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TheSingular said: Ratohnhaketon said: As an anime only watcher, I'm sure I don't have this down pat. I welcome any corrections or clarifications from VN readers as I'm sort of swinging in the dark on this, but just to recap: Season 1 sets the scene for the bigger problem. It introduces us to Kotarou and the core cast as well as the battle between Gaia & Guardian over the Key (which takes the form of Kagari). It's one of the many timelines/possible futures for humanity that's cut short due to a lack of resources. In season 2, it's revealed that Kotarou has lived and experienced multiple timelines in which he had a myriad of different possibilities with each of the five girls. But throughout each one, he had always either given up on Kagari as a whole or protected her until the end. In between each timeline, he'd be reborn on the moon, in which Kagari would kill him and he'd start the cycle again. In this case, however, he contributed to her research and helped her find the possibility that would work, with everyone sending Kotarou off to save the world in its final tribulation. And so in this final timeline, Kotarou is significantly older than the girls. From what I gather, this was so he could end the war between Gaia and Guardian and protect them from getting dragged in. As for Kagari, he wanted to show her fond memories in order to convince her humanity was worth saving. In the end, however, he was moments too late and had to kill her to stop the final judgement. After that...I'm not exactly sure what happened. The girls brought Kotarou back as a monster and he rewrote their commands to go see Kagari again? Either way, it was a whirlwind of overwhelming emotions in this final episode. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well as a whole, I found this second season far more enjoyable than the first. Perhaps it was partly because of how the bigger picture was finally forming. In hindsight, the concept of the Earth managing its resources to ensure its survival is very much a fascinating thought to ponder on. It also felt more compelling, especially since Kotarou was stumbling through the final timeline unaware of his past lives and promise to Kagari until the very end. Particularly that time he spent in the war zone was very heavy. In some strange way, it reminded me of the magnitude of Charlotte (only better). 7.5/10 Let me give you a quick rundown of some of the differences of the anime and VN and a summary of those routes from the VN that exists in both anime and VN(Main Heroine's routes don't exist in the anime, at least not completely). I'll put it in a spoiler tag just to be safe Thanks for the summary. It was a little hard to sort through the entire two seasons and come out with a viable story in my mind. |
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| That Shizuru at the end, lifting her eye patch in such surprise lol Pretty enjoyable show. More of a reason to play the VN once it comes out for PS4 or so I heard. I really liked Akane's personality, she can be smug at times and be very cute. That kiss with Kagari so beautiful. I enjoyed season 2 more season 1. 8/10 |
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| Most of the ep went bouncer over my head. Most people still died, maybe that's why it was called 'cruel process of selection'. The 'culling' of humanity taught them some lesson. Kotarou finally sees Kagari after million years of re-evolution and the girls just stare them kissing. So what was the gag about Kagari nibbling Koutarou's hand??? |
rinneganfire4u said: (...)So what was the gag about Kagari nibbling Koutarou's hand??? S1? She was attracted by her ribbon (aurora) which Kotori implanted inside Kotarou's arm to save his life (close his wounds) when Kagari attacked him 10 years ago. [edit]^ Yes rodiel is right, I didn't notice ^ |
1032patrick said: The girls revived on the moon...What timeline are they or maybe the convergence of all...Same with Koutaro? They were a convergence. |
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Rodielx said: rinneganfire4u said: So what was the gag about Kagari nibbling Koutarou's hand??? That's because Kotori used part of Kagari's ribbons to re-attach Kotarou's arm or maybe replace part of it I don't know, when Kotarou chooses to attack Kagari 10 years before the common route where he's in school with all the girls. Kagari feels instinctively attracted to something that is basically part of her concentrating in Kotarou's arm. Thanks for answering... A question I had in mind for quite a while, is Kagari the only Key in Kazamatsuri?? Does she assess the situation only there, and even if rest of the world is peaceful, will she bring ruin due to conflict in certain pockets of the world?? |
