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Sep 25, 2016 8:06 AM
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I am a anime-only for this, I really enjoyed this episode. Mostly because even though everyone died, it shows at the end in other timelines that they have progressed further. If they had not done that even after smoothing out the fact that everyone is dying by everyone accepting their fate and having little conversations then i probably would have not liked this episode. Also who is pero?
Sep 25, 2016 8:33 AM

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I request another dream
I need a forest fire

Regardless...pretty shit series on its own and this is by no means harsh
Feels like I'm just throwing buzzwords...but this was, despite the potentially great sequences and nuances that called on nostalgia somewhat, scarcely enjoyable because of the rather cluttered plot and bad comedy, was highly bloated(overambitious), was badly VA-ed, and was low quality. Ending obviously recalls AB, and on the same time felt even more pointless as all of the episodes till now translated into zero influence on it, and was excrutiatingly bad. 3/10

I sense that Terra would be much better, but I don't go back for second helpings to a shop that has sold defects beforehand
Sep 25, 2016 8:51 AM

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Blank123HD said:
Also who is pero?
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It makes me sad to know that still hardly anyone knows what a visual novel is, even in the anime community.
Sep 25, 2016 9:05 AM

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pennsatucky said:
season 2 doesn't have to be adapted by 8-bit, does it?....


You seriously think or expect that?

Sep 25, 2016 9:17 AM

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Oiacz said:
pennsatucky said:
season 2 doesn't have to be adapted by 8-bit, does it?....


You seriously think or expect that?



no I know there are no such miracles but releasing one more season with the same terrible art would be just plain rude
Sep 25, 2016 10:33 AM
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Honestly I think that the anime is getting a bit of a too harsh criticism. Given it WAS a clusterfuck only because the VN for the 1st season would've been hard to adapt and they made some wrong calls. I personally give it a 7-8/10 for enjoyment. I actually enjoyed the series and some people are going wayyyyy too hard on it. Hopefully Moon/Terra Arcs will be way better than the 1st season. Looking forward to Season 2. Should be much better than Season 1.
Sep 25, 2016 10:52 AM

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No-Look_Kuroko said:
That. Was. Shit.

Easily the worst Key anime. Had to be an eco-story too. I love environmentally themed stories. I'm very active in sustainability and environmental justice movements, but... god that was awful.


Season two? Really? Now we gotta go through all that again to watch him save the world? Anime is getting too liberal with the "return by death/time travel/eco-magic" trope.


Only it's not really "return by death/time travel/eco-magic".
Sep 25, 2016 10:55 AM

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So that's it. The world ended. Ta-da! But seriously, talk about a dissatisfying ending to a rushed show. I'm sure this called for Kagari to rewrite the world again, though honestly I doubt I'd bother if this anime got a second season. 5.5/10
Sep 25, 2016 11:08 AM

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GokuNazz said:
Tbh, I don't understand the anime at all.

Anyone willing to do a TL;Dr summary and what to expect in 2nd season, please? I don't mind with spoilers. Be sure to put spoiler tag though


What Komomo said is spot on. However, since you asked what to expect in the next season, I have to add one more thing:

Sep 25, 2016 11:26 AM

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Psicody said:
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Who cares Kotori one has already known too much about anime stop.
Tell us more example of Lucia and his past?
And Esaka is good because it receuilli Kotarou Kotarou and was left with Guardian also Touka and the other I do not know his first name because Kotarou fled these parents "Marvel Gaia" is his?
esque it is true that in the past we receuilli Esaka Touka and all the girls? Lucia Shizuru Akane Chihaya ect?


I don't mean any offense, but your English is REALLY bad, and I'm not quite sure what you're asking. I'm going to try to answer, but if I've misunderstood what you're asking, please let me know.

For Lucia


For the second part of your question
Sep 25, 2016 12:04 PM
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2nd season ? why they make this so rushed ? they can make it with better pace if they've plan two cour #confused
Likely didn't have the budget to make it a 2 cour while having enough for the true routes and the 2nd season is adaptations of the "true routes" - which is the real ending of the story.

