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Dec 2, 2017 7:21 AM
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Oh shit, Astolfo is not messing around. He got serious in his fight and it showed what he's capable of.

Karna also got his moment to shine About time he gets into the action again!
From all the buildup, this episode was actually worth waiting considering the amount of action they poured in. Poor Astolfo though. He got outmatched still..

Mordred's entrance into the fight was dope.
Chiron and Achilles still had their personal rivalry going on which turned into a fist fight. (I found that strangely amusing)

Atalanta's vengeance reached a new level....wow.
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Dec 2, 2017 11:44 AM
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Great episode. Astolfo doing good work this episode finally, even though it caused him to lose his mount and be nearly drained.. Still cant wait for Shakespeare to fight even though we know his only strength is in writing and his NP. Great fight with Chiron and Achilles with Achilles getting hit by Chiron's NP which greatly cost him a LOT but we wont find out til later (unless you can look between the lines and understand why this hit is almost a death blow to him). Atalanta invoking her Beast form was great yet sad. And the final part after credits shows two riders who are just tired and need a break lol
Dec 2, 2017 2:03 PM
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How unfortunate...

Semiramis!!! (T_T)

I was hoping to see Semiramis finish off Astolfo but it got ruined by Chiron's miserable entrance. Uuuu~
And then, Karna got beaten by Sieg, how could this be possible!?
Dec 2, 2017 2:09 PM
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Chiron and Achilles were GAR as fuck this episode. They fought with their fists, like true men (on another note, Achilles's VA is the same dude who voices Saitama, so that final punch who gives him the victory was a bit hilarious).
R.I.P Chiron, your death wasn't in vain.

Atalanta became a crazy bitch at the end, lmao. Cannot wait to see what her new NP is able to do.
Dec 2, 2017 11:35 PM
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Both the animation and the soundtrack were decent. The only problems were the sound effects, especially during that laser fight wtf.

Sieg vs Aka no Lancer, great.
Astolfo got almost killed but Mordred saves the day by trying to perform a terrorist attack on Semiramis.
Achilles and Chiron both pulled a good fight. It was funny to see Chiron trolling Achilles with his NP at the end. Anyway R.I.P. Chiron. During the first episodes I was rooting for Achilles to win the fight but I rooted for neither in this one. (Chiron's death was somehow predictable tho, like a disciple beating his master fight but it was still cool)

Atalanta being stupid as ever. I guess Aka no Rider is going to ask Kuro no Rider to stop her ?

With Chiron dead, is it safe to assume the Yggdemillenia have lost the war ? He seemed to be the last representant of the black side to me since Sieg/Astolfo/Jeanne and Mordred aren't really affiliated to them.

Also, one funny thing I noticed is how servant-only is this war if we forget about GoLion.
Dec 3, 2017 6:19 AM
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I think something is wrong. When Sieg went down to fight Karna, Astolfo suddenly got nerfed. How can he lose will all powerful anti-magic book and dimensional shift? Well, I think I know but let's see when the subs come out.
Dec 3, 2017 6:44 AM
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RIP Chiron, it was a cool fight and he went down taking Achilles's Inmortality with him.
Astolfo lost hippogriff but he managed to suvive.
Atalanta now is going full berserk mode against Ruler, I expect their fight in next episode and hopefully, Archer goes down for good.
Dec 3, 2017 2:15 PM
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I think something is wrong. When Sieg went down to fight Karna, Astolfo suddenly got nerfed. How can he lose will all powerful anti-magic book and dimensional shift? Well, I think I know but let's see when the subs come out.


He had no more prana source from him. That's why. When he was with Sieg he was using a lot of prana from him. Actually what it made him lose the first time against Semiramis was that he didn't wanted to absorb the energy from the homunculi.
Dec 3, 2017 8:06 PM
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Ruler: You can't use your command spell
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Sieg: With my command spell i .... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Dec 3, 2017 8:24 PM

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A lot of cool fights in this episode. Astolfo was badass taking down all of the defenses surrounding the Hanging Gardens, but it sucks that he ended up losing Hippogriff. He almost lost his life too, but Mordred's kamikaze saved him last minute (I actually almost forgot about Mordred and GoLion lol).