Rodielx said: Oh i see, that's why Kotarou remembers some faint memory on the world in season 1. I tried installing the Visual Novel several times before the season 2 is aired but it just won't. Huhu.1032patrick said: Can someone explain the relation of season 1 and 2....After their deaths in season one what happened? Koutaro on the moon and vanished again..Humanity starts again?... Please someone explain..I am really confused..Thanks Kyamana said: After their deaths on Season 1, it turns out that it was just another parallel world. If you already finished watching the 2nd season it shows that after that Kotarou enters a loop in which everytime he is killed by Kagari in that cliff he wakes up in a different parallel world with different routes. The way the anime adapted Rewrite it might seem like Kotarou is going to a different parallel world, which aren't really parallel they're just different possibilities, every time Kagari kills him, but it isn't really like that, Kotarou was just remembering the worlds a little more vividly each time he woke up. In the VN we see that actually Kotarou spends a huge amount of time (millions of years, in Moon the concept of time isn't supposed to exist) just getting close to Kagari and another huge amount of time helping her with her research, all of that without "going back" to a possible world. The relation between season 1 and season 2 is that the world we see in season 1 is just one of the possible worlds that Kagari is researching, in that world Kotarou gets close to Kagari and couldn't kill her to stop Salvation (If he killed her, Earth would've died later anyway so it wasn't the answer to the research), aside from season 1's there are many other worlds where Kotarou ends up with another heroine. Then we see in Season 2 episode 3 that thanks to Kotarou, Kagari finds a possible worlds in which Earths is saved, so she implements that world and sends all the life energy from the Moon to the Earth so that life can start again, but this time with a kind of "programming" in which Kotarou ultimately saves Earth from dying. |
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| Overall, this was much better than the first season and was far more enjoyable. If they had this type of adaptation in the first season covering Kotori's route only, it would have been fine. As a VN reader, it was nice seeing a lot of things animated and I obviously understood everything that was going on so I could follow the story. However, as a standalone anime? This was a failure. This thread is proof that people are still confused as fuck, the pacing had some major issues, and it was hard to connect some things you saw in this season because... those things were explained in the other routes that were never adapted. This show really deserved like 50+ episodes. But as a VN reader, I feel satisfied. Was going to give it a 6, but because of VN bias I'm pushing it up to a 7/10. PS: The ending was nice but I'm confused how that could happen since I thought Kagari was a little sprout and Kotarou wasn't really what he used to be, but whatever I guess you could say that he retained his original personality (I mean Sakuya did after all) and Kagari kept her human form waiting for that moment. It was a nice ending though.  exleader75 said: I remember that I was so excited when this adaptation was announced. Now I'm sort of sad to see it end, but I still want a re-adaptation that will probably never happen. Remembering where I was before it started and now... man, quite the journey haha. I too hope the readaptation (that will never happen) happens one day too. |
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| It was emotional finale. Rushed nonetheless. But there are some things that i'm confused about - 1. He kissed Kagari of the moon and not the earth Kagari at the end, right? (Obvious but still asking to be sure) 2. After Koutarou turns familiar with his memories gone, during the journey to the moon, why did he turned back to his teen form and remembers Kagari? And with emotions no less. Does it mean he or everyone gained memories of their past lives or was that just symbolism for the happy ending? The adaptation was rushed. It had the potential to be even loads better than this. I still enjoyed it tho. Not really fond of sad and bittersweet endings :c Wanted a full fledged happy ending, but oh well. 7/10 |
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LoomyTheBrew said: Overall, this was much better than the first season and was far more enjoyable. If they had this type of adaptation in the first season covering Kotori's route only, it would have been fine. As a VN reader, it was nice seeing a lot of things animated and I obviously understood everything that was going on so I could follow the story. However, as a standalone anime? This was a failure. This thread is proof that people are still confused as fuck, the pacing had some major issues, and it was hard to connect some things you saw in this season because... those things were explained in the other routes that were never adapted. This show really deserved like 50+ episodes. But as a VN reader, I feel satisfied. Was going to give it a 6, but because