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| Probably the best episode yet. The moment Rudeus felt the cold stares from everyone at the bar, I could feel them too. At least he now has Eris and Rujerd so he's not alone like in his previous life. The atmosphere was really amazing. |
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| Depressed Paul > Horny Paul Also Rudeus, Shimoneta fan confirmed! "Family drama" episode for this week. It's been a while since we got one of these. Anyways, as for the reunion between MC and Paul, I'm not gonna defend Rudeus since he really should have tried to communicate with his family after the mana incident but Paul was totally projecting his own failures at finding his wife, his lover and other child on his son here. Also this: Yaggamy said: Paul episode 5: You can't come home, write letters, or make any form of contact with your family for five years. Paul episode 16: Why didn't you write??? ... In the end, they were both in the wrong but some of Paul's claims towards Rudeus sure sounded quite illogical to me. |
| This episode was kind of depressing to watch since it showed how even when you think that you're doing your best, there will always be others expectations of you to do even better. And knowing them itself could crush you. |
| Rudeus obviously watched Goblin Slayer and Shimoneta prior to getting isekaid. |
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Harem_lover94 said: I don't know if I'm losing my mind but these people really don't know how to write a story. >Rudy gets caught by the "kidnappers" because he's too excited over Panties, and now will lick panties even in a life and death situation, Rudy is strong at this point, but as we have seen so many times in the past, he's not good against an actual swordsman and HE KNOWS that, there's no reason for him to have such a cavalier attitude towards actual combat. First of all, that lady he fighting is not any strong like Eris or Garus level at all. Rudeus had his forseight eyes that can basically read all her move like a book and for his attitude he just want to messing with her. If she pose a threat then that’d be a different story. >>Rudy doesn't immediately ask his father about the family and why he looks like complete shit getting drunk so far away from home, roving around with a band. We understand that Rudy is not a normal 12 year old, but even a loser like him would have formed some attachment to his 2nd family. Especially since he drooled over them all the time anyway. He didn’t drool over his mom only his maid check your fact at start of episode 1. He say that he didin’t feel anything toward his mother despite how pretty she is. Watch again did Rudeus had time to asked Paul when he keep question him and blame Rudy for thing that he not know of? >Rudy couldn't recognize his old bully even though it had only been a year and a half since he had met him, nor is he able to recognize his father even though it really hasn't been that long. It’s not 1 and a half you dimwit did you forget the time he spend at Eris house(>2 years)?? >Rudy can't have a decent conversation with his own father, nor does he ask what the message was about immediately after he finds out that there was a message that he missed, and instead says "message?????" as if he is unaware that the concept of messages exist. Just for the sake of having a big reveal later, the conversation sounds stupid, like a bunch of AI robots talking. People are not this passionate in public settings, especially someone like Rudy, to start having a fight just because of silly misunderstandings, not to mention that Rudy doesn't recognize his father's figure, stance and fighting style despite spending YEARS being trained by him when he was attacked earlier. OMG isn’t that the last time he saw Paul is like 3 years and a half? And to be clear the stance he using to attack Rudy is not swordstyle he teaching Rudy at all also Rudy did mention that he feel nostalgic from Paul but the image he had and what he saw is very different, Paul in his memory wasn’t a drunkard. Sheesh when you try to talk to sombody and they keep that aggressive attitude and keep attacking you ofc you would get emotional espically if it come from family. Unless you never talk to anyone like that I don’t understand how you don’t know such basic conversation. A bunch of AI robots talking is just ask and answer they do not mock anyone nor punch anyone in the face when they can’t talk back. If you didn't notice the face expression of the character and the disappointed voice of Paul then I have nothing to say to you anymore >we are told that Rudy could have actually sent a letter in the last port but CHOSE not to do so, when the entire point of the journey at this point is to get home, we thought he had no way to communicate since he was on the demon continent but we were not told before now that he had the chance to send a letter and simply "forgets to send a letter", KNOWING that Eris is so important that AN ENTIRE ARMY would be sent to help him if he just sends a letter and STILL CHOOSES NOT TO GET IN TOUCH. Again with misinformation as soon as Rudeus arrived he come and pickup Ruijerd and then got kidnapped to beastman village and stay there for 3 MONTHS? How could he sent a letter in