Anyway Ima give this adaptation a 5/10, because despite one of the worst things I have seen in the past years with lots of cringe and badly placed moments, jokes and whatnot, it was still kinda enjoyable. Here is to hoping they dont imess up the true routes...


i don't have expectation to watch this, so it's still watchable for me ... (although i only give 6/10)
Well, i hope that route you said could be good adaptation (i don't read VN)
Sep 25, 2016 12:19 PM

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Well, that was pretty stupid. And why does the begining of this episode spoil the ending? At first I was like, what the heck, did I miss some episode or what :v If I didn't know visual novel I wouldn't have the slightlest idea what is going on.

Also, things like Kotori and "Pero", yeah, 'cause that was necessary for her character arc, except they didn't even show one scene for that to make any sense xD

Even not counting that, Kagari-chan's 'route' was just dumb, even if it was made for the game. Grabbing Kagari's boob stops her from going completely crazy... Who the fuck thought it would be a good idea. Seriously, this pathetic, shameful writing doesn't deserve being called Rewrite, it wouldn't even, if this series had KyoAni level of animation.
Sep 25, 2016 12:52 PM

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I will watch the second season anyways, because it's unlikely to adapt badly.


Hahahaha. Based on what do make this assumption?!


Well... The 2nd season will be 11 episodes long, probably 8 episodes for Terra, more than enough.
Sep 25, 2016 1:11 PM

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Expected a somewhat happy end.

It was neither happy nor the end.

I assume what comes next is that Extreme Boredom that I gave up on when playing the VN. I swear, how do they make literally nothing but a text on the screen - which only occasionally is dialogue - into an anime? I might check an episode or two of the second season out of sheer curiosity, but I'm not expecting much.

I think at this point visual novel adaptations have been proven enough times to be guaranteed failures before they're even made. Unless they're intended from the start to be only partial adaptation and focus on a single route. Then they become the best anime of all time. And get an After Story.
Sep 25, 2016 1:12 PM

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A pretty bitter ending to take, when the old hag's plan sadly succeeded, although having her shot dead before the end wasn't surprising.

Despite not playing the VN, it still felt rushed and at times, 8bit's budget for the art and animation must've been skint. It looks pretty poor compared to last year's Charlotte by P.A. Works, in both 2D and 3D.

Despite that, the main characters themselves were likeable, funny and seeing them all hurt, exhausted and tired in the last episode made me feel sad.

I didn't expect a second season to be made, but I'm not sure if it's a continuation (somehow) or a different timeline, but I will be watching it to be if 8bit can do a better job.

Overall, I feel this show should deserve a 6 or 7 if I'm feeling generous.
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No-Look_Kuroko said:
That. Was. Shit.

Easily the worst Key anime. Had to be an eco-story too. I love environmentally themed stories. I'm very active in sustainability and environmental justice movements, but... god that was awful.


Season two? Really? Now we gotta go through all that again to watch him save the world? Anime is getting too liberal with the "return by death/time travel/eco-magic" trope.

To be fair, the original source material was written in 2011.
And in the VN, (semi-spoiler)
この世界には。。。秘密がある
Sep 25, 2016 1:55 PM

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The 2nd half left me questioning wtf happend. The first half was rlly nice and had took the time to build up the story/plot. After that they rushed the story to make it fit into 13 episodes.

This is just a waste of a potential great anime. For example the ending of ep 12 the grandma of the Akane(i think,aka witch, dont remember cause she feels left out these last episodes) was alive. Starting episode 13, how did she die??

