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UkRs said: This was such a heavy episode.. i don't even know what to say.. someone spoiled me that Rudeus mom disappears.. but this is a lot more worse.. damn.. Paul is in a worse state.. dude just lost his wives. children and home and than started beating his son.. which isn't right.. but MAKES SENSE.. i do wish Paul gets better.. i think elinalise mentioned abt rudy's mother disappearance in ep 2 i think |
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More than one reunion, little sister Norn isnt happy either |
| When Rudeus starts crying and the camera blurs like his eyes it was so beautifully done |
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| I know that Paul is depressed and desperate here but that was far too much out of the line, especially since they just reunited. Also expecting Rudy to read a message board almost 'coincidentally' just like how Paul and Rudy coincidentally met is stupid. And at the end of the day, survival takes priority over rescue missions. |
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Does not help that this is the first time she's actually seen Rudeus since like she was a baby. And her first memory would be seeing her brother beat the shit out of the father that she loves so much and was by his side for many years as everyone else in their family disappeared. Not the happiest reunion and sight to see from her perspective. Feels bad. In her eyes, he's a monster. |
| For me, the worst part here is the others' opinion of Rudeus, and especially Norn. He could always clear the misunderstanding with Paul later (that bastard, Rudeus should have punched him more). But being seen as the bad guy in front of strangers, and once again: especially Norn, it's just the worst. |
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| This is one of the few TV series, including Monogatari, where there are multiple (at least 2) OPs in one (20+ episode) season. I'm expecting more OPs in Part 2 since I noticed that a new OP is played if the setting is a new place. Currently the best episode this season. The next episode will potentially surpass this episode as being the best. |
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| I didn’t see that coming, but I loved it. I really thought they’d meet up with Roxy. |
animejas said: Does not help that this is the first time she's actually seen Rudeus since like she was a baby. And her first memory would be seeing her brother beat the shit out of the father that she loves so much and was by his side for many years as everyone else in their family disappeared. Not the happiest reunion and sight to see from her perspective. Feels bad. In her eyes, he's a monster. yeah its not the best first impression for Rudy towards Norn, this is really the first memory shes gonna have of him |
| Yeah, they tottaly nailed it in this week's episode of mushoku tensei, this is more or less what I expected with the reunion of Rudeus with Paul and his little sister Norn. From the pressure and tension that Rudeus was under, to the image of Paul dragged to non healthy habits such an alcoholism and lack of sleep caused by the dispair that cataclysm. They toned down the fights but I get they had to to make everything fit within the episode. I hope next episode shows us what Eris and Rujerd were doing in the meanwhile, it's kind of a relevant thing for both cases, there's other Rudeus relative that we should meet but before Dead End leaves Millis, I wonder if they'll show her. |
| No tomo malas decisiones, solo me gusta apoyar causas perdidas. Disfruté Mayoiga, Ou-sama Game, Evil or Live, Mirai Nikki, Big Order, Arifureta, Ex-Arm, Tesla Note, Shuumatsu no Harem y Platinum End nope les falle con esa, lo siento pero todos tenemos nuestros límites. Así de jodido es mi gusto en anime, ¡Y estoy pinche orgulloso de ello!  |
| When his own sister who he haven't seen since she was a baby treated him like an enemy... That hit Hard |
| I wasn't looking forward for this episode, mainly because of much it made me tear up in the manga (LN probably did a better job) but the anime was amazing! The 4th opening is surely a banger. Everything from her is straight up gass. They finally reached Millis Continent, that took a while but they arrived safely. The conversation with his dad was harsh, after following a kidnapping. The panties reminded me of Shimoneta xD That was hilarious tho. Funny and all until they met eye to eye.. Paul doesn't look like Paul, he looks like a dead, old and homeless person who's over the top from drinking too much alcohol. Rudeus is certainly not at fault but I understand Paul's reaction. Even though it's harsh, it's reality. The anime did a great job at expressing their emotions and the atmosphere passed perfectly with the scenario. Norn has grown up to quite a young lady. Paul's only family with him was Norn, he must have felt nervous as hell looking for his family. Well, Rudeus has Eris to comfort him and that was wholesome as hell. Sadly, it's not enough to make up for everything that has happend so far. A really, really good episode. |