beastman village? Isn’t that the first thing he arrived Milliston is sending a letter to his family? Oh and you poor thing sending letter doesn’t mean to get immediate respond for the letter to deliver would take at least 2 or 3 months from Milliston to arrive Rudy village at that time Rudy and co would already back home. It’s imply that he try to send letter to his family while he escort Eris to her house. Fun fact when Roxy sending letter to Rudy she had to write 7 copy of the same letter in case something happens and only a few that could come through so if he want to safely sending letter he'd had to write the same amount if not more based on the distance and risk. So yeah it's very tedious and time-consuming >The party is comfortable enough to leave each other and walk around alone, knowing that they almost always get into trouble when they do, which is also a problem when the entire team is so overpowered that they HAVE TO BE ALONE for something interesting to happen, but you can see that something wrong with happen from a mile off as the writers think of a reason to spread the party thin. But it makes for predictable writing where I'm always waiting for something to happen, instead of being introduced to situations naturally. Which part of that is force? Rudy stay back to write letter why Eris go out and do quest and training that what they always do, isn’t it? Predictable? Don’t make me laugh you contradicting yourself you want introduced to situation naturally but in order to do that something had to happen bruh that not predictable that basic writing you entitle people!! >His sister EXPLODED in growth in a year and a half. That did NOT look like a 2 year old child, or even a 3 year old. And there's no way she's older than that. Again this guys didn’t notice any detail at all and claim the show didn’t metion bruh. 1 Years he stay with her and then 2 years at Eris house another 1 and a half when Rudy and Eris travelling so basically she nearly or over 5 years old now!!! smh Jesus, please, You embarrassing yourself at this point. Try to be at least checking the fact before saying anything. |
NhtDesuNov 1, 2021 2:25 AM
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| What a good episode it was <3 I blame his father because he can't blame Rudeus after one year he hasn't see him. It was so cruel |
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Yohanlie23 said: eliecher said: I don't know why people are saying that Philip would send an army for Eris. I did not get the impression that Eris's was that important to send an army for one person. I thought they could send at most a search party of 15 or so people. Also I got the feeling that Eris wasn't that important to Philip as he offered to tie her up and offer her to Rudeus in exchange for his help. So even if he could send an army, he would still send only a small part of soldiers. Also, I would like to bring it to notice that communication will be painstakingly difficult and dangerous. As if Rudeus gives their location in a letter, they become a bit vulnerable as the letter may be intercepted. Even if communication is successful, its not like they will stay still at single place (ignore beast village thing as then delivering letters will also be impossible). Due to the propagation delay of the message, there will be huge confusions. I am not saying Rudeus thought of these points but I am saying these work in favour of his actions. I wanna add some opinion too How come Rudy can send mail When we can see how hard people crossing continent... You must be very-very important person to get express mail delivered specialy for you from demon to human continent This communication problem will be one of the obstacle on the future in WN when rudeus must giving information very fast And its still in the same continent And just a very small thing on top of that, while Dead End was becoming a known name among the Adventurer's Guild (even Roxy knew about them from the first episode this season) when hearing about Eris and Ruijerd's names, Rudeus did not go by his own name, so Roxy and let's say other people like Paul who would go to those guilds, would not have heard about him either through there so no information can go back and forth even through just rumors through guilds about Rudeus himself. On top of how tough it actually was for Rudeus and Eris to survive the Demon Continent and how Ruijerd's help really kept them safe by the end, so communication via mail would not be easy to go through whatsoever, and he would not know where this should go at all. |
