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Sep 19, 2021 7:47 PM
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Was just wondering why the score was so high
Sep 19, 2021 7:53 PM
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BigBowlNoodleBoi said:
Was just wondering why the score was so high
I am thinking about the same thing
Ratings doesn't matter only enjoyment does.
Masterpiece or mid, generic or fresh,best or worst are all subjective
Eren is goat,and aot is still a masterpiece (eg.subjective opinion)


Sep 19, 2021 8:02 PM
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>3.8k users vs 468k users
>People read it most likely because they liked the anime

>Well, it is...better...than...the anime...

I still can't believe JC Staff rushed a whole volume in less than 20 minutes lmao







Oct 6, 2021 1:24 AM
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Ohmena said:
>3.8k users vs 468k users
>People read it most likely because they liked the anime

>Well, it is...better...than...the anime...

I still can't believe JC Staff rushed a whole volume in less than 20 minutes lmao
an anime watcher here. How did they rush a whole volume? Did they put a volume of content into an episode?
Oct 6, 2021 7:31 AM
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Maxergamer360 said:
Ohmena said:
>3.8k users vs 468k users
>People read it most likely because they liked the anime

>Well, it is...better...than...the anime...

I still can't believe JC Staff rushed a whole volume in less than 20 minutes lmao
an anime watcher here. How did they rush a whole volume? Did they put a volume of content into an episode?


Yes. The last episode of Date a Live III covered a whole volume.

Even though Itsuka Disaster was 90% comedy, a lot of important things were shown there. If they don't make flashbacks to recover these things on DAL IV, anime watchers surely will have a huge problem.

A few things I remember being cut, read if you want:



DAL III surely cut a lot if you compare to other seasons. After all, this season covered 5 volumes of the novel...in 12 episodes.

For a fair comparison, DAL II covered only 3 volumes.

What kills DAL III is Natsumi arc and Itsuka Disaster arc. Origami was a faithful adaptation imo.








Apr 27, 2023 6:57 PM
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every light novel in general has a much higher score than its anime. Classroom of the elite is a big example. Season 4 was close to getting to the high score and would have held it had more people watched. In general, you will find the series underrated on anime forums compare to its actual franchise strength where it is easily one of Kadokawa's top long running franchises. A huge chunk of the audience is clueless on the later arcs
May 16, 2023 6:28 PM
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Ohmena said:
Maxergamer360 said:
an anime watcher here. How did they rush a whole volume? Did they put a volume of content into an episode?


Yes. The last episode of Date a Live III covered a whole volume.

Even though Itsuka Disaster was 90% comedy, a lot of important things were shown there. If they don't make flashbacks to recover these things on DAL IV, anime watchers surely will have a huge problem.

A few things I remember being cut, read if you want:



DAL III surely cut a lot if you compare to other seasons. After all, this season covered 5 volumes of the novel...in 12 episodes.

For a fair comparison, DAL II covered only 3 volumes.

What kills DAL III is Natsumi arc and Itsuka Disaster arc. Origami was a faithful adaptation imo.



Season 2 covered less volumes cause it had less episodes.
Also Natsumi arc wasn't actually that bad, at least for the first half.
May 16, 2023 10:45 PM
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Season 2 covered less volumes cause it had less episodes.
Also Natsumi arc wasn't actually that bad, at least for the first half.
Season 1 covered 4 volumes in a span of 12 episodes and had a filler episode (episode 6). So, 11 episodes to cover 4 volumes -> ~1 volume(s) per 3 episodes.

Season 2 covered 3 volumes in a span of 10 episodes with subtle, yet welcome changes from the novel + some small cuts -> ~1 volume(s) per 3 episodes.

Season 3 covered 5 volumes in a span of 11.5 episodes, man. First half of season 3 episode 1 was a goofy aah filler that cutted off important meetings and changed scenarios. -> ~1.14 volume(s) per 3 episodes + 1 whole volume in 1 episode.

Talking about Natsumi and the whole detective thing, the anime axed a lot of scenes with the girls to see if any of them were Natsumi. This was so pathetic that if I recall correctly, in the last seconds of episode 2 or 3 they just grayed 90% of the girls to make things faster HAHAHAHAHAHA, pain.

Natsumi is a character with tons of comedy scenes on her character arc and was a pretty good read how she slowly gets over her fears and traumas in a funny and cute way. Unfortunately, the anime doesn't have this.  Ah, her arc runs for 2 volumes and covered 4.5 episodes. This is reeeeally bad for pacing.

Origami's arc runs for 2 volumes as well, and she got 6 episodes this season. That is why it is a solid adaptation. There're no reasons to adapt volume 12 in the last episode. They could've just ended the season on Tobiichi Devil or they literally could've ended with volume 11.5, which is basically a funny small comedy episode that explains that Kotori's parents work at Ratatoskr

But we will never see that...







May 17, 2023 3:47 PM
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Ohmena said:
Dinosaurtime_YT said:
Season 2 covered less volumes cause it had less episodes.
Also Natsumi arc wasn't actually that bad, at least for the first half.
Season 1 covered 4 volumes in a span of 12 episodes and had a filler episode (episode 6). So, 11 episodes to cover 4 volumes -> ~1 volume(s) per 3 episodes.

Season 2 covered 3 volumes in a span of 10 episodes with subtle, yet welcome changes from the novel + some small cuts -> ~1 volume(s) per 3 episodes.

