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| Good and realistic ending sadly Mari/Yori didn't ended as a couple. At first I thought that Yori was some kind of obsessive stalker hehehe. I saw that ending coming since chapter 30-40. Was clear to me that Mari had some mental disorder and Komori was inside her head (thankfully was not some paranormal bs). 7/10 same level of Aku no Hana. Next: Happiness. |
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| So, all of the chemistry that Yori and Mari/Isao had is gone now? It seems like it was implied that they'd eventually part ways. Sad, but it kinda makes sense considering the Isao construct that Yori fell in love with doesn't exist, and that the Mari she admired was also a facade in a way. There were so many layers to this. Very compelling. Chapter: 5/5 Overall: 8/10 |
| I have just finished this manga and I loved it, I can understand that having to wait to read each chapter makes it lose some points because it's a very graphic manga with many moments in which "nothing happens". As many say, it was obvious that something was wrong with Mari's head since mid manga, and in my opinion there were excessive clues about what it's happening that make it lose its intrigue, but I found fine that it's all explained and that the story is closed at the end. On the other hand, the one month timelapse of the last chapters is weird and meaningless, and the way Yori met her friends and how her relationship with Isao/Mari's cooled off seemed rushed. From what I understood, Mari appears to have been hiding her lesbianism because her idol personality can't accept it, so Isao/Mari is an open door to her real feelings. Maybe it's like Arbean26 said, although Yori told her sister that she loved Isao/Mari, she liked Mari due to their encounter in the nursing when she had problems, however, she loved Isao/Mari because the good time they spent together (also she's afraid that if Isao/Mari dissapears, Mari's body will become an empty shell again). When the three personalities inside Mari's body coincide, Mari told Isao/Mari that she knows that Yori doesn't really love her and in the end Yori will probably leave her after they graduated, so she decides to start a relationship as friends. Finally, Mari personality stays as the dominant but complemented by Isao and Fumiko, so she smiles when she doesn't see anybody when she looks back at the end because she's now feeling complete. I did not expect this kind of story when I started reading it, wishing to read other works by this author. |
| Waw... I just started to read this because it has gender bender in it. But, waw ! The story is way more complex than i thought. I boost to read it in just 2 days, and now my head is still a little bit hurt. The story is really drown my mind, it just like every time i switch chapter, there's always "why it can be ?" "How would just happen ?" bla bla bla. I actually still confused with "what actually happen with mari". But, IMO, i think it just like Multiple Personality, right ? The Isao's personality might be developed after she saw the real Isao, the guy that she consider "The lucky person". It might be started from past conflict trauma between her and her mother, especially after change her name from fumiko to mari. Yeah, that just my opinion though. Score ? I actually want to give it 8. But, the final chapter is actually show too fast. So sorry, i will drop it a little bit to 7/10 Ahh, now please let me go for a head compress and a nice pillow... |
"Happy Ramadhan for those who celebrate it. I hope this year's Ramadhan bring goodness for you life" -(TsuzukuHunter 2018) |
TsuzukuHunter said: I actually still confused with "what actually happen with mari". But, IMO, i think it just like Multiple Personality, right ? The Isao's personality might be developed after she saw the real Isao, the guy that she consider "The lucky person". It might be started from past conflict trauma between her and her mother, especially after change her name from fumiko to mari. Yeah, that just my opinion though. Yeah, all the clues point to her having multiple personality. Like you, I started to read it because the gender bender and didn't expected how it evolved. It's one of these mangas where you want to know what happens next and it's also very quick to read so it's easy to miss some details, I found later this site: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Manga/InsideMari Where people explain some details that you may have overlooked. |
Eluron said: Yeah, all the clues point to her having multiple personality. Like you, I started to read it because the gender bender and didn't expected how it evolved. It's one of these mangas where you want to know what happens next and it's also very quick to read so it's easy to miss some details, I found later this site: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Manga/InsideMari Where people explain some details that you may have overlooked. Man, what a long list they have !! Most of it are the things that I never thought about it before (because my head too busy with answering the question "What really happen with mari"). Thanks for the link. |