Harem_lover94 said: I don't know if I'm losing my mind but these people really don't know how to write a story. >Rudy gets caught by the "kidnappers" because he's too excited over Panties, and now will lick panties even in a life and death situation, Rudy is strong at this point, but as we have seen so many times in the past, he's not good against an actual swordsman and HE KNOWS that, there's no reason for him to have such a cavalier attitude towards actual combat. >>Rudy doesn't immediately ask his father about the family and why he looks like complete shit getting drunk so far away from home, roving around with a band. We understand that Rudy is not a normal 12 year old, but even a loser like him would have formed some attachment to his 2nd family. Especially since he drooled over them all the time anyway. >Rudy couldn't recognize his old bully even though it had only been a year and a half since he had met him, nor is he able to recognize his father even though it really hasn't been that long. >Rudy can't have a decent conversation with his own father, nor does he ask what the message was about immediately after he finds out that there was a message that he missed, and instead says "message?????" as if he is unaware that the concept of messages exist. Just for the sake of having a big reveal later, the conversation sounds stupid, like a bunch of AI robots talking. People are not this passionate in public settings, especially someone like Rudy, to start having a fight just because of silly misunderstandings, not to mention that Rudy doesn't recognize his father's figure, stance and fighting style despite spending YEARS being trained by him when he was attacked earlier. >we are told that Rudy could have actually sent a letter in the last port but CHOSE not to do so, when the entire point of the journey at this point is to get home, we thought he had no way to communicate since he was on the demon continent but we were not told before now that he had the chance to send a letter and simply "forgets to send a letter", KNOWING that Eris is so important that AN ENTIRE ARMY would be sent to help him if he just sends a letter and STILL CHOOSES NOT TO GET IN TOUCH. >The party is comfortable enough to leave each other and walk around alone, knowing that they almost always get into trouble when they do, which is also a problem when the entire team is so overpowered that they HAVE TO BE ALONE for something interesting to happen, but you can see that something wrong with happen from a mile off as the writers think of a reason to spread the party thin. But it makes for predictable writing where I'm always waiting for something to happen, instead of being introduced to situations naturally. >His sister EXPLODED in growth in a year and a half. That did NOT look like a 2 year old child, or even a 3 year old. And there's no way she's older than that. Jesus, please, take a class on story writing. I'll pay for it. Send me your address and I'll enroll you into a writing class if you're someone who makes the anime. Congratulations, you win the price for most brain cells lost in this entire comment section! Imagine calling out bad storytelling when it looks like you missed 95% of the story. |
| I had been waiting for this episode so badly and it turned out to be the best so far |
| Oh my, this episode really hurt to watch. I thought its gonna be a happy reunion moment but naah :( |
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animejas said: Yohanlie23 said: I wanna add some opinion too How come Rudy can send mail When we can see how hard people crossing continent... You must be very-very important person to get express mail delivered specialy for you from demon to human continent This communication problem will be one of the obstacle on the future in WN when rudeus must giving information very fast And its still in the same continent And just a very small thing on top of that, while Dead End was becoming a known name among the Adventurer's Guild (even Roxy knew about them from the first episode this season) when hearing about Eris and Ruijerd's names, Rudeus did not go by his own name, so Roxy and let's say other people like Paul who would go to those guilds, would not have heard about him either through there so no information can go back and forth even through just rumors through guilds about Rudeus himself. On top of how tough it actually was for Rudeus and Eris to survive the Demon Continent and how Ruijerd's help really kept them safe by the end, so communication via mail would not be easy to go through whatsoever, and he would not know where this should go at all. That's really true. This ain't an age where even just teleprompting or radio existed. Long distance communication was essentially nonexistent sans letters, and those take a long while or even never make it, depending on shipping and handling :P |
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| All of you are forgetting something crucial, which is where he was before the teleportation. How the hell would he know that besides the capital where he was, the same phenomenon happened in the village where he was born? Since he saw the "explosion" of the capital's gate, he doesn't have 4D vision that can see the entire planet at the same time.  |
ZeroDownNov 4, 2021 10:28 AM