Chiron vs. Achilles was a great fight to watch. RIP Chiron, but he managed to land a significant blow to Achilles' heel before dying. Sieg vs. Karna was brief, so hopefully we get back to that fight soon. Looks like we're going to see Atalanta vs. Ruler next, and Ruler might have a hard time with Atalanta after she got that crazy power-up.
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Dec 3, 2017 8:41 PM

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Mordred nose-dived outta nowhere was hilarious

Achilles basically used The World Over Heaven lol....so i half-wished Chiron to ORAORA

Dec 3, 2017 8:49 PM

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Good episode.

Astolfo showing his stuff but it almost felt like Karna was just playing tag with Astolfo in order to draw out Siegfried.
I so wanted Semiramis to kill Astolfo but that Mordred kamikaze. xD

Chiron vs Achilles was the highlight of the episode and it was pretty awesome. The antares strike at the end was great and even though Archer lost. he was able to do some significant damage to Achilles.

Jeanne vs Atalanta next.
Dec 3, 2017 8:49 PM
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Did they really off-screen Semiramis after Mordred's fucking kamikaze attack? I really hope that isn't the case...

And even worse, they let that fucking retarded trap survive. Just when I thought this anime couldn't get any worse...
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Great fight scene between Chiron and Achilles. Of course Sieg transforms again. Next episode I really just want to see Morded do something.
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Dec 3, 2017 10:02 PM
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Can anyone answer this question? (Hope I didnt get the scene wrong)

At the end of Chiron VS Achilles fight, Chiron requested Achilles to transfer part of his NP to one his teammate?

Achilles says he would think about it.


I assume the last part of the 2 riders (Achilles and Astolfo). Achilles plans to transfer his NP to Astolfo?


(IF anyone wants to rewatch the scene it will be 17min 30s. and 17min59s whereby Chiron made the request) (23min 53s whereby Achilles entrusted his NP)


Why did he picked Astolfo? and for what purpose to transfer NP? thank you!
Dec 3, 2017 10:54 PM

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Astolfo shows (finally) that he's not just a trap. Assassin of Red still thinks that Astolfo is a girl tho, lol.

Duel between teacher and apprentice was cool. Want to see more of Achilles next.

Also crazy-neko-chan next week...
Dec 4, 2017 12:13 AM
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Well, this is near to end!!!
Nice episode!!!
Dec 4, 2017 2:11 AM

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I loved that fist fight!
Dec 4, 2017 2:13 AM

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I was so worried about Astolfo there ,couldn't have handled his death :/

Loved the slugfest between Achilles and Chiron,that shit was awesome.And I kinda felt Chirons end,but he didn't go down without a blast,pretty cunning of him.

Ruler vs Atalanta seems like it's going to be lit too,especially since the latter one took her "berserker" form.

Interested to see how the encounter of Astolfo and Achilles is going to play out,think Achilles might fulfill the last request of his former master.

Overall this episode was pretty great and how Fate should be.

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Dec 4, 2017 3:19 AM
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A NP that ignores luck? Truly the dream of every Lancer! How ironic it would be if Achilles was actually summoned as a Lancer...

FMmatron said:
Overall this episode was pretty great and how Fate should be.


Apocrypha as a work can't really be used as an example of how Fate should be.
Dec 4, 2017 3:26 AM

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A NP that ignores luck? Truly the dream of every Lancer! How ironic it would be if Achilles was actually summoned as a Lancer...

FMmatron said:
Overall this episode was pretty great and how Fate should be.


Apocrypha as a work can't really be used as an example of how Fate should be.


I was talking about this episode specifically, in terms of action this was pretty much how it should be executed imo.

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Dec 4, 2017 5:53 AM

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Even Semiramis thought Astolfo was a girl lol
So Achilles made up his mind and decided to give one of his NPs to Astolfo
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Dec 4, 2017 6:26 AM

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Achilles and Chiron was a great fight, easily one of the best in the series so far. Rest of the episode should have been exciting, but was ultimately pretty tedious due to Astolfo's plot armour and due to it being blatantly obvious that Ruler will not lose.
Dec 4, 2017 6:40 AM

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That was a cool fight.
Dec 4, 2017 6:58 AM

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damn, I can't wait for Apocrypha collab event in FGO.
Dec 4, 2017 7:57 AM

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How unfortunate...

