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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Wow, I have to admit, this episode had a crazy start with the planned shooting. Wonder how long that was planned for. Seems this episode finally takes a more direct approach into the storytelling between Setsuna and Rinne. On the other hand, the segment between Karen and Setsuna was pretty cringeworthy. Still, the story's pacing did pick up quite a bit this episode. |
Stark700Aug 26, 2018 7:49 AM
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| Interesting, but I was hoping it would have a little bit more content. |
| Well, I certainly was not expecting that timeline shift to a complete new scenario. Considering I was already lost I'm not sure they can give me a satisfactory conclusion to the story without it feeling completely random. The new ED was beautiful. If anything, the anime has fantastic OP and ED's. After 8 episodes I do get the feeling that premise of the story is actually quite intriguing and the story might actually be pretty good but it's just that the presentation of the anime is very mediocre. This timeline jump has given me enough interest to consider picking up the VN which I assume is far better than the anime, at least I hope it is. |
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| I've wrote it last week and i'm gonna write it again. This anime is the biggest fuck up this season. Even after nearly 500 watched shows i find this to be the stupid show i've ever watched. Sorry for the rant guys but please if you are gonna make something do it the right way. Sayonara from me and if you plan to watch this please save your time for something better. |
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| I don't know what is going on anymore after this episode. Well, I didn't know before to be honest, but now it feels completely random. |
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| Felt like I was watching Planetarian. Anyone else? Both were animated by David Production after all. |
iliyanski89 said: I've wrote it last week and i'm gonna write it again. This anime is the biggest fuck up this season. Even after nearly 500 watched shows i find this to be the stupid show i've ever watched. Sorry for the rant guys but please if you are gonna make something do it the right way. Sayonara from me and if you plan to watch this please save your time for something better. you simply can't quit the show and is coming back to it every week ? :D Try Rewrite :D Who knows it might beat this show in terms of stupidity for you. Honestly though this ep was awesome, this moment of story in vn gotta be that sort of where you can't help but keep reading. |
| This is sparking my interest, but honestly... This show is kinda putting me in a loop of half explained and half not explained. Not sure if they can really salvage this with the episodes they got left. |
| Interesting episode i guess but "new timeline"? not sure about that, i think its just the future. The thing is, according to the episode, the Setsuna here is actually our Setsuna that has waken up in the future, what i don't understand is why there is a Rinne and Karen here? i mean its like everyone is reborn and the whole world have some sort of cycle aspect to it that after some time, same people will reborn? |
| I wasn't expecting a timeline shift, with the Island's title changing to 'Never Island' and it's also the only place left on earth that's inhabited by humans. Talk about an apocalyptic-type of world here... The new OP/ED carries that feeling of tension and sadness, but with a tinge of hope, which was a nice touch. =) In this worldline, Sara has big boobs, Rinne looks nice with her choice of outfit, but she's also working on a time-leap machine(?), whereas Karen is the leader of the untagged and was willing to have sex with Setsuna in order to get info. That's a bit desperate of her, to be honest. Either way, Setsuna now remembers what he's here to do, so I'm hoping that his mission will get off to a successful start for the next episode. =) |
beast_regards said: I don't know what is going on anymore after this episode. Well, I didn't know before to be honest, but now it feels completely random. Thank fuck, I'm not the only one that feels this way xD |
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Meta_Yoshi said: I wasn't expecting a timeline shift, with the Island's title changing to 'Never Island' and it's also the only place left on earth that's inhabited by humans. Talk about an apocalyptic-type of world here... The new OP/ED carries that feeling of tension and sadness, but with a tinge of hope, which was a nice touch. =) In this worldline, Sara has big boobs, Rinne looks nice with her choice of outfit, but she's also working on a time-leap machine(?), whereas Karen is the leader of the untagged and was willing to have sex with Setsuna in order to get info. That's a bit desperate of her, to be honest. Either way, Setsuna now remembers what he's here to do, so I'm hoping that his mission will get off to a