abilities and knowledge.
4. Her shitty manager (or whatever it's called) that is trying to trash her since day 0 knowing that she has no idea what she should do or even how she supposed to start
5. Shitty corpo slave propaganda (I still hope that PA Works won't be turning this series into corpo slave success story, because - as I said in previous thread - they did a pretty wonderful job with their previous series like Sakura Quest, Hanasaku Iroha etc)
And many other things.

I mean, I don't even know how you can even think about blaming her. It's ridiculous.
But when I read 2nd part of your post (2nd quote) I made my mind and I won't be replying to you anymore. I just don't understand how you can be THIS wrong.

Teisatsu said:


I'll take your word for it, because I'm probably never going to understand those people's thoughts by myself.

And before all of those the large corporate lovers start guessing that I've never worked before, I can tell them that I have. A lot of years. Both in smaller colourful, and large soulless companies. But not in any work place that I've worked on, have I seen so bad middle management as in Tingarla, regarding putting 18-year old kids in wrong places, and give them too much independent work with no assistance and group assignments at all. I'm starting to guess that Suwa actually never have been in management before, because he does not seem to be aware of team work, nor the Japanese senpai/kouhai system where older employees lock after and educates the new younger employees.
Just look at "Senpai ga Uzai Kouhai no Hanashi", which for a not very serious nonbiri-show, at they least got that part right and realistic.

4561236 said:



Did Kukuru have a heart when she decided to ditch her job and friends??? Did she have a heart when said friends were worried sick for the girl???

People aren't criticising the character because they have "no heart", people are criticising the character because she is being a selfish and shitty person. But at least she feels remorse, which means she is aware she is being dumb, so that's something. She just needs to own up to it after messing it up.

I mean just imagine you have to make a group project with someone, and you and your buddy agree to do 50/50 each, so is easier and more convenient on both sides. You agree on a date to meet up and do the thing together because you have a deadline. Now, the day comes but your buddy doesn't show up. You try to get a hold of them, text them, call them, but no answer. Now you are stuck in a situation where you have to take on the project all by yourself or get someone else to help you out. Either way it sucks and you got screwed. THIS, is what Kukuru created when she decided to bail like she did, and THIS is what people have a problem with.

If she went "well fuck it i deserve a break" and called faking being sick, nobody would complain (or they would, but more on the lines of how she still can't face shit head on or whatever and not about how she is still an immature and selfish person). But, well, this wasn't the case. Suwa explains the situation to Fuuka in a pretty straightforward way: Kukuru had responsibilities and they were in the middle of a project he entrusted her with. Where did that trust take him? To Kukuru skipping because she is having a big sad and can't take failure and someone lying to his face. No wonder he gave no fucks when Fuuka talked to him.

And "those males"... Smh. Where do I even begin? So would you rather have them be women, then it would be okay??? Way to be sexist and having double standards lol...

One of those "males" is her grandfather, the very reason she is even able to get close to an aquarium in the first place and one of the people she quite literally owes her entire life to. He is doing this because Kukuru apparently can't even accept being told she sucks at giving massages. She needs to grow and struggle a bit. She can't be coddled forever, that's messed up.

Realistically, Kukuru can't be fired. Because she is got that position out of pure privilege, and nothing else. However, If she were to get fired, rest assured they can just hire a graphic design graduate or literally anyone else who would actually want the job. Is not that they can't, they are doing this because of Kukuru's connections. They wouldn't need "luck" and certainly they would be better off with a smart and competent worker. But alas.

Tbf tho, Kukuru has demonstrated that she can do the job, she just doesn't want to do it and is acting like her little kid self in that one flashback. To me is wild she does this shit because she herself admitted this is temporary, so I don't get why can't she just suck it up and do it instead of sabotaging herself.

4561236 said:


Just saying, but Suwa actually gave Kukuru instructions before she went bananas and ditched the ship. Same with trusting her with the new project etc etc.

Teisatsu said:
It seems like no one here knows that there is quite a few differences between Okinawan culture and mainland Japanese culture. Even though centralist propaganda teaches about "homogeneous people" in curtain countries, the truth is a little more complicated. Okinawa is more laid back than mainland Japan, and obviously Suwa is an outsider from the mainland. Therefore it might well be a double culture crash here with both the sizes at the companies, and the (for native Okinawans) "foreign" harsh culture.

For the part that senpais can treat kouhais like shit: Of course they can. But that will ultimately affect badly upon the company. Why would these senpais want to make thing difficult for the whole company?

Of course Kukuru is not doing a good job. Teenagers fresh out of high school tend to perform rather badly when they are left alone in her situation, with poor guidance. What's new? It was very wrong to run away like that. If she'd been bit older and wiser (maybe in her early 20's), she hopefully would've handed in her resignation before leaving. If they still refused to give her a position where she would contribute greatly to the company.

Fabienne said:


Sure, he said use Google XD
Don't try to defend the bad "actor" when there is nothing positive about him ,
they didn't even give him 5 minutes of backstory, we don't even know what he is typing all the time.

Fabienne said:
Lol this anime is surprisingly polarizing, isn't it?
I wonder if the people at PA Works had that intention of this.

4561236 said:

Yes, we all know Kukuru is young and fucks things up because she is young and has no experience and was coddled a good chunk of her life and is young. Glad we are on the same page on that. Are you saying she should be allowed to do whatever tf she wants, free of consequences, just because she is young??? Personally I disagree.

RobertBobert said:
So, the whole show should be taken as a metaphor for the dangers of psychological immaturity and lack of support from friends if you yourself do not make an effort or what?

Badalight said:


I have no idea what show you're watching.

Aversa said:
Well Kukuru needed to clear her mind tho she should have told the others beforehand especially her boss.
Anyway her time on that island was nice tho the truck they where traveling in was pretty badly affected by the sea climate.
Hopefully the punishment for Kukuru won't be to bad when she gets back, she will have some explaining to do tho.

Shikkakku said:


What do you mean about the truck? I guess I missed something.

Anyways, great episode as always. I feel Kukuru so much. How empty and pointless it can all feel. But I think she should've informed the others still.

Aversa said:
The small pick up truck they where traveling in, it was really rusted which is pretty common in a sea climate.
Cars don't handle the salt air well which is why they start to rust