Semiramis!!! (T_T)

I was hoping to see Semiramis finish off Astolfo but it got ruined by Chiron's miserable entrance. Uuuu~
And then, Karna got beaten by Sieg, how could this be possible!?

Yeah I hoped that Semiramis would have finished him off too... he really had a good luck...
Dec 4, 2017 10:28 AM

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Izanagi said:
How unfortunate...

Semiramis!!! (T_T)

I was hoping to see Semiramis finish off Astolfo but it got ruined by Chiron's miserable entrance. Uuuu~
And then, Karna got beaten by Sieg, how could this be possible!?


Don't you mean Mordred tho?
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Dec 4, 2017 10:34 AM

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Great fight scene between Chiron and Achilles. Of course Sieg transforms again and unfortunately Astolfo died. Next episode I really just want to see Morded do something.


Astolfo Didn't die, didn't you see the post credits scene?

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Well that was a cool episode with good amount of action, Chiron vs Achilles was a really good fight with deep meaning within them both.

So Atalante went full berserk... I'll stick with Fate/Go's Atalante then

Mordred brilliant scene tho...
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Its seem everyone on Fate/Apocrypha think Astolfo are girl.

How did Sieg know Astolfo are male and thought its normal to think Astolfo male?
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Dec 4, 2017 11:07 AM

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Lol, Assassin fell for TRAP :DDD


Nice fist fight.
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Dec 4, 2017 11:56 AM
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Chiron died like a champ. That's the first death in this show that made me sad, i really liked the man.

His fight with Achilles was straight up Naruto hand-to-hand combat, pretty fucking awesome, that was the best fight so far in this series.
Dec 4, 2017 1:03 PM
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The history of humanity is indeed a bloodstained tapestry filled with war. But its kinda sad having a teacher and a student fight against each other though. Astolfo really gave it his all to take down the garden's defences though. But Mordred's entrance sure was dramatic. Achilles's noble phantasm though sure was surprising. To think that the fight between the two turned into a fistfight though. Chiron at least died giving his all though as any servant will want to. Fiore will be proud and sad to feel his passing though. To think that Atalanta would go that far to get revenge on Ruler. Transforming into a animal was the last thing i expected from her. The final battles sure are proving to be most interesting though. Can't wait to see how this will end.
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My boi Astolfo!!! cool as ever.
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Dec 4, 2017 1:39 PM
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Praise to the great fight, felt like a naruto fight to me but seeing Achilles duking it out with archer was intense and i genuinely didnt know who had the upper hand for most the fight but was great none the less and astolfo did something
Dec 4, 2017 1:40 PM
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Shingster said:
The history of humanity is indeed a bloodstained tapestry filled with war. But its kinda sad having a teacher and a student fight against each other though. Astolfo really gave it her all to take down the garden's defences though. But Mordred's entrance sure was dramatic. Achilles's noble phantasm though sure was surprising. To think that the fight between the two turned into a fistfight though. Chiron at least died giving his all though as any servant will want to. Fiore will be proud and sad to feel his passing though. To think that Atalanta would go that far to get revenge on Ruler. Transforming into a animal was the last thing i expected from her. The final battles sure are proving to be most interesting though. Can't wait to see how this will end.
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Dec 4, 2017 1:42 PM
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Izanagi said:
How unfortunate...

Semiramis!!! (T_T)

I was hoping to see Semiramis finish off Astolfo but it got ruined by Chiron's miserable entrance. Uuuu~
And then, Karna got beaten by Sieg, how could this be possible!?

