| Karl Marx lol i even added him as my favorite here on MAL, his criticism about capitalism is very on point and relevant today |
| epicurus was dope as fuck, chill ass dude just like sat around with his boys and ate grapes n shit absolute legend |
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| I liked from what I learnt how Sartre put the basis of a moral nihilicism in his existentialism, as well as Kant's appliance of moral in choices being the only true liberty. There was some interest to be given to Spinoza's determinism. But honestly there is no one philosopher above all. Now about the one I love the most for an idea pertinent perhaps, it would be Emil Cioran since he was in favor of suicide and dealt with birth philosophy... |
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| Diogenes the Cynic. He lived in a barrel in the town square, often roamed around public naked and shit on the floor, masturbated in public and would fight dogs in the streets for scraps of meat. Allegedly Julias Ceasar was interested in Diogenes and once traveled to Craneion to meet with Him. When Ceasar found Diogenes he told him that he would grant Diogenes whatever gift he wanted. Diogenes laying there sunbathing told Ceasar "get out of the way, you're blocking my light" And yet he still didn't get executed...What a legend. |
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| I really like Deleuze, he's so chill. |
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Bobby2Hands said: Diogenes the Cynic. He lived in a barrel in the town square, often roamed around public naked and shit on the floor, masturbated in public and would fight dogs in the streets for scraps of meat. Allegedly Julias Ceasar was interested in Diogenes and once traveled to Craneion to meet with Him. When Ceasar found Diogenes he told him that he would grant Diogenes whatever gift he wanted. Diogenes laying there sunbathing told Ceasar "get out of the way, you're blocking my light" And yet he still didn't get executed...What a legend. that's actually dope as fuck if true |
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| Albert Camus, because he was very human, very normal and yet still, quite extraordinary. |
| I've read a lot about Diogenes, he was truly a badass. Though remember a lot of the legends about him are just legends and probably didn't actually happen (he probably did not meet Alexander the great, for example.). |
| Descartes. He's probably the most enlightened of all of them. He's actually got some really interesting writings where he seems to identify the location of the third eye in the physical brain (he makes a reference to a location in the physical brain which sounds suspiciously similar to the Pineal Gland, which does secrete DMT endogenously in the human brain). |
| I CELEBRATE myself, And what I assume you shall assume, For every atom belonging to me as good belongs to you. |
pikachu1660 said: deg said: Karl Marx lol i even added him as my favorite here on MAL, his criticism about capitalism is very on point and relevant today Marx's solutions may not be on point but his criticisms are on point. totally agree, he did not predicted that capitalism will be mix with socialist policies today like welfare, free education and free healthcare that is making the worker class still satisfied with capitalism |
| So I'm a little conflicted about this thread. On one hand I want to say Nietzsche, but on the other I don't want to since he pretty much became a trademark for edgy teens who don't even understand him that well in the first place. I think I'll refrain from expressing my opinion. Oh wait... |
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| “Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.” โ Friedrich Nietzsche im skeptical of this philosophy seeing that in order to fight monsters you have to equally or greater become monster to defeat that monster thats just how fights/battle works |
| I am my favorite philosopher . . . . . . |
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Yuan_Kinjiro said: deg said: No, that's in the literal sense. If you're a benevolent person but become obsessed with let's say revenge due to certain agonising circumstances, you are victimising two people at once - the one you're taking revenge on, and yourself, because your own morality becomes defiled after you have taken revenge. You'd become the exact person that you swore you'd never become. This is the metaphysical paradox of the abyss.“Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.” โ Friedrich Nietzsche im skeptical of this philosophy seeing that in order to fight monsters you have to equally or greater become monster to defeat that monster thats just how fights/battle works so you become what you hate in other words, thats to me saying its much harder to be a hero |
| As an existentialist and absurdist, Camus' and Sarte's ideas resonate with me quite a lot. |
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| I don't have favorites, but I've been a bit interested in Ludwig Wittgenstein for his language philosophy. Aside from that, while not typically counted as a philosopher, I can quite agree with the wisdom of a poet: "Liebe machet schoene wîp: desn mac diu schoene niht getuon, sin machet niemer lieben lîp." "Love makes a beautiful wife, that'll beauty alone not manage, it will never bring love to life." https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Walther_von_der_Vogelweide (adjusted the translation to make it rhyme) |