"Happy Ramadhan for those who celebrate it. I hope this year's Ramadhan bring goodness for you life" -(TsuzukuHunter 2018) |
| Just finished reading after 3 days-in-row... God i had to say myself, no, don't read it too fast, let's get this for some time! Unfortunately there's no hope for human being like me. I came to this manga during of waiting for new part of "Chi no Wadachi" which is from the pen of the very same Oshimi, Shuuzou. When i started to read it i was kinda disappointed a bit, because i am not so much in to gender transformation. More likely i am in to some romance scenes where is a girl with a boy. Unfortunately for me, the first scene i saw was that kinda lesbian in nurse room. And there's a still question by me, was Mari lesbian/bi or there was just in role another kind of personality as her imagined Isao Komori? Or it was her true personality? The end was kinda speeded and compared with many other chapters it was a bit disappointing. But honestly i am not experienced with manga and mainly what i was focusd most likely was ecchi genre, but that as masterpiece and for me one of the most amazing experiences ever. Love it so much |
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| Liked the overall eerie, what-the-fuck-is-going-on feel of the manga but I somehow knew the twist past halfway through the chapters and was just eagerly reading the rest to confirm what I had on my mind. The story was really well-written but it could have cut a lot of stuff and it would just still make sense. I don't like how there's little to no content on some of the chapters wherein it literally cover one conversation between Mari and someone else and that's it. I think this would really go well if adapted as a live-action movie though. Still it was definitely a good read and I look forward to more psychological thrillers from the same mangaka. |
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| In the end neither Yori nor Komori mattered, Fin. It’s always mindfuck in the end.... ffs. A realistic fantasy ending. |
| For a manga that presents itself as a gender-bender genre this becamed a thrilling mystery as such that i couldn't stop reading fast. But my problem, such as much people that commented here, is not soo much as the ending itself, but also the non body swap revelation. Not that i'm against Mari recovering her true self, but in the fact that who in the end who is really Mari? Yes i know Mari had the three personalities (herself Mari, Mari/Komori and Fumiko her younger self). From the point were the supernatural body swap is thrown out we knew that in the end Mari had to come back. In the process we lost the connection between Yori and Mari/Komori that was all we knew and cared. We readers who first where subconsciously rooting for Komori to bring back Mari to her own body, then for Mari/Komori to reconcile with Yori and finally for Mari to come back by uncovering her past self, Fumiko. We are left with a feeling of emptiness because we end up knowing little about the real Mari and not giving any credit to Yori, if not even disliking her. Not to mention Komori that actually didn't knew Mari until she came to him claiming that she was him. It was a good story, but as many good stories do, they end. And this one ended as we knew it would but with a bittersweet feeling. Thanks for reading this and sorry for my Engrish :D |
| I came here for the genderbend tag, what I got was a beautiful story about mental health problems. |
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| Seems like a lot of people here don't know what Dissociative Identity Disorder is, how it's caused, and how to recognize it. This was a great manga, to me. Even after the ending, I still felt a emptiness and sadness inside. I hope she found happiness. For anyone confused, Komori was never the one stalking Mari. In fact, Komori had no idea who she even was. Mari was the one who was actually stalking him, and following him to his apartment and spying on him. She even broke into his apartment. She desired his way of life, and because of her illness, manifested her own persona of him. Mari didn't love Yori, the Komori persona in Mari loved her, and that's the persona that Yori loved. That's why they didn't end up as "lovers". This was 9/10 for me. I've loved all of Oshimi Shuzo manga that I've read so far. |
| So in the end it's not a body swap phenomenon, the problem is with Mari's personality....it's a shame that the manga doesn't dig deeper into this or give a straight final answer to the cause... The "Fumiko" thing is not as impactful as I thought it would.... I also hated how Yori played more role in the end of the story than Komori... Well, in the end they all move on with their own life, good enough for me.... Mod Edit: Merged duplicated posts; please use the edit button. |
KuniiDec 27, 2021 7:11 PM