Except kotori and kagari all heroines/main character(girls) are almost completely left out in this episode. Dissapointing end 4/10 these last few episodes. Overall 6/10 because of the good first half

EDIT: I understand fron the ending it will be possible that there maybe a season 2 with a different timeline. I rlly hope if that's the case they will do a better job of making the story phasing go smooth and dont leave out to many things like fight leader guardian vs Shizuru
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I was confused throughout this entire episode. Oh well, at least this is over. Definitely not my favorite show this season, but it wasn't the worst. Maybe I'll play the VN at some point.
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Sep 25, 2016 3:37 PM

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Fuck I'll just go play the VN now.
Sep 25, 2016 4:05 PM
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I had a feeling it was gonna come to this type of ending, they were aiming for Moon and Terra from the beggining, dropping such spoilers on episode 1, so they had to mergue everything together, but with a new Kagiri... Chihaya, Akane and Shizuru endings in one big juicy budgeted episode...
And this my dear users, was the budget every episode deserved.

Never seen an episode with such a fast pace, the things they just skipped here, are at another level entirely, they dont even bother if they go back to the original source material in the process, and insert some of those scenes into the original content.
We were even given major spoilers that people wont get, until we reach Terra.

I would be going crazy, bashing this anime, if I didnt had read the VN, because it was just such a clusterfuck of a mess.
To such a degree, that I even feel it is pointless to just say a thing...

I still give it a 7, mainly because of my enjoyment and the whole fanservice it provided from reading the routes.
Seeing Lucia animated, even if poorly, while butchering so much from her route (and not even using her full potential, only achieved with her romance story), and this new Kagari, were the highest points here.

Anyone that managed toget this far, enjoy or feel interested by this characters, do yourself a favor and read this great VN, .
From the beggining I said White Fox, back in 2014, I said White Fox has to do this... the warnings where there, it was the obvious end result, but we still had hopes, this adaptation is the reflection of the poor state of the whole anime industry in general.
Sep 25, 2016 4:24 PM

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Final quite rushed, actually felt that much information was thrown at the beginning of the episode and the plot could be better worked, the characters were the highlight of adaptation in my opinion, I expected a bit more of the plot, but I hope the second season present an great development and enjoy the whole potential of the plot ..
Sep 25, 2016 6:57 PM
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2nd worst ending to an anime iv'e ever seen. school days is the 1st.
Sep 25, 2016 7:49 PM

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2nd worst ending to an anime iv'e ever seen. school days is the 1st.
This is not a true ending, just because it's being made as split-cour.
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This anime started a regular thing, but I think after a few chapters became a little better, not anything special but has a pretty original story that goes beyond what appears to be. I definitely see his 2nd season, although I think it would have been better if it had been animated by KyoAni.
Sep 25, 2016 8:45 PM

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seeker_moc said:
GokuNazz said:
Tbh, I don't understand the anime at all.

Anyone willing to do a TL;Dr summary and what to expect in 2nd season, please? I don't mind with spoilers. Be sure to put spoiler tag though


What Komomo said is spot on. However, since you asked what to expect in the next season, I have to add one more thing:



Whaaat!?!?!



Oh btw, Terra route is the Moon route?
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Sep 25, 2016 9:39 PM

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Omg all if these events led to the bad end??. So next season is the true ending then? omg
Sep 25, 2016 9:48 PM

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GokuNazz said:
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Whaaat!?!?!



Oh btw, Terra route is the Moon route?


Not really. Moon and Terra are more action-oriented than anything else. It's mostly about Kotaru fighting to protect Kagari and the world. Kagari is the "heroine" of the routes, but the romance aspect is low-key compared to the other routes, and she doesn't talk nearly as much as she did in the new anime route.


No, Moon and Terra are separate routes. Moon is what you see at the end of the anime.


Terra is the "true" route
Sep 25, 2016 9:54 PM
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I think this is the first time in quite a while where I see the show end with a bad ending. In short, it was a depressing mind boggling ending to the show. Sure it had it short bits of comedy, but overall the episode was full on with the sad scenes.
Shizuru and Lucia saying their goodbyes, Kotori and Chibimoth, and then we see a bit of Shimako. Feel sorry for her because she probably saw the whole thing, Akane possibly killing those two on the roof as she went crazy.

