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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Man, watching these kids in the wild at night...chilling. Not only that but an entire village under flames. No one is safe in this show, not even the demons. Norman really meant what he said about his goals and now action speaks louder than words. Loved the way the soundtrack is used this episode. |
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| damn this episode was absolutely amazing, best episode this season by far. they finally found sonju and mujika but it was too late... looks like norman finally realized the weight of his decisions. that scene with the girl and the grandpa demon was really sad, wonder whatll happen now. also, norman looked really badass in this scene ngl |
| Norman's backstory of meeting Peter Ratri, the meeting of 2 geniuses and a demon's fodder plate cleared in compassion from Sister Isabelle. Scouraging out the escape plan from Lambda is only a matter of time for Norman, and that explains his strong will to have all demons eradicated. That's some wicked thought to be either an angel or a devil. Emma, Ray, Don and Gilda tracking down Sonju and Mujika in a 5-day deadline that is growing to be more impossible by the day, but instead demon encounters in the Promised Forest led the both of them to the Grace Field Children. The entire village in ruins from Norman's genocidal experiment, he'll stop at nothing to achieve his goals...and if anything, this is the indication that Norman isn't turning back from his ways. Such a chilling episode that shudders at each living breath of potential life, all lost within time allowable. It's also...NOT BAD. Now I have this worry: It seems that the "anime-original" ending that CloverWorks are going for with Kaiu Shirai... |
KANLen09Mar 4, 2021 10:32 AM
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| We finally saw Norman's part of the story and as expected he was experimented upon and he went through a lot. While Emma and Ray finds Mujica, Norman launches all out attack on the demons. His plan was to degenerate the demons and make them fight each other, truly a marvelous plan and it was working as he expected but then a demon girl named Emma appeared and the reality of things kicked in inside Norman. Only now he realises what has he done, it's the same as what the demons did to them. |
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| That was a really good episode. James Ratri, a new character gets introduced in this episode. Seeing things from Norman's POV says different things. All those kids being the test subjects was pretty hard to watch. Norman's escape plan was a pretty big brain move. On the other hand, Emma found Sonju and Mujika but it's too late. They already destroyed that demon's village. Felt pretty bad there as well for the demons. That soundtrack was amazing. Really amazing episode. |
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| THE BEST EPISODE SO FAR! Such and emotional rollecoaster, and that ending, perfection. Thought cloverworks was smoking some tar or something with the pacing of the intial episodes but this one certainly bangs. |
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| The parts with Norman at the start were fine, went downhill when it went back to Emma, I agree that it's the best episode so far, but still not good |
| I was not expecting so many shocks in one episode. At first the whole Lamda thing was quite disturbing and also poor Norman. As if killing his siblings wasn't enough, the demons also tortured him. I really was convinced someone was gong to die to the wild demon since the show is now going anime original but there swooped in Sonju and Mujika. At the end of the episode when they destroyed the demon I was sad that the families were eating each other even if they were demons. I was going to be heartbroken if anything had happened to the little demon and her grandfather. Luckily they survived for now since the grandfather had the "evil blood". I feel like there is a lot of things missing tho. Like what exactly happened to the other kids that are Norman's gang and also what is Isabella doing. Like they told her to hunt down the missing children since before Norman was introduce again so what has she been doing this whole time. |
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| Also, seeing the cgi demon again attacking the kids just made me laugh so hard, it's such a terrible, terrible looking thing you just have to laugh |
| Wow, this episode is definitely the best of the season The soundtrack they have chosen were really great but that CGI demon was so weird xdd In the end Norman can't do it (μ_μ) |
| So this episode was something... Either way, Norman's darkness is showing Old demon actually was a plot point huh. Too bad Norman's plans are being shot down right off the bat Seems like we'll get a similar results from this part like it was in the manga On another note, CGI demon is ridiculous, please stop -_- Bwoarck said: Manga readers, I need to know, was there supposed to be more shown about how Norman escaped the facility? Cause to me it seemed like they went from him getting there and escaping in a span of 2-3 fucking minutes and I wanna know if I missed out on something Just go read the manga lol |
| Damn, what an episode for sure. Made me keen and interested for next week's ep for sure. |
| Emma found Sonju and Mujika but it's already too late I guess. |
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| I don't know what's going on with Norman, but he should at least know that he can't be half-hearted. |
| Ok, not bad. I had lost all hope in this anime, but this ep gave me a second try [Edit] Also, very good ost |
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| It’s hard to even care about the lambda stuff with how GP was removed and everything else they’ve skipped. The backstory was probably objectively good, but it was just hard to get invested Norman being aged up would’ve been much better as well. On its own merits though, definitely the best OG episode. That shot of Norman and the squad on top of the pillars overlooking the city was sick. The OST gave off Kaijura vibes too for a bit there Last few weeks pretty much confirming that they do plan to end the whole story by the end of this season |
Marinate1016Mar 4, 2021 11:26 AM
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| A mere 6 minutes of explanation for Norman's drastic character change. In all honesty, this episode on it's own is pretty good. While the outcome of this episode is a logical one, it is only logical and therefore well executed when there is enough background and motivation behind it. 6 minutes of hardly vital context of Norman's second escape and his motivation of "protecting his family" remaining the same, what has been presented in the anime isn't nearly enough justification. This feels like it should be the cliffhanger or mid-season event of a 3rd or even 4th season, after we know a lot, and I mean a LOT more context and detail to the story. No matter what Season 2 does at this point, there is no chance of recovering from it's horrible pacing, structure, and numerous plot-holes. |