of VN bias I'm pushing it up to a 7/10. PS: The ending was nice but I'm confused how that could happen since I thought Kagari was a little sprout and Kotarou wasn't really what he used to be, but whatever I guess you could say that he retained his original personality (I mean Sakuya did after all) and Kagari kept her human form waiting for that moment. It was a nice ending though. exleader75 said: I remember that I was so excited when this adaptation was announced. Now I'm sort of sad to see it end, but I still want a re-adaptation that will probably never happen. Remembering where I was before it started and now... man, quite the journey haha. I too hope the readaptation (that will never happen) happens one day too. About the ending thing (which is the P.S you pointed out) I thought the ending was more of leaving to interpretation to the reader... I think the anime kinda was a bit confusing but at the same time I thought it would be the case I was imagining, except for the kiss part. But it was pretty nice anyways. But it was still a nice touch regardless, rather too sweet, but satisfying. |
Symphyon said: About the ending thing (which is the P.S you pointed out) I thought the ending was more of leaving to interpretation to the reader... I think the anime kinda was a bit confusing but at the same time I thought it would be the case I was imagining, except for the kiss part. But it was pretty nice anyways. But it was still a nice touch regardless, rather too sweet, but satisfying. Ya I thought it was really sweet too. I kind of interpreted it to be what their spirits/their "combined conscious" forms that we saw in Moon, were thinking when they reunited. I didn't really interpret it as what was actually going on in reality, but it could have been. Like you said, it's probably up for interpretation. |
| Good stuff, still pretty damn confused lol. 7/10 |
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1032patrick said: .I was wondering if moon Kagari knew about Kotarou why kill him many times? Because she sees him as a threat at first. That's why Kotarou is trying hard to have a communication with her to prove that he's not a threat. |
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Kitsu-nee said: I can't say I got half as emotional as whhen I was reading the vn, but it was alright. The last scene on its own makes this series worth watching :3 I have to say, I was quite surprised. I mean, I expected R+ ending, but even then the last CG was this: What can I say, kiss was TEN TIMES more satisfying. And Kotarou looks a lot better with longer hair, instead of black ones!  Sorry gals, no Kotarou for you! I'm gonna go with 7/10 after all, I have some fun with it, although poor pace and flawed, cheap animation definitely destroyed some of my enjoyment. Too bad! If someone still hasn't played the vn version - go for it! Honestly, that kiss ending is my biggest complaint. That last CG was genius, adding one final symbol of hope to what was a rather sad and bittersweet finale. I mean, doesn't that represent what the story was all about? A young sprout on the moon represents the hope and potential for life beyond Earth. Now it's just turned completely into a love story about Kotarou and Kagari, with the existential and humanitarian themes taking a back-seat. I suspected that this was how Rewrite would be adapted anyway, but it still upsets me to see it done like this. It's written by Romeo Tanaka, the same guy who wrote Cross Channel - there's a lot behind it. |
| Way worse than 1st season. I did not even know what is going on |
| I guess I understand the main story now, thanks to all the VN readers' posts here. However, it just feels like there was something missing in the adaptation. The big emotional moments in the anime didn't have the effect on me that it probably should have had. And for a large part of my time with the anime, I was mostly just confused. I really liked all the characters, though, and the ending was quite nice. MUCH better than the first season, for sure. I probably should have read the Rewrite VN from the get go. I remember switching from the Umineko anime to the VN right after the first couple of episodes and my experience was so much better that way. Obviously would have been the same with Rewrite. Oh, well. Too late now. |