Kagari and Kotarou, sad farewell indeed. The OST's this episode were spot on, especially during the fight scenes.
Overall I give S1 a 7/10. Anxious for more Kagari

Sep 25, 2016 9:58 PM

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Wow what a mess in the last episode, and when they explained how kotori saved Kotarou years ago, they don't even mentioned that at that moment Kotarou become


Also PLEASEEEE 8BIT or the direcor for the NEXT SEASON, STOP and I mean STOP with the comedy when you are in the SERIOUS SCENE FFS. Wtf? touching her boobs on the climax scene accidentally? Wow what a fcking great idea. In the visual novel the only part where the is a comedy is the common route, ALL the heroine route is VERY serious with no shitty comedy. If they decided to adapting Moon and Terra route with their idea of comedy right now, I can only expect another shitty adaptation disaster
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Wow what a mess in the last episode, and when they explained how kotori saved Kotarou years ago, they don't even mentioned that at that moment Kotarou become


Also PLEASEEEE 8BIT or the direcor for the NEXT SEASON, STOP and I mean STOP with the comedy when you are in the SERIOUS SCENE FFS. Wtf? touching her boobs on the climax scene accidentally? Wow what a fcking great idea. In the visual novel the only part where the is a comedy is the common route, ALL the heroine route is VERY serious with no shitty comedy. If they decided to adapting Moon and Terra route with their idea of comedy right now, I can only expect another shitty adaptation disaster

Lol its not the first time that this happen. I still remember the panty shot in amane's route in grisaia no kajitsu during a serious scene. Typical tensho.... fuck tensho
Sep 25, 2016 11:38 PM

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seeker_moc said:
GokuNazz said:


Whaaat!?!?!



Oh btw, Terra route is the Moon route?


Not really. Moon and Terra are more action-oriented than anything else. It's mostly about Kotaru fighting to protect Kagari and the world. Kagari is the "heroine" of the routes, but the romance aspect is low-key compared to the other routes, and she doesn't talk nearly as much as she did in the new anime route.


No, Moon and Terra are separate routes. Moon is what you see at the end of the anime.


Terra is the "true" route


Ohhh. Then the terra route is the one we'll see in season 2

But im still confused about the timeline. Terra takes place before Moon? But how come the last episode is a prologue to Terra route :/
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Thai777 said:
amc9988 said:
Wow what a mess in the last episode, and when they explained how kotori saved Kotarou years ago, they don't even mentioned that at that moment Kotarou become


Also PLEASEEEE 8BIT or the direcor for the NEXT SEASON, STOP and I mean STOP with the comedy when you are in the SERIOUS SCENE FFS. Wtf? touching her boobs on the climax scene accidentally? Wow what a fcking great idea. In the visual novel the only part where the is a comedy is the common route, ALL the heroine route is VERY serious with no shitty comedy. If they decided to adapting Moon and Terra route with their idea of comedy right now, I can only expect another shitty adaptation disaster

Lol its not the first time that this happen. I still remember the panty shot in amane's route in grisaia no kajitsu during a serious scene. Typical tensho.... fuck tensho


Ahh, yes. Who can forget that masterpiece of a scene. What do you do when you're getting chased by cannibals, and your only ally is sacrificing herself to save you? Why, show a shot of her panties, of course! #Tensho logic
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GokuNazz said:

Ohhh. Then the terra route is the one we'll see in season 2

But im still confused about the timeline. Terra takes place before Moon? But how come the last episode is a prologue to Terra route :/




Chronologically,

tl;dr


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I've never been more confused in my life for an anime.

It's funny I saw this at anime expo, and how much it's changed since that first episode
Sep 26, 2016 1:45 AM

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GokuNazz said:
seeker_moc said:


Not really. Moon and Terra are more action-oriented than anything else. It's mostly about Kotaru fighting to protect Kagari and the world. Kagari is the "heroine" of the routes, but the romance aspect is low-key compared to the other routes, and she doesn't talk nearly as much as she did in the new anime route.