NoboruNov 4, 2018 12:46 PM
| Probably John Locke, he had some insane but awesome theories. |
ThatRazorGuy said: You do realize existentialist and absurdist are fairly antagonistic terms, right?As an existentialist and absurdist, Camus' and Sarte's ideas resonate with me quite a lot. Camus is fine. But he's just too predictable. His absurdism is barely 'absurd'. Contrasting nihilism and existentialism, his views are the mildest and I'd say that any person with above-average has the same views (assuming the stimulus is present) but doubt he'd articulate himself as Camus did. That's the only difference I really see. |
pikachu1660 said: deg said: “Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.” โ Friedrich Nietzsche im skeptical of this philosophy seeing that in order to fight monsters you have to equally or greater become monster to defeat that monster thats just how fights/battle works Nietzsche is saying that you should be like batman. Batman seeks justice not revenge therefore he is not betraying his ideals. im not a fan of batman seeing that he reminds me of the paradox of tolerance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance |
| Socrates, because he bugged the hell out of everyone trying to get them to think. It's interesting that @Yuan_Kinjiro has him in his signature. ("If Socrates hadn't consumed the Hemlock plant, humanity wouldn't have evolved to be this ignorant.") |
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| marcus aurelius because of his contribution to stoicism. camus and sarte have already been mentioned in this thread. |
| shout out to Karl Popper too for saying science should be about disproving theories and not about confirming theories |
Yarub said: ThatRazorGuy said: You do realize existentialist and absurdist are fairly antagonistic terms, right?As an existentialist and absurdist, Camus' and Sarte's ideas resonate with me quite a lot. Camus is fine. But he's just too predictable. His absurdism is barely 'absurd'. Contrasting nihilism and existentialism, his views are the mildest and I'd say that any person with above-average has the same views (assuming the stimulus is present) but doubt he'd articulate himself as Camus did. That's the only difference I really see. Was it really Camus' intention to create an absurd philosophy? What he calls absurd is the human condition. His ideas about how to confront that condition aren't meant to be absurd, and if they seem predictable or natural, then that's what they were always meant to be. Camus real achievement is his clarity of conscience that finally returned some common sense to the questions that baffled the world and threw it into world wars and self-destructive ideals. I suggest you read the collection ''Resistance, Rebellion, and Death'' and ''The Rebel'' to get a better idea of how his philosophy ultimately ties into a much more humanistic worldview which, in my knowledge, no other philosophy in the last few centuries really allows. |
| William of Ockham. At least, I think he's very underrated. |
| The football field isn't the only place where you could use a good line. |
| heraclitus is an absolute bastard i love him! would punch him in the face, lovingly. diogenes is also sick af |
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| Fella by the name of Jesus Christ knew what was going on. I was really into the Chinese greats through my late teens; Lao Tsu, Siddhartha Gautama, Confucius, and Han Feizi... but Fyodor Dostoyevsky is the G of all G's when it comes to mortal men. Also @pikachu1660 change your Nietzsche quote. It's most generic god-damn quote in existence. |
| Well you'd suppose it would be Nietzsche, because of my signature... but I'm actually a huge fan of Marcus Aurelius, not only was he a philosopher; but also the emperor of Rome and I feel like stoic philosophy and teachings are highly underappreciated. Some other names I wanna throw out there are Schopenhauer, Heidegger, Seneca, Lao Tzu and Jung. |
 "The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." -Friedrich Nietzsche |
| Diogenes because that man could give less of a fuck |
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| I like Auguste Comte and Jean Paul Sartre because #atheism |
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| Whoever came up with stoicism is probably my favorite. Stoicism is something I had to use sometimes to protect myself. It was almost like once I stopped displaying emotions in certain situations I wouldn't feel them. |