Rodielx said: TakeMeInYourArmy said: Honestly, that kiss ending is my biggest complaint. That last CG was genius, adding one final symbol of hope to what was a rather sad and bittersweet finale. I mean, doesn't that represent what the story was all about? A young sprout on the moon represents the hope and potential for life beyond Earth. Now it's just turned completely into a love story about Kotarou and Kagari, with the existential and humanitarian themes taking a back-seat. I suspected that this was how Rewrite would be adapted anyway, but it still upsets me to see it done like this. It's written by Romeo Tanaka, the same guy who wrote Cross Channel - there's a lot behind it. That young sprout on the moon is just Kagari and nothing else, why would it represent potential life beyond Earth? They can't go to the moon, there is no life energy there for them, they have to go beyond the solar system. There certainly is much more meaning in all of Rewrite than what the anime shows at all, but all of it is told mainly in all of the branch routes like Lucia's route or Akane's route. If 8bit did a shitty introduction of the world in Season 1 and then just did Moon and Terra in Season 2, Moon and Terra being almost completely just about Kotarou's and Kagari's special relationship and then saving Earth using the futile struggles of a young man in love, then obviously all of Rewrite's adaptation would have a romantic theme. If there are no branch routes, then people can't realize the hidden meaning they found in Moon and Terra as they aren't as clear there. 1032patrick said: Is it only the girls who can summon Kotarou from the tree after few years? Probably someone else could but I think the reason the summoning process goes so well is because of the connection the girls already had to Kotarou, so even if someone else could, no one would do it as easily and naturally as them. Yes, in literal terms the sprout is Kagari, but things can have multiple meanings. You mean to tell me the image of a sprout on the moon in a story all about securing the future of humanity by expanding beyond their mother planet doesn't have another meaning? The whole point of Kotarou becoming a familiar is to help humanity traverse beyond the stars. With just the girls, they can go to the moon, but if all of humanity forms a contract with him, they could potentially travel out to a new planet, and even more after that. They use Kotarou's power to travel to the moon where they find a young sprout (obviously Kagari), but if they wanted it to only mean Kagari, they would just show Kagari. However, they instead chose to use a sprout on the moon. To deny any sort of meaning behind that is absurd. |
Rodielx said: FinalFlash18 said: 1. He kissed Kagari of the moon and not the earth Kagari at the end, right? (Obvious but still asking to be sure) 2. After Koutarou turns familiar with his memories gone, during the journey to the moon, why did he turned back to his teen form and remembers Kagari? And with emotions no less. Does it mean he or everyone gained memories of their past lives or was that just symbolism for the happy ending? The adaptation was rushed. It had the potential to be even loads better than this. I still enjoyed it tho. Not really fond of sad and bittersweet endings :c Wanted a full fledged happy ending, but oh well. Yes at the end he kisses Moon Kagari. His memories are, most probably, not gone. In the VN that scene of him going back to his teens with the girls and walking to the moon is there but all of that is supposed to be symbolic, like "the Occult club days are back" or something. And that kiss scene didn't happen in the VN but I think it would happen later when Kagari goes back to her human form and all, definitely. And how isn't it a happy ending? Everyone is alive and happy and Kotarou remembers everything and, well people died but nothing's perfect. I don't think he remembers everything tho. Nor he showed any implication when reincarnated as a familiar. It was bittersweet ending to me. Wanted a full fledged happy ending. |
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| That was a nice happy ending! total opposite of the last episode of Season 1...lolz 4/5. 7/10. |
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| Well, this is certainly better than the first season. And I guess, this is just good enough for me. Anyway, I'll rate this a 7 out of 10 score overall. |
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Rodielx said: FinalFlash18 said: I don't think he remembers everything tho. Nor he showed any implication when reincarnated as a familiar. It was bittersweet ending to me. Wanted a full fledged happy ending. Well of course I can't assure you that he remembers everything because he doesn't say so explicitly in the anime, but take this into consideration, in the Rewrite+ version of the VN, he did remember literally everything from the branch routes to Moon and Terra, but he didn't say so out loud he just describes the life he had with each of the heroines in each of their routes with an inner monologue. Now here in the anime if we could read his mind what we probably would have heard is "I remember everything, but I'll keep it a secret", that is if this is a Rewrite+ adaptation, which judging by Sakuya's absence and Kotarou remembering his promise, it most likely is. There is enough proof to say this is the happy ending that happened in Rewrite+, but if you want to believe the less likely possibility of him not remembering anything then you're free to do so =D. Not at all haha. I gravitate more towards the happy endings. And even if there's slightest of hint that implies those, I feel content. Like how I loved when Shirou reunites with Saber at the end of his journey in FSN VN <3 So yeah, thanks. Also one more thing. What is this Harvest Festa I hear about? Does it take after Rewrite's ending? And how the heroine routes differ from their individual routes from main VN? |
