Watching Fate kaleid liner prisma illya oath under snow movie without knowing almost everything.

Maruko-san said:
I have watch both Fate/stay night UBW and Fate/Zero. But I did not watch fate/kaleid at all, so can I still enjoy the movie without being confuse?

Swagernator said:

This movie has three seasons as prequels, so what do you think ?

DNI_R said:
I guess you can. Lets be real here. Do you really want to watch 4 seasons of magic girl/gimmicky "fate fanservice" stuff? I think not many people do, that haven't already tried it yet and it is really hard to convince them that the show is worth their time, because the exterior of the show is very off-putting.
As far as i know, this movie is much more serious and without any magical girl stuff, also it is a prequel so there shouldn't be a need for external knowledge. So it probably is safe for you to watch it and you might even enjoy it (if Silver Link didn't mess up action and animation this time).

The problem is, that your friend will probably have the same low quality youtube rip with korean hardsubs that is floating on internet. So i really doubt it is going to be enjoyable to watch especially on bigger screen. In that regard you might be better without watching it in that way.

Aiko_Hiroshi said:
Fate Kaleid isn't just magical girl/fanservicey stuff, it's a full fledged Fate series that has a bunch of different elements. In terms of how serious the series has been, the tone from 3rei carried over to this movie so acting like this arc/movie is the only worthwhile part of the series is ridiculous. This may be a "Prequel" but it's meant to be viewed after the first 4 seasons and that's how it played out in the manga, it brings up terms and plotpoints you wouldn't understand otherwise. The 5th season is going to continue directly after too, carrying over the tone from this arc with Shirou. Getting sick of people acting like fanservice makes a series inherently bad.

DNI_R said:

You misunderstood me. I just meant to say, that that's how it looks to people that never heard of Kaleid Liner. At least in my environment no one is interested in the show because of magical girls and fanservice and it is extremely hard to convince them that the show might be worth their time. And even then, the whole first season is nothing, but that + action. I get that you are a big fan of series and manga, and I definitely don't say that show is bad, i watched all 4 seasons of it, but my statement is that its exterior is off-putting and not many people are going to watch the series because of that.
And i get what you want to say, but i really doubt that the movie may be completely impossible to enjoy if taken out of context. Sure, there might be stuff that the person is not going to understand, but if he doesn't care about the whole Kaleid Liner series, i can't see how that is a bad thing to watch only this movie out of context for such an occasion and not to enjoy it to some extent especially when he already knows a bit about Fate, so it will just play like some alternate story to him. Sure, i haven't watched the movie myself yet, and i can be wrong, in that case i apologize, but this is my speculation.

Aiko_Hiroshi said:


You're definitely wrong about enjoying it as a stand alone, because it has a cliff hanger ending that leads back into the actual plot of the series and doesn't make sense without knowing the series itself. Nothing concerning the villains, the fate of certain characters, etc, is actually resolved in the movie/arc itself. This is true because the movie itself is just an adaptation of the next arc of the manga which is presented narration style by Shirou, so while it may be a prequel in the timeline it still was presented in the manga after knowing all the events leading to Shirou telling the story of this arc. There is no actual speculation, go watch it for yourself and confirm what I'm saying (Since what I'm saying are actual facts).

KingOfSherous said:

I've watched it, and while characters like Angelica and the short appearance Darius don't make much sense without having watched 3rei, I think it works well enough as a prequel to Kaleid. Most of the stuff needed to appreciate the film, such as You probably can't watch it and then just forget about Kaleid, because there's a lot of stuff unresolved, but you can probably introduce Kaleid through this movie and have someone watch the rest of the series if they can stomach the lolis. It's kind of like having someone watch Zero before Stay Night (cue the massive watch order arguments), where it's of course HIGHLY recommended to read the source material first, but there's nothing truly wrong with having watched the prequel as a standalone, especially if they have BIG reservations about watching the rest.

However, watching this movie without any prior Fate/ experience is a MASSIVE mistake. The movie only truly works as a response to the themes covered in Zero and Stay Night, and it relies on knowing the general characters of Kerry and Shirou, along with some idea of how the Nasuverse itself works. So for the person who posted this topic, I would not recommend this movie to them.

Aiko_Hiroshi said:


I disagree but only because I think the people with reservations are dumb. It's fucking stupid for people that shit on the Prisma Illya series to jump on and enjoy one of the best arcs just because the focus isn't on Illya (and the fanservice is not there for this arc) and still refuse to watch any other part of the series afterwards. Honestly I just want those type of shit fans to stay out of my favorite Fate series if they're only interested only when it aligns with their interests. God this crap pisses me off.

KingOfSherous said:

I guess you can consider me a shit fan, because most of Kaleid outside of 3rei is just too creepy for me, and I wouldn' t force those parts on anyone. I absolutely love what the author does with Nasuverse lore, but the fact that its sandwiched in between lots of fanservice is a major turnoff.

KingOfSherous said:
but the fact that its sandwiched in between lots of fanservice is a major turnoff.

Swagernator said:


Fate franchise was built on stones of fanservice, but now it's problem lol.

KingOfSherous said:
*sandwiched in between lots of loli fanservice. Happy now?

Swagernator said:
Just watch Zero it's the best and it's the original.

Hans_0819 said:


"it's the original", that what a casual that claims to be an expert on the fate franchise would say, it would be a bad choice for anyone to follow your recommendations on the subject.

Swagernator said:

This movie has three seasons as prequels, so what do you think ?

Swagernator said:
Just watch Zero it's the best and it's the original.