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| I don't understand the crowd's complaint about Rudeus not being a eunuch. For me it's more disgusting to have a cherry-boy character who does everything to avoid women like the usual characters in Japanese manga. "Oh, but he's 40 years old" and by chance at 40, men become eunuchs? any man who could reset his body and bring his consciousness to that body would go out eating all the women in front of him, because he would know what actions he shouldn't do, and most of the relationships with girls you will only get for certain age. if you think that being older/experienced in life makes you a bad person that will harm others you have serious problems. It would be more honest if you just told yourself "I don't like ugly guys hooking up with pretty girls, kill ugly guys." But don't blame it on age. The guys talk like he's a rapist, since he's just shown the girls he likes that he's sexually interested and knowledgeable. After you acquire knowledge about sex, you will always be sex hungry, the difference is that he doesn't treat it as a bad thing. Calm down with this false morality, flirting with girls is not a crime you are not compromising the integrity of their bodies, harassing and stalking girls who are crimes do not confuse the acts, he has never even touched a girl without their permission. Paul is the alpha male you wanted Rudeus to be from noble family, athletic, and fucked all the women he knew before getting married . And does that make him a nice guy? Regardless of whether he was an unemployed fat person, or an eater like Paul, I can't stand people complaining about his libido, it's very politically correct and I very much doubt that they wouldn't do the same thing he enjoyed since he was a child, having already known about sexuality. Paul proves that your problems is not with Rudeus' libido, as he is the real guy who ate the most and harassed women in this tale. And why are you complaining that he was a "loser"? What is it to be a loser? In japan it works like this -Son says: "dad i'm being beaten at school" Dad says: "fuck it's not my problem, japanese society decided that when you get beaten you have to keep your mouth shut until the aggressor gets tired of beating you." If he was unemployed, the fault is also the family was not able to give him an adequate education guiding him through the adversities of the job market when he grew up. In other words, he had a shitty family, and that reality doesn't go away, that's why he didn't really care about that concept of family. I feel sorry for people who are children of modern couples who throw their child into the world and put them in the government-controlled school and think that's right. I live in a third world country, where a person with a normal job doesn't get enough to eat and have a house, or have an education, you can only choose one if you live alone. And I know that in the first world people like that are called loser. Unemployment exists. discrimination exists and it has consequences for people. he is like that because instead of teaching him and helping him with his weaknesses, they preferred to punch him in the face and say "turn around". Life is not an amusement park, there are people who are very lucky in life, and there are people who are just normal. Stop complaining for the MC a normal person and not a gifted one. But I know this is just your excuse, your real problem is that he was ugly fat and had the chance to get his life back on track knowing where he went wrong and knowing the lies they told him that led him to make wrong decisions by making good ones. decisions and you didn't have the chance and for you it's unforgivable. But think about the following instead of being jealous of him, just see yourself in his place that the work will be much more enjoyable for yours. |
ZeroDownNov 1, 2021 5:56 AM
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Komla_6 said: I mean episode 11 at the start did show a pretty clear picture and set the scene for this episode.i was wrapped in rudeus and eris getting back to civilisation that i totally forgot the consequences of the attack. things are becoming clearer |
Harem_lover94 said: NhtDesu said: Again this guys didn’t notice any detail at all and claim the show didn’t metion bruh. 1 Years he stay with her and then 2 years at Eris house another 1 and a half when Rudy and Eris travelling so basically she nearly or over 5 years old now!!! smh Jesus, please, You embarrassing yourself at this point. Try to be at least checking the fact before saying anything. I completely admit that I forgot about the 2 years he spent teaching Eris, and that completely explains his grown up sister, but I don't think someone who has the training and the experience of an adventurer would forget what his father's shadow looks like, but I'll just leave that up the requirements of a story, the rest of my problems still stand, they were trapped in the beast village for 3 months (where he genuinely wasted time doing nothing but relaxing butt naked), but they were taken to the beast village from the port, or at least somewhere close to the port, they could have gone back to the port instead of to the city to get the letter out as soon as possible(it was probably closer given that Rudy just magically woke up in the Village after being knocked out and it took several days to get to the City), I understand letters reaching somewhere for sure is dicey, but you'd think SOMEONE STRANDED would show some serious emergency in letting people know where they are, and he has his pen in his mouth over the letter thinking "omg where do I BeGiN WrITING?", nor does he recognize the urgency of the situation and even forgiving that, the urgency of trying to find out anything about his family since they've been apart for so long, even if he doesn't know that they were teleported, I'm sure if you were lost on an island for a year and a half you would definitely try to know if your family is