successful start for the next episode. =) It doesn't really explain anything, as even though this episode is the future protagonist have flashback about, it is not the original timeline as protagonist arrived to it through that cryosleep chamber, and was not born to that world. It is a closed loop. He arrived to the future via the future cryosleep technology, and is going to leave it through future's time machine. Also, it is not the future technology, Never Island's Rinne is actually building it according to instruction from past. Also, Rinne's Five Years disappearance before has nothing to do with this Never Island as she spent 5 days on the tropical island, not the frozen one, with another Setsuna, with technology for being cryo frozen already present. Also, for mystical reasons, two girls practically look the same in the Never Island timeline, with pretty much having the same personalities, while they by all means should be different persons. Person Protagonist Setsuna want to save have to be different person than Never Island Rinne Also, probably future is the past, and the sun sickness mentioned earlier is somehow inherited from people who lived their lives in the bunker. I bet on it. |
beast_regardsAug 26, 2018 12:34 PM
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| wow karen gave me a boner in this episode LOL and rinne was cute and the new op and ED Never ISLAND as the new intro HYPEEEEEEE come on that is so fcking cool!!!! |
Qio420Aug 26, 2018 1:22 PM
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| This turned into a completely different series lol. So Setsuna really seems to be stuck in a loop. Goes to the past with future tech to fix stuff, fails, ends up in the future via future tech (which is actually forgotten past tech). I wonder if he will be sent back to the past again. How the hell did the world freeze over lol. Anyway, I'll wait how this turns out and probably pick up the visual novel later. |
beast_regards said: Meta_Yoshi said: I wasn't expecting a timeline shift, with the Island's title changing to 'Never Island' and it's also the only place left on earth that's inhabited by humans. Talk about an apocalyptic-type of world here... The new OP/ED carries that feeling of tension and sadness, but with a tinge of hope, which was a nice touch. =) In this worldline, Sara has big boobs, Rinne looks nice with her choice of outfit, but she's also working on a time-leap machine(?), whereas Karen is the leader of the untagged and was willing to have sex with Setsuna in order to get info. That's a bit desperate of her, to be honest. Either way, Setsuna now remembers what he's here to do, so I'm hoping that his mission will get off to a successful start for the next episode. =) It doesn't really explain anything, as even though this episode is the future protagonist have flashback about, it is not the original timeline as protagonist arrived to it through that cryosleep chamber, and was not born to that world. It is a closed loop. He arrived to the future via the future cryosleep technology, and is going to leave it through future's time machine. Also, it is not the future technology, Never Island's Rinne is actually building it according to instruction from past. Also, Rinne's Five Years disappearance before has nothing to do with this Never Island as she spent 5 days on the tropical island, not the frozen one, with another Setsuna, with technology for being cryo frozen already present. Also, for mystical reasons, two girls practically look the same in the Never Island timeline, with pretty much having the same personalities, while they by all means should be different persons. Person Protagonist Setsuna want to save have to be different person than Never Island Rinne Also, probably future is the past, and the sun sickness mentioned earlier is somehow inherited from people who lived their lives in the bunker. I bet on it. Thanks for the explanation. Going by your post, I assume you've played the Visual Novel? If so, then I think it's about I did the same, so I can understand the story better. ^^; |
MomoSinX said: This turned into a completely different series lol. So Setsuna really seems to be stuck in a loop. Goes to the past with future tech to fix stuff, fails, ends up in the future via future tech (which is actually forgotten past tech). I wonder if he will be sent back to the past again. He put himself in the statis chamber to go in the future in order to save the girl from dying in the past, only to find the dead girl alive again in the future with no memory of the past is building the time machine according to instruction in the past so protagonist can go from future to the past again to save the girl from the future instead of the girl in the past... I wonder how this is going to make any sense whatsoever. J_LEE_C said: Thank fuck, I'm not the only one that feels this way xD It's like Erased. Some people actually believed it is going to make sense in the future. I was one of those people. I believed Island is going to make sense too. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Meta_Yoshi said: Thanks for the explanation. Going by your post, I assume you've played the Visual Novel? If so, then I think it's about I did the same, so I can understand the story better. ^^; No, actually, I never played VN. I am going by what anime told (shown) me to this point. |