   “You yourself have to change first, or nothing will change for you!” ' |
| Rudeus got humbled fr. Brudi was speechless to every question after that reality check. |
| I'm blown away again. That was just one hell of a powerful and visceral episode. This is nearly on par with the 86 episode the other day, and along with it, one of the best episodes of the year. The drama, the buildup, the voice acting, the heavy atmosphere, the battle of right and wrong between both sides. I love how pretty much everything here connected back to the 1st cour...in particular, where Rudeus promised to be a good big brother to Norn...only to have her now opposing him, and additionally with Eris being angry at Paul for not being a good father (kudos to best girl hugging Rudeus to comfort him). It really sucks; Rudeus was simply retelling his ordeals of his 1.5 year long trip in positive highlights because he wanted to have a heartwarmed reunion with his father, but the misunderstandings with him not considering about the status and well-being of the rest of the family really just took things out of hand. Paul wasn't in the best mental condition to really make it any better, either....dude has been literally reduced to a drunken hobo. All the dramatic hell storm genuinely made me forget about the hilarious "Shimoneta" moment where Rudeus was trying to disguise himself with panties he accidentally found while trying to save a child from kidnappers. The new OP song was great, too. I think that's 6 total songs for this series by the same singer. Genuinely gave a mixture of vibes from Aria and Wandering Witch. I would talk more about how fucking amazing this week's episode was, but the next one will probably be just as great considering it'll likely be from Paul's POV to make everything here come full circle. Until next week, I'll revel in the masterfulness that is both 86 and Mushoku Tensei this weekend. |
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aussie2486 said: I know the show is adapting the LN, but I preferred the manga version of the Rudy/Paul reunion. Maybe it's because I knew what was coming, but it felt way more emotional in the manga and in the anime it felt a little flat to me. The same here, but sure being spoiled by another media have some impact. Probably an anime-only who read the chapter now will fell the same about the manga. And novel readers are not people lol Since there is a long time since i've read the manga, my feel is that the anime was better in the 1st part, the same during their meeting, and the Eris part was better in the paper (better for whose are annoyed with tsundere gags) |
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| Oh my word, I did not expect to see Paul so soon again and my god he is a WRECK. This episode kind of confirmed for me that the Mana Calamity was much bigger than we initially thought. Zenith, Aisha and Lilya all have gone missing as well and got separated from Paul and Norn. That talk between Rudy and Paul was incredibly hard to watch, not only was Paul far from sober, Rudy really did sugarcoat his journey a bit too much, without reading the room or understanding the situation and yes, Paul is a cheating scumbag, but to call him out for that while you don't know what's going on was a bit uncalled for. The whole situation was not ideal.. I hope with next episode title being "reunion", that they can talk it out together and plan something together so they can both find and rescue the rest of their family. Eris was too adorable trying to cheer up Rudy at the end. She is trying so hard, ganbare Eris! |
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| This is what I wanted. This is what Im watching Mushoku Tensei for. Great how both Mushoku Tensei and 86 are having hype at the same time. But this time M.T far exceeded my expectations. These two are without a doubt the best anime of this season. This episode was simply amazing. |
| Maaaan Rudy fucked Paul up. That Demon Eye is OP af. Norn is a cutie. |
| great OP once again, Also loved the episode. The Father-son conversation was heavy and gave him many worries. Eris at the end was cute |
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| Help me here because my memory is failing me. I would have sworn that Rudeus didn't know that the event that teleported him was a widespread event, much less something that affected other people than Eris, Ghishlaine and him. The subs kept referencing to it as the "Mana Disaster" (rough translation from my language), even in the Guild's board notice, conviniently until today's episode. So, was that information supposed to magically click in his mind? Has he been shown to dismiss this information as heavily as implied by his guilt trip? Cause right now that detail just looks like bad writing to me. Rudeus being judged by everyone, even his sister, yikes. Monkey guy says bye. |