okay, not to mention HOW it was possible for him to take that long anyway, given that Roxxy was given employment as a wizard less competent than Rudy (granted she can use King level magic now) it boggles to mind how someone who is basically a walking talking nuclear bomb/tsunami generator couldn't find some way to get back home quickly leveraging his skills as a magician. Again with this ignorant. Ok so what you're trying to say is that Rudy should write the letter to his family right? but are you ever put yourself in Rudy shoes to know why that thought slip his mind in the first place? First of all when he transported to Demon Continent is there any town or house that near Rudy or Eris location? None right because in order for Rudeus to do saint magic he had to be somewhere far from the city so that wouldn't harm anyone. Next who is the one next to him after the transport? A Superd a being that everyone in the world is scared of, he had to think of a way to make Ruijerd an ally not only that he had to think numerous thing such as: Build reputation for Ruijerd,protect Eris, money, food, a place to sleep, train himself so that he could get by without any help and finally find out the purpose of Man God helping him, do you really think he can have time to think anything else provide not only that he had to deal with so many event recently? And for why they taking so long to travel please stop with this idiocity you didn't even notice something simple such as different terrain of each region in demon continent did you see any road line that been establish or any straight road? they have to climb moutain fighting monster to move on also they're kid they don't have much stamina like an adult ofc it would take longer to travel, in comparision Milis continent there're landline, highway with no monster. transportation such as horse...may I need to continue? Also why are you suggest going back to Zanto port? Not only it's a total waste of time but also serve no purpose I mean he didn't know the Incident had affect everyone else in the first place right so why bother return just to write frickin letters when he can easily do that in Millis capital ? Lastly Rudeus is a just a man he can only do so much at a time tbh you're speak like Paul at this point why not go outside and touch some grass...smh P/s: this is a map of Mushoku Tensei World and look at it where is Dorudia village compare to Zanto port before making any more poorer judgement  |
NhtDesuNov 1, 2021 6:16 AM
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zerokarasu said: ever heard of "self insert wish fullfilment story" aka what is TRASH ISEKAI about?? yeah ppl mad about this series because they cant self insert to this,the mc not a "bland 1 dimensional guy" or "perfect op gary stu" so they cant self insert to this series. really, there's no reason people hate this work so much just because the MC shows a normal libido, and not from a puritan virgin from the famous virgin harems of Japanese culture, on the contrary to show that he has the sexual interest and expose it to the girls by around you is much more mature, only children think that women do not have libido because they were deceived by the media and culture of women who lie to you and told you to do the opposite of what they wanted. |
ZeroDownNov 1, 2021 6:12 AM
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| Goddamn, another new OP, we get a new OP at like every new location we reach, that's amazing and the song really fits Millision with it's holy and religious vibes. But man, what a fucking episode, that was so heavy. I really can't blame Paul or Rudeus, they both definitely could have handled the situation better. Paul is obviously down right depressed and drunk so he's not thinking straight, he just wants to find and save his family and he just really had high expectations of Rudeus, though yeah Rudeus could have at least thought of his family, you can't really blame him either. Rudeus was transported all the way to the demon continent, of course the priority in his mind is his own survival and Eris's. We saw this episode that once he was in a safer position he was planning on writing a letter to his family, though it was too late. Well, it's not his fault that he didn't know how big the mana disaster actually was, he automatically assumed his family is safe. Both are not right, but I don't think they're wrong either, they've been through a lot. That was really sweet of Eris though, to comfort Rudeus. Seriously though, what a heavy episode. Really looking forward to the next one. |
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| I liked it, but the scene with the panty was unecessary. I hope they make up again. Looking forward to next week ! |
| “Do what feels right in your heart. You will be criticized either way.” (Eleanor Roosevelt) |