| I liked this episode. I felt really bad for the demons, especially when the kid demon started crying with her grandpa. The ost was great and it made those scenes even sadder. |
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The minute the demon-grandchild's name was revealed I knew this moment was coming........ |
| “I just spent the last two years thinking that you guys knew more than me about life and I just found out that you guys are just as dumb as me.” “Duh-doy.” “Yeah, duh-doy.” |
| Did they just pull a Batman v Superman on us? Save... Emma... |
| This anime has taken out all the good stuff from the manga and literally replaced it with nothing at all. Just long exposition dumps that dont reveal all that much. We wasted 8 episodes to get to this point. That was plenty of time to do all the cool stuff and still end up where we should. Also this season treats all the kids like theyre not super geniuses. In this season they're all just dumb baby kids. Also, this show just had a Batman V Superman "Martha" moment... awful |
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| So the plan to kill off the demons by having them degenerate is working well. It looks like Norman is having second thoughts after encountering the demon girl Emma and her grandfather, and it seems he somehow received Mujika's blood. |
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| Its good that we're able to see what happened to Norman in the time he went missing. The contrast with Emma and teams hunt for Sanju and Mujika though was a nice touch. The effects of the drug though really was terrifying. Even though his will and determination was there the results of it were far more than he expected. Overall an interesting ep that balanced out action with a sense of twisted horror at seeing innocent demons be reduced back to their base instincts and turn and kill their friends and families. Though it was long awaited seeing Norman become the villain sure is unnerving. |
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| This is the best episode so far! It had its downsides, but there's not much else to be expected by this season anyways. The general art and animation (not counting the CG for christs sake) show how good this season could've been, had the studio just decided to follow the manga and not skip entire arcs... |
uh_keMar 4, 2021 11:52 AM
| Emma: Don't kill them! Norman: Awww, maaaannnn.... Me: *facepalms hard* How much worse can this shitfest get? Imagine rating this higher than something like JJK and MT and claiming sanity intact. EDIT: sure this episode may be supposedly more intense but it still managed to bore me even more. Rushing everything like no tomorrow, no coherency in terms of fleshing out anything which makes everything so surface level, and then ofc the deliriously redundant situation regarding Emma and Norman’s mindsets. This is beyond salvation now. |
RyuseishunMar 4, 2021 3:15 PM
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| Norman is an absolute badass exterminating those demons! The real og of this season Also, still waiting for Emma to abandon her stupid simplistic ideals |
| Pacing was rushed again but I actually thought that episode was pretty damn intense, especially with regards to the music. The CG was pretty rough but at least this episode overall had some interesting content and a bit more of an intense and unforgiving feel compared to a lot of the previous episodes in this particular season. Not perfect, especially since the buildup was rushed and too condensed, but not bad of an episode either by any means. |
Ardis160 said: agreed. first half was boring though but latter half was interesting. still, because of how much content they cut out, we didn't get a chance to understand and befriend the demons so seeing them suffer in this episode didn't really pull my heartstringsActually not that bad of an episode, which is surprising. Probably the best one since EP2 |
| Except for the stupid BvS 'Martha' moment Norman had towards the end there, this was actually a pretty good episode. Nowhere near the heights of season 1, but compared to the rest of season 2 this was pretty compelling. It might've been nice if they spent some more time on the escape from Lambda, though. Sure, it seems like they're trying to wrap up the whole story this season so there's obviously time constraints, but if they're going for something anime original, a break-out arc similar to a shorter Grace Field might not have been too bad. At least, it would better explain how Norman managed to get explosives other than him just saying he could. I assume Smee somehow smuggled them past the 24/7 surveillance to get them to him, but it could've been interesting to have been shown that instead of told it. |
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| This episode was pretty decent I guess, but that doesn't really matter much at this point given how this season has gone lol. With only 3 episodes left, this is beyond salvation, time to just see how they plan to end it. And lol that hesitation from Norman to kill the little demon girl after hearing her name was Emma reminded me of the whole "Martha" moment from Batman vs. Superman xD |
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| i hate everything that is going on rn the way they scrapped the manga but that scene with baby norman staring at emma made me nearly tear up ): poor norman going through all that hardship alone.. was the scene with the emma demon and her grandfather in the manga? i read the manga but i literally forget sm lmao i didn't know there were others like mujika |
| Super Grandpa demon: Emma! Bat Norman: Why did you say that name? Really? As if it was not already bad enough this is the kind of cheesy writing they will use to solve everything? |
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| Rejoice anime watchers, I do not hate this episode! The anime original scenes e.g. the massacre at the demon town was good. When Norman turned and Emma’s perception is child Norman was cool. The soundtracks during the massacre elevated the unsettling feeling of demons overloading & eating each other. The anime made the demons more sympathetic and Norman conflicted with his decision to kill the demons, whereas manga Norman poisoned most of the town no hesitation. Note: Manga Norman is older and he weren’t there when he poisoned the demon town because it was only a diversion to his main objective. I doubt the anime will mention since there’s only three episodes left. What I didn’t like: Norman and gang’s time at Lamba was rushed. Emma’s magical fast travel to stop Norman. The group was days away and you expect me to believe Emma and Co. saw what was happening and got their in a few hours? (being generous) The demon girl being named Emma. I get what the writers was going for but it’s too on the nose like Martha in BvS. |
FlexstyleMar 6, 2021 5:43 AM
| It honestly felt a little good when Norman realized he became the exact thing he's trying to destroy. |
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