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| In this day and age its VARG VIKERNES....because Burzum and because....Hail Odin!:) Also Nietzsche :"When marrying, ask yourself this question: Do you believe that you will be able to converse well with this person into your old age? Everything else in marriage is transitory." and Schopenhauer because I agree with the wheel of will I made this picture in Paint BTW :D  Schopenhauer also gave the answer ,what you need to do to break out of this endless wheel/circle of destruction which..... I could....... Maybe reveal to those who are worthy haha:)   Schopenhauer also said that humans are nothing more then two legged creatures haha:)) Immanuel Kant : "If man makes himself a worm he must not complain when he is trodden on." My favorite are the guys who started it all [b]Socrates who believed that philosophy should achieve practical results for the greater well-being of society. The best teacher ever! Also Plato who believed there were three parts to a human soul and proposed that people would be divided into three classes, depending on which part of their soul is dominant. People dominated by the “Appetitive” part are those driven by their basic desires and would become the workers (including businessmen, professionals, etc.). Those with the dominant “Spirited” part would make auxiliaries (soldiers and police) because they could control their desires, channel their energies and therefore be brave and loyal, but not capable of making the best policy decisions. Finally, those dominated by the “Reasoning” part, the philosophers, are capable of logical judgement and therefore most fit to rule. Plato believed that it is the philosophers who are capable of seeing the true forms (see the theory of forms) of goodness, virtue and justice. They would also be able to understand that to live virtuously is the best kind of life and that virtue overrides self-interest. They would, therefore, be the best kind of rulers. |
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Thanakos said: Yarub said: You do realize existentialist and absurdist are fairly antagonistic terms, right? Camus is fine. But he's just too predictable. His absurdism is barely 'absurd'. Contrasting nihilism and existentialism, his views are the mildest and I'd say that any person with above-average has the same views (assuming the stimulus is present) but doubt he'd articulate himself as Camus did. That's the only difference I really see. Was it really Camus' intention to create an absurd philosophy? What he calls absurd is the human condition. His ideas about how to confront that condition aren't meant to be absurd, and if they seem predictable or natural, then that's what they were always meant to be. Camus real achievement is his clarity of conscience that finally returned some common sense to the questions that baffled the world and threw it into world wars and self-destructive ideals. I suggest you read the collection ''Resistance, Rebellion, and Death'' and ''The Rebel'' to get a better idea of how his philosophy ultimately ties into a much more humanistic worldview which, in my knowledge, no other philosophy in the last few centuries really allows. Yes, but as a person who prefers truly 'absurd' ideas and topics to 'ordinary' ones, my expectations were high. But I guess my expectations were in the wrong aspect of Camus; just as you illustrated. I've actually read the prologue of The Rebel but it didn't interest me enough, for me to continue investing into it. I prefer Camus' novels. But then, I don't generally read purely philosophical essays unless it is a condition I am affected by. Mila91 said: and Schopenhauer because I agree with the wheel of will I have read that Schopenhauer was quite the feminist too. |
Yarub said: Yes, but as a person who prefers truly 'absurd' ideas and topics to 'ordinary' ones, my expectations were high. But I guess my expectations were in the wrong aspect of Camus; just as you illustrated. I've actually read the prologue of The Rebel but it didn't interest me enough, for me to continue investing into it. I prefer Camus' novels. But then, I don't generally read purely philosophical essays unless it is a condition I am affected by. Camus' novels are not separate from his philosophical essays. They represent, roughly, an application of the ideas he presents in the essays. The essays are also very wide-ranging and often cover broad literature and themes, so if you've read any of the works he talks about (Nietzshe, Dostoyevsky, Rimbaud, Sade etc), then they will read almost like a story, a story of the literary and mental development of mankind over centuries but of course viewed from the eyes of Camus. It's fascinating, to say the least. For me though, the main point of attraction is a certain sense of humility I get from Camus. He looks at it all from a very human point of view, without pretensions; his is the only philosophy that I believe any type of person can subscribe to, even the ones most averse to philosophical inquiries. I have read that Schopenhauer was quite the feminist too. So was Nietzsche, for that matter. stargirl said: heraclitus is an absolute bastard i love him! would punch him in the face, lovingly. diogenes is also sick af I see, you're still a disappointment. nicethings said: I'm not really into pretentious hacks Then don't read analytic philosophy. |
Thanakos said: I see, you're still a disappointment. im so sorry liking funny philosophers makes me a disappointment, mr. einstein :( can i make it up to you by pulling that stick out of your ass? p.s. the stranger was average at best. |
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