Harem_lover94 said: I don't know if I'm losing my mind but these people really don't know how to write a story. >Rudy gets caught by the "kidnappers" because he's too excited over Panties, and now will lick panties even in a life and death situation, Rudy is strong at this point, but as we have seen so many times in the past, he's not good against an actual swordsman and HE KNOWS that, there's no reason for him to have such a cavalier attitude towards actual combat. >>Rudy doesn't immediately ask his father about the family and why he looks like complete shit getting drunk so far away from home, roving around with a band. We understand that Rudy is not a normal 12 year old, but even a loser like him would have formed some attachment to his 2nd family. Especially since he drooled over them all the time anyway. >Rudy couldn't recognize his old bully even though it had only been a year and a half since he had met him, nor is he able to recognize his father even though it really hasn't been that long. >Rudy can't have a decent conversation with his own father, nor does he ask what the message was about immediately after he finds out that there was a message that he missed, and instead says "message?????" as if he is unaware that the concept of messages exist. Just for the sake of having a big reveal later, the conversation sounds stupid, like a bunch of AI robots talking. People are not this passionate in public settings, especially someone like Rudy, to start having a fight just because of silly misunderstandings, not to mention that Rudy doesn't recognize his father's figure, stance and fighting style despite spending YEARS being trained by him when he was attacked earlier. >we are told that Rudy could have actually sent a letter in the last port but CHOSE not to do so, when the entire point of the journey at this point is to get home, we thought he had no way to communicate since he was on the demon continent but we were not told before now that he had the chance to send a letter and simply "forgets to send a letter", KNOWING that Eris is so important that AN ENTIRE ARMY would be sent to help him if he just sends a letter and STILL CHOOSES NOT TO GET IN TOUCH. >The party is comfortable enough to leave each other and walk around alone, knowing that they almost always get into trouble when they do, which is also a problem when the entire team is so overpowered that they HAVE TO BE ALONE for something interesting to happen, but you can see that something wrong with happen from a mile off as the writers think of a reason to spread the party thin. But it makes for predictable writing where I'm always waiting for something to happen, instead of being introduced to situations naturally. >His sister EXPLODED in growth in a year and a half. That did NOT look like a 2 year old child, or even a 3 year old. And there's no way she's older than that. Jesus, please, take a class on story writing. I'll pay for it. Send me your address and I'll enroll you into a writing class if you're someone who makes the anime. wow, are you a professional writer ? can you give me a lesson for writing a best of the best stories ? maybe you can give me the novel you have written, just for reference like in amazon or somewhere i can burn my money for you maybe you have so many novel that have been published and sold i hope i can lear how to write from you. You know, I want to make my own story that one day can be adapted into a film |
| no wonder so many people talking this best isekai ever !! |
Soupisekaitrash said: I’m not a fan of this development, as much shit as ill give Rudy he did nothing wrong this time. His father doesn’t really consider his circumstances and seems ironically too self absorbed on his own. This a fucking kid and your asking him to do a search and rescue when he is stranded in the middle of a completely different continent trying to fend for himself he just wont have the time to consider factors he had no control of This. I'm really scared for people that actually think this is normal behavior for a person to have, let alone a parent, lol. Considering everything we saw from Paul so far, including his attachment to his family, this is absolutely jarring and completely out of character as well. |
LacertossNov 1, 2021 9:45 AM
| I just can't... The show has such great potential, then Rudy jumps out licking panties over the head. Circus isekai, starring Rudy the clown. |
| Next episode is gonna be even better |
Sigmar-Unberogen said: I must be the only detractor who doesn't see this latent potential, given how many I've seen lament this loss. It's a common enough trend among people who voice similar complaints to my own, yet I feel it's a rather standard experience hampered by all these separate elements rather than a great one, overshadowed by its flaws. I just can't... The show has such great potential, then Rudy jumps out licking panties over the head. Circus isekai, starring Rudy the clown. Where do you see this potential, Sigmar? You, in specific. |
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| I think that Paul's reaction is completely on point. It could be a little happier since he found someone from his family that is still alive, but still, it's a great reaction and a great point to get back to the main point of the anime. I also think that what he said it's true, Rudeus didn't give a shit about any single person other than Eris and Ruijerd, not his family, nor Eris's family not even Gileisha, he didn't give a shit, he didn't even think about it. And also, Paul expecting more of him is completely normal from someone who learned how to use magic in some months after being born. This is completely Rudeus fault. |
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