| Jesus.... this gaves me so much nightmare fuel. It made you question your idea of self, your self image, your consciousness, your reality and your perception of the world around you and how the world sees you. This is the kind of work that evokes disturbing question to yourself.... one that gives you existential crisis. |
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| What. a. TRIP. I started reading this on a whim because of the unique premise (body swap gone existential) and finished it in one sitting. I had kind of a difficult time understanding the ending and stumbled upon this blog post that does a good job explaining the gist of it. The juxtaposition of the pathetically useless Isao squandering what life has given him with the beautifully tortured Mari fighting to work through her mental illness and childhood abuse, even though her entire world and identity are crumbling around her, is like a punch to the liver for underachievers. Even after reading different analyses, it still leaves you with more questions than answers. It's hard not to interpret this story as a kind of "lesbian accepts herself" tale. The female "love interest" Kakiguchi Yori's name even sounds like "yuri," which is something I almost immediately noticed. There's also the scene early on where Mari squeezes Momoka's ass when they embrace, a type of boundary crossing that a young, budding lesbian might unknowingly engage in. You even have the preoccupation with typically hetero male things (video games, porno mags, hamburger steaks), since lesbians are sometimes stereotyped as men in women's bodies. There's also two scenes in the manga that really drive this one home for me: Hiroki forcing Mari to kiss him (you'll notice Mari doesn't want to invite him in; it is only at the behest of her mother that she gives in) and Mari giving Isao the handjob. I think both are there to support her nonexistent attraction to men. I got a bunch of other thoughts, but I'm just rambling now... greetings in advance to any future posters. |
| I assume that Mari has some kind of personality disorder, at least I interpret it that way that she has 2 personalities Mari and Komori, which makes the most sense in my opinion. Unfortunately the ending was quite rushed, I don't even think it's bad that too many questions were left open, that leaves room for speculation, but it could have been rounded off more nicely. Nevertheless, I enjoyed it very much. |
| This was a pretty interesting manga, and probably the first psychological type like this that I've ever read, as I generally avoid these types of things, but something made me want to read it. Overall, the ending wasn't bad, but it's sad that Mari and Yori didn't end up together, and only stayed friends. It seems that all high school romances in Japan come to an end once people graduate, which is kinda cruel. |
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| If we had hints that Mari could be suffering from a personality disorder from the beginning, this ending would certainly be more satisfying, but you can tell that this was an idea that Oshimi had after he had already started the manga. |
| all the past commenters who whined in this thread about how the story is about Mari and not Komori are telling on themselves so hard lmao. so SO dreadfully sorry that this wasn’t your wish fulfillment fantasy where a hopeless loser transforms into a cute girl with a perfect life. instead it’s about how the cute girl (Mari) is actually fucking broken and needs to heal from the trauma of having a fake-ass life with shitty friends and an abusive mom (who herself was suffering from her dipshit doormat of a husband), instead of stalking the man whose supposedly perfect life she pines after so badly, and then having a complete mental break when she finds out his life isn’t so perfect after all, because it doesn’t fit HER wish fulfillment fantasy. it’s about how the hopeless loser (Komori) isn’t really all that hopeless or a loser after all, he’s just a square peg in a round hole, and he needs to quit lying to himself about his current situation, go home, reconnect with his family who actually cares about him, and live a simpler and more humble lifestyle instead of chasing after one that isn’t working out for him. and it’s about how an obsessive stalker (Yori) doesn’t get to win the heart of the girl she’s stalking in the end, and instead of pedestaling the object of her affections, needs to realign her expectations to something more realistic, more human, more healthy, FAR more fulfilling, and—most importantly—actually mutually reciprocated. could the ending have been executed better? sure. maybe if the last chapter didn’t feel so rushed. but the content of the ending itself is flawless. not a single character gets the ending they WANT. but, unquestionably, all three of them get the ending they NEED. and all of them will be so much better for it. |
SgtSweetieBelleDec 25, 2023 4:36 AM
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| everybody inside mari but nobody outside yori. why even live anymore? |
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