| Paul still trash. Rudeus finds himself stranded in a world he's seen little of (unlike Paul). He has to watch over an immature girl that wouldn't have been able to help herself if she'd been alone. He needs to fix and manage the behavior of a dangerous and troublesome companion. He must deal with financial issues to get back home. What does Paul do? Instead of being happy for the fact Rudeus is safe, he fucking blames him for not burdening himself with the fate of an entire village. As if that were his responsibility in the first place. On top of that, Paul scolds Rudeus for being worried about someone far more likely to be vulnerable and in trouble than his mother. This clown has it all backwards. And considering all the wrong shit he's done in his life, I'm surprised he has the nerve to judge his son (who did nothing wrong to begin with). What a shitty father. |
FlamepriesTOct 31, 2021 11:22 AM
DKDiabloLicht said: Btw why did he puke when he said Paul??? Basically realizing what situation he was in as he was just kind of waffling in his monologue when it comes to thinking about what to do and then the gravity of the situation just hit him suddenly, especially since Paul did point out some things that Rudeus was in the wrong for, even though in this situation, both were in the right and the wrong (Paul a bit more wrong than Rudeus from my personal standpoint). The thought of confronting him, Norn and the others there after what happened made him feel nauseous, and depressed after since he sort of lost the drive to do anything after. |
MegamiRem said: Well damn it took only a moment for everything to fall apart. It's sad to see what has become of Paul but he's also in the wrong. It's way to much to expect that level of rational thinking from a 12 year old kid. Won't say I dun see where he's coming from but he's clearly in the wrong here. Now before anyone says Rudeus is not a 12 year old cause he got reincarnated my ans is this, first Paul doesn't know that and second he was a socially abused neet in his past life so he's got it worse as clearly shown in this episode once again. Damn this episode hit hard. Thou it was sweet to see Eris trying to comfort Rudeus. Also the new OP is very gentle. I could just be interpreting my own view on this in here so what I'm saying might not be true. But to me it clearly looks like that Paul thinks of Rudy differently then you would with children usually because of how he grew up, all these scenes where they talk about him never crying and being special to other children in many regards. Also the scene where Paul tries to scold him, but Rudy arguing and pretty much winning by being rational and reasonable. So Paul probably forgot that Rudy is just as much a kid as others and isn't really able to make the best and most rational choices. What also nailed that opinion of mine down even further is the scene where Rudy is starting to tear up while beating Paul and Paul saying that Rudy never looked at him like that (clueless not knowing what to do being completely helpless most likely, also just an assumption I make here) So in short, Pauls judgement is clouded because of past interactions with Rudy, his mental and physical downfall over the years, being drunk and hearing how Rudy in his drunk opinion was "goofing off". I rest my case. Edit: Oh and because I didn't comment yet I'm gonna add this. I have anime that I like more then Mushoku (but god damn Mushoku is getting there quick) but this Episode to me felt like it was going by faster then any other shows episode I ever watched, respect. |
| Holy shit what an episode. We finally see Paul after so long, and he looks terrible. Then the argument between him and Rudy in the bar was intense af. Someone else mentioned it earlier in the thread, but it's pretty amazing how it never crossed my mind that Rudy didn't go out of his way to search for survivors until Paul brought it up in this episode. It slipped not just Rudy's mind, but mine (and I'm sure others') as well. Eris being awkward trying to comfort Rudy was wholesome lol, sometimes a hug is just all a guy needs. |
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Venumidas said: MegamiRem said: Well damn it took only a moment for everything to fall apart. It's sad to see what has become of Paul but he's also in the wrong. It's way to much to expect that level of rational thinking from a 12 year old kid. Won't say I dun see where he's coming from but he's clearly in the wrong here. Now before anyone says Rudeus is not a 12 year old cause he got reincarnated my ans is this, first Paul doesn't know that and second he was a socially abused neet in his past life so he's got it worse as clearly shown in this episode once again. Damn this episode hit hard. Thou it was sweet to see Eris trying to comfort Rudeus. Also the new OP is very gentle. I could just be interpreting my own view on this in here so what I'm saying might not be true. But to me it clearly looks like that Paul thinks of Rudy differently then you would with children usually because of how he grew up, all these scenes where they talk about him never crying and being special to other children in many regards. Also the scene where Paul tries to scold him, but Rudy arguing and pretty much winning by being rational and reasonable. So Paul probably forgot that Rudy is just as much a kid as others and isn't really able to make the best