Yeah I hoped that Semiramis would have finished him off too... he really had a good luck...
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was so happy when Astolfo turned out to be alive (thank you Saber for taking on the annoying thing of a woman)

really don't get why they had to get rid of awesome characters like Vlad and Frankenstein so early on...they could've just get rid of Semiramis and Atlanta instead, can't stand them both

Chiron managed to stay noble till the end
Dec 4, 2017 2:04 PM
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Ah really i always thought that Astolfo was a woman based on her mannerisms

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Shingster said:
The history of humanity is indeed a bloodstained tapestry filled with war. But its kinda sad having a teacher and a student fight against each other though. Astolfo really gave it her all to take down the garden's defences though. But Mordred's entrance sure was dramatic. Achilles's noble phantasm though sure was surprising. To think that the fight between the two turned into a fistfight though. Chiron at least died giving his all though as any servant will want to. Fiore will be proud and sad to feel his passing though. To think that Atalanta would go that far to get revenge on Ruler. Transforming into a animal was the last thing i expected from her. The final battles sure are proving to be most interesting though. Can't wait to see how this will end.
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Nop, i suppose that the end will be different than the common!!!
Dec 4, 2017 3:15 PM
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The teacher and disciple fight was the only one I liked (so far), even though the sounds were quite awful.The quality of the whole series, as well as the story itself, are reaching lows unimaginable before.
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Chiron and Achilles battled each other with their bare hands and feet inside Achilles NB, which did surprise me at first. However, it did make one hell of an exciting fight from start to finish. =)

Astolfo did a pretty good job in bringing down the stone pillars too, with the help of his NB, although he's injured though. After Mordred made her dynamic entry into the fight, Astolfo woke up and saw Achilles, victorious with his fight against Chiron. I'm curious about what Achilles wanted to speak to Astolfo, so I hope the reason is revealed in the next episode. =)
Dec 4, 2017 4:43 PM
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Great episode. Astolfo doing good work this episode finally, even though it caused him to lose his mount and be nearly drained.. Still cant wait for Shakespeare to fight even though we know his only strength is in writing and his NP. Great fight with Chiron and Achilles with Achilles getting hit by Chiron's NP which greatly cost him a LOT but we wont find out til later (unless you can look between the lines and understand why this hit is almost a death blow to him). Atalanta invoking her Beast form was great yet sad. And the final part after credits shows two riders who are just tired and need a break lol
Chiron definitely won that fight he had the last blow and got achilies by surprise lol
Dec 4, 2017 4:45 PM
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FMmatron said:
I was so worried about Astolfo there ,couldn't have handled his death :/

Loved the slugfest between Achilles and Chiron,that shit was awesome.And I kinda felt Chirons end,but he didn't go down without a blast,pretty cunning of him.

Ruler vs Atalanta seems like it's going to be lit too,especially since the latter one took her "berserker" form.

Interested to see how the encounter of Astolfo and Achilles is going to play out,think Achilles might fulfill the last request of his former master.

Overall this episode was pretty great and how Fate should be.
its funny how semiramis thought astolfo was a girl lol
Dec 4, 2017 4:47 PM
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Dope h2h combat one of the best fights but I think Chiron def won that fight he had the last blow after all. And semiramis thinking astolfo was a girl was hilarious
Dec 4, 2017 4:48 PM
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Chiron was the man ll miss him
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Nyatalanta ready to tear some anuses open.

Dec 4, 2017 5:44 PM
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That fight was fucking LIIIIIT when it came to the fight scenes, its pretty much what I like to see. Though yeah, RIP Chiron, of course it was supposed to be expected.

Atalanta going Berserk mode which is of course, expected due to the outcome, but holy shit she's fucking mad so much. Love it. Can't believe that I like her more by comparison Heh xD
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Lol dark version of Atlanta reminds me of the servant of God from Mirai Nikki when she went berserk mode.

Anywho, the fight scenes were probably the best this time around, but it still could have been better. Rider of Black probably won't die because plot armor.





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Sigh, waiting for this one to just be over at this point. It's just getting so mundane which is a damn shame. I mostly blame JC Staff because I just don't think the direction is very good.
Dec 4, 2017 8:35 PM
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Its seem everyone on Fate/Apocrypha think Astolfo are girl.

How did Sieg know Astolfo are male and thought its normal to think Astolfo male?


Maybe cause Sieg was homunculus. So gender meant nothing to him. Probably assume all homunculus were 'it'
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