No, Moon and Terra are separate routes. Moon is what you see at the end of the anime.


Terra is the "true" route


Ohhh. Then the terra route is the one we'll see in season 2

But im still confused about the timeline. Terra takes place before Moon? But how come the last episode is a prologue to Terra route :/


Moon takes place before Terra

Sep 26, 2016 5:12 AM

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IZEROII said:
Pochi_ said:
I will watch the second season anyways, because it's unlikely to adapt badly.


Hahahaha. Based on what do make this assumption?!
The assumption that Moon and Terra are linear stories? The assumption that they don't have to go original with those? The fact that it's pretty do able with 11 ep? Lots of reasons to atleast be opmistic about that part of the adaptation.
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Snappynator said:
IZEROII said:


Hahahaha. Based on what do make this assumption?!
The assumption that Moon and Terra are linear stories? The assumption that they don't have to go original with those? The fact that it's pretty do able with 11 ep? Lots of reasons to atleast be opmistic about that part of the adaptation.


Especially that cancerous art.
Sep 26, 2016 5:36 AM

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This guy makes some pretty good reviews. I definitely recommend it ^_^

Sep 26, 2016 5:44 AM

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Snappynator said:
The assumption that Moon and Terra are linear stories? The assumption that they don't have to go original with those? The fact that it's pretty do able with 11 ep? Lots of reasons to atleast be opmistic about that part of the adaptation.


Especially that cancerous art.
Art is art, it being shitty doesn't affect the story or how it all plays out.
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Snappynator said:
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Especially that cancerous art.
Art is art, it being shitty doesn't affect the story or how it all plays out.


We have VN for the story. Art is a very important thing. Do you really want to see things like this in Moon/Terra?

Sep 26, 2016 7:10 AM

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CrasianLe said:
2nd worst ending to an anime iv'e ever seen. school days is the 1st.


At least School Days is portrayed better than this and it has clearer goal.


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As an anime-only, I'm not sure how I feel about this yet. The characters are interesting somehow, but I still have no clue what the hell is supposed to be going on, storywise.

The saving grace is that after-credits scene that hints that this was a "bad end" playthrough and there'll presumably be a better one coming up next season.

So I'll probably keep watching, and might even check out the VN, but at the moment this seems like a meh/10.


The anime-original story is totally a mess. Even the poor written heroine routes such as Shizuru's(Base on majority) are written better than this. It's okay if you can't understand, I don't think they're making the story very understandable either. It's better for you to read the visual novel instead.


Sep 26, 2016 7:51 AM

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GokuNazz said:
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Ohhh. Then the terra route is the one we'll see in season 2

But im still confused about the timeline. Terra takes place before Moon? But how come the last episode is a prologue to Terra route :/


Season 2 11 episodes ares supposed to cover both Moon and Terra (I'd guess 2-3 episodes for Moon followed by 8-9 episodes for Terra). The end of the last episode is a lead-in to Moon. Moon is the prologue to Terra.

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Go away, Gotrys. You're like the autistic shitposter on 4chan that makes the same thread criticizing the same thing every day, except it's really fucking embarrassing watching you because you aren't anonymous.
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Go away, Gotrys. You're like the autistic shitposter on 4chan that makes the same thread criticizing the same thing every day, except it's really fucking embarrassing watching you because you aren't anonymous.


Well.... I am, actually.
And there IS an ignore option, you know?
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Although this adaption was kind of lousy, that was a pretty good ending episode.
I liked the first two episodes and the ending episode, just not so much everything else in between....

Hopefully the next season will be done better.
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I'll ONLY watch Season 2 if they adapt the oppai route.
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Bad end huh...
The song at the end was awesome.

Question to VN readers -
Sep 26, 2016 1:49 PM

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Bad end huh...
The song at the end was awesome.

Question to VN readers -



Some major spoilers

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