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Zelev said: What's the difference between the Greater Grail and the other one? Greater Grail collects magical energy over the course of 60 years, chooses masters who want it and helps them summon their servants. Lesser Grail collects the energy of defeated servants within itself, acts as a catalyst to draw out the real holy grail which is in spiritual form. In Apocrypha, the lesser grail was contained within a room inside the hanging gardens that doesn't allow it's contents to spill out, so Shirou can enter the Greater Grail and forcibly activate Heaven's Feel. Shuda- said: @Siv3001 "4) what is this reverse side of the world has it ever been brought up before this? And how on earth does Jeanne even get there? How? And you mean to tell me she stayed thirsty for Sieg for countless centuries?? Wtf why did she even like him? I just don't understand" You know, that this is one timeline out of a massive multi-universe right? The reverse side of the world is an important aspect of the Nasuverse. The Throne of Heroes (Where heroic spirits reside) is outside of the time axis, so while it is God knows how long for Sieg, and us; for Jeanne, it was like retracing her steps over and over a near infinite amount of times until she found it. Educate yourself on Type Moon and Nasuverse, there's a great big wiki with everything. The wiki is full of unmarked spoilers tho, not a good idea unless you've finished all 3 routes of Fate/stay night. |
| Well, if this show had done anything to make me care about any of the characters, this probably would have been a powerful finale, especially with that epilogue. Unfortunately, because this did not happen, the whole thing kinda fell flat and I was just glad for it to be over. Overall, while Apocrypha had its moments, it was overall fairly disappointing and tedious to work through, and the strong character work seen in the other anime entries in the Fate series was almost entirely absent here. 7/10 |
| Finally! this Crap is over. 5/10 |
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| My problem with this was that the whole series introduced some great characters but mostly focused on the less interesting ones. Oh well, the finale was great tbh, not the series as a whole though. Had it's moments but the rest was pretty average. generous 6/10 |
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| Good ending and nice closure for this brilliant show. So Astolfo remain. |
| 'America is a stolen country' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SM8WZ0ztMuc Zapredon said: It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person. Totally agree! |
stelios said: Not for fighting, he isn'tThis really was a trainwreck. I will ignore all other major flaws and just ask this: Why was Shakespeare so useless? It doesn't make any sense. He is more famous than most servants there. |
| The final Shirou/Semiramis scene is easily the best part of the whole series while Jeanne's confession was absolutely terrible just like any of Sieg's asspulls. Semi is the best girl. Even though many important scenes were completely cut out, I would still give the show 7/10 because a few moments were really impactful. |
Mil_MilJan 2, 2018 12:31 AM
| Happy end to the story, when the blonde "saint" declares her loves to the "Dragon"!!!! kekeke |
| Pretty meh show overall. SemiramisxShiro was more believable than the FafnirxJeanne. Also, I think I'm kinda forgetting something but how Shiro's wish was accepted even before the winner was declared? |
| one of the worst endings I've seen. some of the characters were quite interesting but they decided to focus on the crapheads that Jeanne, Sieg, Astolfo + Fiore are. Shirou's character was flushed down the toilet like he wasn't an antagonist at all. kden. well I'm thankful to this anime for my waifu Semiramis at least. thank god it's over |
So based on this image we can safely say that the Shrio we kew from Fate/Stay is the same one who just turned evil. Am, I right???? |
| I thought she was going to say: Sieg, I'm pregnant! Overall, I think this was bellow average for another fate route... Now, I hope Last Encore is at least good! |
| So it is over. Although show wasn't that good and many stuff felt like asspulls in the end, I kinda liked how it all ended. My favorite moments were Shakespare's end and the last moment between Shiro and Assassin, which was really touching. |
| No seriously why is Astolfo still alive? I don't care about any of the other asspulls since I'm not a Fate fan and basically hatewatched this from the start but Astolfo still being alive and having mana doesn't make any sense unless he's hunting magus like Jack the Ripper did and that seems extremely out of character |
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| Story was a trainwrack with to much plot armor for sieg. at least the assassin ship sailed |
| Yea... I was expecting some kind of BS ending but no it wasn't BS ending it was just BAD ending, not that I expected anything better... well I guess it's still better than resurrection-wish so maybe I should call it Meh ending instead. Oh well I had enough of this enough, it's not like the story was a good part of this anime anyway so why say it was bad yet again... those that reached this point simply accepted that the story is garbage but servant battles are awesome therefore here we are... To be honest for a fate series I expected something better but well I did get my servant fights alright so I won't say anything else. |
HereticHunter said: dont we all like Ner. xD personally my fav Saber there sIt was quite a nice ride overall, maybe underwhelming when it comes to what Ufotable is capable of doing, but it wasn't that bad 7/10 now, I can't wait for Fate/Extra... CAN'T WAIT FOR THE GLORIOUS NERO CLAUDIUS @DarkAngelWJ xP |
| i wish and dream for the Future where everyone i care can Smile happily from their heart. But no matter where i look. how ever i see... there s no me. im not there. Just like that. |
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Fu-reiji said: Excuse me? Where and how is educating yourself on something objective like lore to answer one's own questions, a bad recommendation? Where and how is you telling me to educate myself on something subjective like a review on story writing and directing relevant? I never said it was a masterpiece; hell it's one of the weaker representations. Instead of bashing and spamming questions here about content you aren't informed about, one can find all their answers on their own if directed towards it, no? Get good.Shuda- said: @Siv3001 "4) what is this reverse side of the world has it ever been brought up before this? And how on earth does Jeanne even get there? How? And you mean to tell me she stayed thirsty for Sieg for countless centuries?? Wtf why did she even like him? I just don't understand" You know, that this is one timeline out of a massive multi-universe right? The reverse side of the world is an important aspect of the Nasuverse. The Throne of Heroes (Where heroic spirits reside) is outside of the time axis, so while it is God knows how long for Sieg, and us; for Jeanne, it was like retracing her steps over and over a near infinite amount of times until she found it. Educate yourself on Type Moon and Nasuverse, there's a great big wiki with everything. they are educated it's really stupid and a play by play copy of how they did artoria and shirou. how bout you educate yourself first in story writing and directing before you tell another person to educate himself on a series that had a lore behind it. |