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beast_regards said: Meta_Yoshi said: Thanks for the explanation. Going by your post, I assume you've played the Visual Novel? If so, then I think it's about I did the same, so I can understand the story better. ^^; No, actually, I never played VN. I am going by what anime told (shown) me to this point. Fair enough. I just need to pay extra attention to the next set of episodes, along with rewatching this episode again so I can get a better understanding of what's happening. That way, I might enjoy this show a bit more, who knows! ^_^ |
beast_regards said: Also, probably future is the past, and the sun sickness mentioned earlier is somehow inherited from people who lived their lives in the bunker. I bet on it. Nice catch dude, that actually make some sense. Maybe they use the time machine and take all the survivals to the past to keep them alive by keep repeating the cycle, somewhat like that movie "Miss Peregrine's Home for Peculiar Children" where they stayed in the loop right before the German bomber destroy the orphanage. |
John_MaxAug 26, 2018 1:42 PM
John_Max said: Nice catch dude, that actually make some sense. Maybe they use the time machine and take all the survivals to the past to keep them alive by keep repeating the cycle, somewhat like that movie "Miss Peregrine's Home for Peculiar Children" where they stayed in the loop right before the German bomber destroy the orphanage. I bet it is something similar. Problem is, people in the Never Island know the legend (it is mentioned in the passing), they don't have any specific details, while people in the original Island had a details of the legend. Which is a strange status, legend mentioned in the start of the series didn't happened yet in Episode 9, no mention of three clans, yet there is some preceding legend still. Only way how Island (from the starting episodes) can come to be is that all three girls plus protagonist traveled to the past and found the clans. But that wouldn't happen, because protagonist arrived at the point clans and island was already found, and there was different Setsuna before. Meta_Yoshi said: Fair enough. I just need to pay extra attention to the next set of episodes, along with rewatching this episode again so I can get a better understanding of what's happening. That way, I might enjoy this show a bit more, who knows! ^_^ There is a scene where (Never Island) Rinne finds Setsuna in the container he was frozen in at the end of Episode 8, suggesting he was never born into this world. But that would mean she also was on surface, which is strange, since she don't know about the frozen wasteland? What I am not sure about is that container really freezes the person inside it. If protagonist is in the future, Rinne should be already dead, and she obviously isn't. Even if everyone in the female line of the clan is supposed to look the same, Rinne was dead/drown when Setsuna was "frozen" and thus died without the descendant. |
beast_regardsAug 26, 2018 1:45 PM
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J_LEE_C said: beast_regards said: I don't know what is going on anymore after this episode. Well, I didn't know before to be honest, but now it feels completely random. Thank fuck, I'm not the only one that feels this way xD Amen to this! I am just so confused right now lol |
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Yukito-NII said: Well for those of you that don't have a clue to what's going on just try to think about it and you'll see how (somehow) it's all connected (it's always seems so random, but when you look at that, it's actually not, and that's quiet cool) There are probably three different places, two different time machines, two different Setsuna, and who knows how many timelines in between. It's going to be lot of confusing. |
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| So in the dystopian future, people are struggling and are limited on food. And the untagged are children who don't seem to be "registered" on the island? Hmm...what happened here... Nice opening..."Closing Tears" by Yukarin... "Never Island"? Like "Neverland?" Sure, I'll take it. I guess that's what we'll be calling this arc. Oi Karen...I don't mind you rewarding someone with your body...but aren't you a little too young for that? And your underwear... No habitable place anywhere except the Island...what the heck happened to the world? Great Ending theme too. Fitting for this new arc. So Setsuna came forward to the future (or basically returned to his present timeline), was found by Rinne, and now he has to find a way to save everyone in this future world of despair. Things just got interesting! Let's keep it going! |