Season 3 covered 5 volumes in a span of 11.5 episodes, man. First half of season 3 episode 1 was a goofy aah filler that cutted off important meetings and changed scenarios. -> ~1.14 volume(s) per 3 episodes + 1 whole volume in 1 episode.

Talking about Natsumi and the whole detective thing, the anime axed a lot of scenes with the girls to see if any of them were Natsumi. This was so pathetic that if I recall correctly, in the last seconds of episode 2 or 3 they just grayed 90% of the girls to make things faster HAHAHAHAHAHA, pain.

But we will never see that...


A couple of things to note.

They greyed the girls in the LN too, not just the anime. Ch.4 and 5 of Vol. 8.

The Itsuka Disaster cuts aren't really that bad if you think about it, and consider that the majority of that volume, basically everything except the DEM stuff, is filler.
The plot of Shido going wild didn't need to happen, and it has little to no effect on the plot going forward.
May 17, 2023 6:45 PM

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Dinosaurtime_YT said:
Ohmena said:
Season 1 covered 4 volumes in a span of 12 episodes and had a filler episode (episode 6). So, 11 episodes to cover 4 volumes -> ~1 volume(s) per 3 episodes.

Season 2 covered 3 volumes in a span of 10 episodes with subtle, yet welcome changes from the novel + some small cuts -> ~1 volume(s) per 3 episodes.

Season 3 covered 5 volumes in a span of 11.5 episodes, man. First half of season 3 episode 1 was a goofy aah filler that cutted off important meetings and changed scenarios. -> ~1.14 volume(s) per 3 episodes + 1 whole volume in 1 episode.

Talking about Natsumi and the whole detective thing, the anime axed a lot of scenes with the girls to see if any of them were Natsumi. This was so pathetic that if I recall correctly, in the last seconds of episode 2 or 3 they just grayed 90% of the girls to make things faster HAHAHAHAHAHA, pain.

But we will never see that...


A couple of things to note.

They greyed the girls in the LN too, not just the anime. Ch.4 and 5 of Vol. 8.

The Itsuka Disaster cuts aren't really that bad if you think about it, and consider that the majority of that volume, basically everything except the DEM stuff, is filler.
The plot of Shido going wild didn't need to happen, and it has little to no effect on the plot going forward.
What I meant about excluding girls is: It actually had some fun mystery in the novel where everyone is suspect because of uncommon behavior. Things used in previous volumes are like a contradiction of their personalities. So, when you read, everyone feels suspect and the twist is pretty creative. The anime just deleted this to reach Natsumi as fast as possible.

Itsuka Disaster runs the same way as other volumes but with a lot more comedy scenes. You could actually call it a filler, but it just makes sense for the plot. It would've been a huge convenience for Shidou has all spirits power without suffering. Something like that had to happen. 

"everything except the DEM stuff is filler" and it is like 60+% of the volume, lol. See that Ratatoskr has a way to kill Shidou isn't actually necessary, but makes the story more coherent. They could've shown Mio and Shidou relation in a way other than Shidou losing control of himself? Sure, but this is just the whole point of the volume. The fact that J.C Staff axed Shidou and Mio interaction just makes more trouble for the new director of the anime.

I am glad that the new studio (and staff) are treating the anime with affection, because what they had to fix in the first episode of season 4 is just insane. Now imagine, the new director needs to create a flashback that is different from what anime-only people know about Shidou or create a new circumstance for Shidou knows Mio. Both of them will just mess the story now anyway, and it isn't even his (new director) fault. Shidou knowing Mio at Itsuka Disaster takes a huge role for next volumes and is a great foreshadow since we know since the beginning of Date A Live story that he and Mana doesn't remember anything from when they were kids. These small pieces of information that you use to solve a big puzzle and create theories are such a bless the novel had and unfortunately, anime-only watchers won't have this.

For a volume focused in comedy, it had really emotional moments. You could feel despair, sadness, danger, etc. Kotori crying is incredible.

Not to mention how beautiful the final part of Itsuka Disaster was. The fact that Tohka took 10 volumes to realize Shidou has to kiss other girls to seal them is sad and funny at the same time. At this point, when she was counting how many spirits has (7) and says to Shidou kiss her seven times...it's corny, I know, but it is cute. A kiss of these two as the last page of the volume was wonderful.

tl;dr: Yeah, it is a comedy volume and you can call part of it a filler if you just focus on action and drama moments. Thing is, people wanted to see these funny moments animated. Comedy is an important part of the show, why exclude it and make a semi-filler episode in the intention of rushing a whole volume? At least end it at volume 11.5 or, as I said before, at Origami's arc. Being half filler or not, Itsuka Disaster is an important part of the novel and doesn't deserved to have this treatment.



 







Aug 2, 2023 2:57 PM

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It's simple. The Light Novel is vastly superior to the anime. Light Novels, more often than not, are higher rated than their anime adaptations. Usually the case with the source material vs their adaptations overall really
Aug 8, 2023 9:29 AM
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Because it is obviously better than the anime.

Don't tell me this is the first time you've seen the source material getting a higher rating than its anime adaptations.

It doesn't take a genius to figure this out.
Aug 19, 2023 7:58 AM

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ln readers know the entire story, how amazing it is towards the end while anime watchers have a superficial understanding and won't understand the clever foreshadowing, hints, buildup. So DAL has one of the biggest disconnect between ln readers and anime onlies. This is different from Berserk where the meat is already covered in the golden age arc that is already adapted into anime twice.

Finally dal has a pretty low ln readerbase since the ln never got translated until after the main story concluded in jp. Whereas other ln series have official translations available.

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