Kayaba-Jan 1, 2018 5:06 PM
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| i really enjoyed this final episode, starting with Semiramis (damn her voice was pretty nice too), and with all the Astolfo and Leaticia + Jeanne and Sieg interactions yay Astolfo actually won the war, great =D even i know it wouldn't be possible if he wasn't the "partner" of the protagonist, since he isn't really the strongest hero, but let me still be happy lol |
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| I'm a sucker for good endings. But I prefer Artoria and emiya than Jeanne and Sieg. Nice to have more Waver scenes too. |
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| SO Sieg is freed from the dragon or what ? and what happened with Jeanne and how did they even meet ? |
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| I liked this finale a lot myself, proper closure to everyone(that alone is something many anime don't do these days...) and even Sieg's part was unique. Granted,it could've been done by Siegfried as well if he never died ~ some people,myself included,would've most likely preferred that, some wouldn't but can't please 'em all. Shirou & Semiramis's part was particularly bitter-sweet to me. The dude got to go out in peace knowing his wish was already in effect & on the lap of one fine servant. Just for the lols though: Imagine if it was Urobutcher writing this. He'd probably make sure to keep Shirou alive long enough for him to just see dragon-transformed-Sieg flying off with the grail and die out while screaming in despair. So is it weird to like this more than the UBW anime? I made my dislike of MCs FSN Shirou & Sieg(well,at least in a Fate series,I'll take 'em in a RomCom any day)pretty apparent in ep 24 thread but besides those few annoying moments, Apocrypha was fine. Whereas UBW it's like if you don't like Shirou, you're pretty screwed trying to enjoy it as he just overtakes the whole show. |
| Oh man, what an absolute mess of a show. I wanted so desperately to enjoy this but it was just so haphazardly thrown together that they made it so damned difficult to do so. If it wasn't for the nice music and good animation (for the most part) I think it would have been even a lower score for me. What a retarded ending too. |
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| so it's over it was nice |
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Fu-reiji said: Shuda- said: Excuse me? Where and how is educating yourself on something objective like lore to answer one's own questions, a bad recommendation? Where and how is you telling me to educate myself on something subjective like a review on story writing and directing relevant? I never said it was a masterpiece; hell it's one of the weaker representations. Instead of bashing and spamming questions here about content you aren't informed about, one can find all their answers on their own if directed towards it, no? Get good. if you were ever a fan of anything and had basic understanding in those 2 subjects you would not be here doing the opposite and telling people that it's good and trying to make excuses for a really bad story when literally everything about it was an ass pull where it's biggest highlight comes in at episode 22 and half of 23 and that's about it. so again try explaining why apocrypha was good in any way without trying to make an excuse for it when it's obvious the author had no idea what he was doing or where he wanted to go for that story. Since we're here making assumptions of people. What if I told you, that being a long time fan and editor, that I can indulge myself in both the successful projects and also the more controversial ones? Once again, I never said it was a masterpiece or defended it. I merely pointed someone asking questions about the universe, to the encyclopedia. Something doesn't have to be good for one to enjoy parts of it. You're way too closed minded, and bias against something you didn't like. Think of it this way. I can like, and accept Fate/Apocrypha regardless of the bolded. |
Kayaba-Dec 16, 2020 2:10 PM
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| Wait, wait, wait... If Zero never happened, how did Waver manage to reference Rider? He was never a master to begin with, right? Could someone clarify this? |
Actar said: Wait, wait, wait... If Zero never happened, how did Waver manage to reference Rider? He was never a master to begin with, right? Could someone clarify this? They met in one of the many pseudo HGW that happened in the world after the Fuyuki Grail was stolen. |
| I'm a little confused as to how Jeanne met up with Sieg at the end. Ok, she somehow managed to get out of the Throne of Heroes and into the Reverse Side, I get that. But if Servants are just copies of the Heroic Spirits in the Throne, then how did the original Jeanne know about the promise? |
"I ask you, are you my master?"  |
RadTicTacs said: then how did the original Jeanne know about the promise? The original receives the memories of the copy |
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| The ending really is not bad. A bit shocking it got a score of 7.1 and it seems to kept droping. it was a solid anime that let me watch till the end without dropping. the animation, art and music were very godly. one of the animes that kept u interested till the end comparing to previous fate stay nights is a bad idea imo |
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| Yes, Astolfo survived!! |
| No, i think you are a mistake, it is not the best of this franchise anime series!! |
-RenRen- said: RadTicTacs said: then how did the original Jeanne know about the promise? The original receives the memories of the copy Huh, I was under the impression that a Servant's memories just kinda vanish after they die, but upon looking it up it seems a record of the memories does go back to the Throne. I learned something new about Fate today. Thanks. Although it is odd that Jeanne the Heroic Spirit kept the emotions from Jeanne the Ruler Servant, but i guess their love was just too great? Oh well |
"I ask you, are you my master?" |
| Shakespeare still the best, the end, 6/10. Nothing to say really, it was another fate series... It was fine I guess, but thats about it really. This was just something I watched because it was there and I had free time. And I wanted too place bets on who died when. |
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| IMO a better end than UBW. |
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