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Symphyon said: FinalFlash18 said: Not at all haha. I gravitate more towards the happy endings. And even if there's slightest of hint that implies those, I feel content. Like how I loved when Shirou reunites with Saber at the end of his journey in FSN VN <3 So yeah, thanks. Also one more thing. What is this Harvest Festa I hear about? Does it take after Rewrite's ending? And how the heroine routes differ from their individual routes from main VN? Harvest Festa is more like a more romance/interactive version of the original. Some of the routes are continuations of the original (Kotori as an example because the ending of the original was just... open, there's no answers as to what happened with everything in that ending) while some are more romance focused (Lucia's Route as another example). I think there are like more so mini-games to say the least from what I got in some vids. I see. So just an alternate light hearted game for fun. Thanks. |
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gophercg said: Rodielx said: Gold orbs? They're supposed to just turn to dust. And of course he had to "kill" her parents, they were basically zombies sucking out Kotori's life energy while she was obsessed believing they would come back to life. You mean the fight against the Earth dragon? Kotarou killed the Earth dragon and made it to the top to stop the song, that song is supposed to affect Kagari so that she makes the decision faster against her will, and of course to do something like that they have to use their lives while singing that song. They were giving up their lives so that salvation happened as fast as it could. I wish to express my deepest condolences to all those anime-onlies that didn't feel anything in this scene, I will curse 8Shit for you all forever. Kagari must die because she has already begun the re-evolution process, salvation, and the world would end. By killing her the world can live on and survive as with Kotarou's actions everyone will use their lives to survive and Kotarou himself will become a monster and get them all outta there. In the Kotori route timeline nothing has been done so that the world would survive, even if they avoid salvation, a few decades or centuries later another Kagari would be born and try to do salvation again, or the world would use its resources completely and humanity would die. Thanks, I forgot the life drain. It didn't seem urgent (he never hinted corpses drain life energy fast, besides his moral argument) since he didn't kill those 3 mammoths. Ic, so the choir also sings out via life force. They could've at least shown singers dropping down while singing, or show Kotarou beating them, which wasn't clear which happened, especially with his question to Sakura (that what he did was all pointless). Ah so Kagari's "too late" means the restart is happening already, makes sense then. As a druid, Kotori can make familiars/mamono/monster contract with the Powerspot (image), Idk if you remember but in S1 Kotori own like a "mini monster army" (tree shaped monsters some ones were giant monsters), and obviously they could not be sucking her life or Kotori would die (it was told in the VN). Episode 10 S2 Kotori say she can only control 1 of those 3 "mammoths", it's Chibimoth (the pink one), her dog pero. |
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Rodielx said: Arikado- said: As a druid, Kotori can make familiars/mamono/monster contract with the Powerspot (image), Idk if you remember but in S1 Kotori own like a "mini monster army" (tree shaped monsters some ones were giant monsters), and obviously they could not be sucking her life or Kotori would die (it was told in the VN). Episode 10 S2 Kotori say she can only control 1 of those 3 "mammoths", it's Chibimoth (the pink one), her dog pero. In Terra she still doesn't know how to use the power spot to supply her familiars with energy, in the VN when Kotarou asks her how much time can she move both her parents she says that after a while she faints, then Kotarou tells her that they're moving with Kotori's own life and Kotori seems surprised. She doesn't have that many familiars yet and focuses mainly in maintaining the barrier so she doesn't use much energy and would probably learn to use the power spot later when she needs it, but of course this is Terra so she just quits after Kotarou's savage act. @gophercg asked why Kotarou didn't kill all those 3 mammoths, if you are saying that Kotori in terra didn't use the powerspot (I don't remember) then I have no explanation, what you say? A plot hole? Kotarou need them or they use an insignificant amount of life?  |
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