and most rational choices. What also nailed that opinion of mine down even further is the scene where Rudy is starting to tear up while beating Paul and Paul saying that Rudy never looked at him like that (clueless not knowing what to do being completely helpless most likely, also just an assumption I make here) So in short, Pauls judgement is clouded because of past interactions with Rudy, his mental and physical downfall over the years, being drunk and hearing how Rudy in his drunk opinion was "goofing off". I rest my case. Edit: Oh and because I didn't comment yet I'm gonna add this. I have anime that I like more then Mushoku (but god damn Mushoku is getting there quick) but this Episode to me felt like it was going by faster then any other shows episode I ever watched, respect. still an L for paul but a huge dub for bringing that girl lol |
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123moh555 said: Dunno i prefer the manga version when they adapt the reunion scene I dont know about the LN, but in the manga that guy Gisu had a previous conversation with him acknowledging Rudeus did a lot (maybe manga original -not in the anime) Then the manga skiped all the kidnapping misuderstanding (anime did better, Gisu giving the pantsu as a gift was too cringe in the manga -also we had action in this episode, and boobs) The meeting with Paul was almost the same dialogue, except that in the manga we was hearing more the inner Rudeus, he didn't wanted to say that about Paul cheating his mother, but he was already angry. Manga had more screentime for Norn in this scene, she even used healing magic in Paul (LN boring readers would complain lol) And finally the end was completely different. Rudeus left the guild in shock, running to the nearby decks. Then Eris and Ruijerd found him, he explained what happened and this was an important detail to me: Chapter 35  If you guys can remember of Rudeus 10 years old party at Sauros mansion, Eris and everybody got moved by the fact Paul didn't attend. Rudeus don't see his father since he was 7. Unlike the manga, in this episide Eris just followed the Tsundere trope. . |
Rob7Oct 31, 2021 3:10 PM
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| How the hell is Rudy in the wrong?! He's a child and he was teleported to a place he didn't know with the responsibility of not just keeping himself alive but Eris too. Of course his only thought would be getting home safely! Plus, how the hell was he supposed to know to find the others?! Paul is such an asshole! |
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| I kind of get the argument that "he is just a kid", but to be honest, it doesn't have much to do with it. Paul is wrong regardless of Rudy being a kid or not. I guess most people haven't realized, and Paul himself doesn't quite get it at this point, but the Demon Continent is literally crazy dangerous. Paul himself might've probably died if he got teleported there, especially having to take care of Norn. Rudeus is a mage which by itself is a disadvantage, and got teleported to one of the most dangerous places in the Mushoku Tensei world. Just surviving is a big deal, he of course had no way or time to be thinking that the disaster might've affected other people. Plus, even if he had searched the Demon Continent, he would've found no one and just wasted time. Anyone that got teleported to the Demon Continent died almost immediately after all, it's just that kind of place. |
| By far the best episode yet. The twist flipped his world upside down. It's no longer just escorting Eris, but also finding his missing family. |
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| Man...Paul was real scum there...OP was so good this anime really is unique... Also, Eris is becoming lovable than ever |
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| Great episode! Rudeus wearing and even licking them panties was really funny xD. And he also met Paul as well! Their reunion wasn’t that happy however as Paul got angry with him thinking Rudeus would be doing something to help with the teleportation incident. Looking forward to the next episode! |
| AISHITERU...REM! |
| I wouldn't blame anyone in the bar, especially Norn for having a bad impression of Rudeus. From their perspective it just looks like the son just beat up a hard working Dad that's trying to help his village. Fuck man I don't know because both sides are at fault. |
RT_exe said: Man...Paul was real scum there...OP was so good this anime really is unique... Also, Eris is becoming lovable than ever Is Paul really the scumbag here? Rudeus just barged in on an operation, never got full details and messed up Paul's operation. He asks why his son wasn't competent enough to make contact with his family nor try to question the safety of others. The episode even opens with Rudy saying that he hasn't even considered thinking about his family for a while because of the adventure he has been going on. The only fault Paul has was expecting too much from his son that showed a lot of potential from the last time he saw him. |
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