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| @Yukito-NII Busty Future Sara reveals that surface is frozen, but Future-Rinne already knows that. She have been to the surface, that's where she found the Setsuna capsule in the first place. It's Future-Rinne who gave him warm clothes! We were shown in the flashback. There are also two time capsules, one Setsuna found when he was stuck with the Rinne on the island, and one Karen's mother retrieved 5 years prior when Rinne was stuck on the time-locked island with Old Setsuna. If Rinne didn't drown in Episode 7 or 8, it means she got back to the time-locked island, she could've use the second capsule still left there which means they are two Rinne even! And from where Future-Rinne instruction for the time machine even come from. Karen's mother didn't know how to build one, hence it can't come from the era we saw in between E 1 - 8 |
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| Honestly, the random boob references like 'there you go, looking at here _huge_ boobs again" or "ah, her boobs poked me!" lines really add nothing but cringe. Especially when you're trying to make a very serious episode that changes the setting dramatically. Also, the voice acting for Rinne. Aggggggh. |
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| WAIT A SECOND I remember the start of episode 4 ( i think) where Setsuna was dreaming about an older Sara with big oppai, and she was telling him something like "you can save the island" while dying. OHOH i bet shits gonna be fire in nexrs episodes |
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| A weird episode with the timeline changing along with the scenarios. Felt like I was watching a completely different anime, so that was bizarre. It's interesting in a way, but the way it was presented also made it feel too random. |
Hebi_op said: Can't understand almost nothing. And since i'm kinda liking it, one day or another i'm gonna play the Visual novel This is describing me... also, new OP & ED songs are lit af |
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| even if the anime goes to shit i'm still gonna see this to the end ,was neat doing the name change since we've time traveled i still have Rewrite on my backlog of VNs to get back to but i feel like this would be one to check out also past Rinne > Future Rinne |
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| So, this episode was a complete mindfuck... And, for the first half of it, I really didn’t care for it. But, when Setsuna started to flash back to the island and Rinne we’ve already been following up to this point, I started to have some little hope again. But, it’s still pretty hard to make sense of. First and foremost, I’d assumed this to be the future. And that Setsuna was found by a future girl named Rinne, and is only now beginning to recall why he was cryogenically frozen and sent to the future; To catch up with technology that could send him back into the past, to undo Rinne proper’s apparent death. But, Sara showing up, and being so buxom — which coincides with previous Sara’s recollecting her mother having the same appearance — as well as alternate versions of Karen and Rinne, all threw me for a loop. I’d begun to wonder if the syndrome that kills people who are exposed to sunlight, might somehow be connected to these events, based on what the old man had said. And that made me wonder if this was, in fact, the past. But, based on Setsuna’s own recollection of the former Rinne’s death, we at least know that we’re still following Setsuna proper. And he now seems to believe that he can ‘save the island’ and its people. By which, I think he means, go back in time to save Rinne, and perhaps prevent some catastrophe that entombs the descendants of the island of old, underground in the future. |
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| My god, what an absolute clusterfuck of an anime. It's so retarded. |
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BakaSenpai93 said: I was following this show only because I wanted to hear the voices of Yukarin and Asumi Kana(nyaruko xd) as MC again, even if the show was based on a VN, but after this episode... mmmm, I want to drop it with 5/10 Right now it's between a 2/10 and 3/10 for me. |
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| I really like the art and visual of this anime but the either the plot is moving too fast or it's just too hard for me to comprehend. Another fail VN adaptation sadly.. 3/10 Dropped :( |
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| New OP and ED! Didn't expect them to change it. Though both were good, I liked the previous ones better especially the ED (Eternal Star). Regarding with the story, I don't know what to say anymore. It's great!.... A great mess! -_- It's hard to connect with the characters when the story's not telling you clearly what's going on. So Setsuna time-travelled and then what? Last episode, he said he will save Rinne... and now this episode, he's going to save Island? Seriously! Even the character motive is a scribbly mess! |
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