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| I never really understood why VN readers would sit through 26 episodes of this if they hated this adaptation from the beginning. I guess they never heard of the saying, "If you don't like it, don't watch it." |
| That topic has been brought up and answered many times over and always it ended up degenerating. If you want your answer look up some of the previous episode threads. |
Darklight0303 said: That topic has been brought up and answered many times over and always it ended up degenerating. If you want your answer look up some of the previous episode threads. I've went to every episode discussion for the past months and seen no such thing. All I saw was little babies crying that there scenes weren't animated. |
Darklight0303 said: that's only cause Deen messed up his character from the start making Battler a constantly raging incompetent fool. indeed so |
Rail_Tracer said: Darklight0303 said: That topic has been brought up and answered many times over and always it ended up degenerating. If you want your answer look up some of the previous episode threads. I've went to every episode discussion for the past months and seen no such thing. All I saw was little babies crying that there scenes weren't animated. You're not even worth responding to anymore. |
Darklight0303 said: that's only cause Deen messed up his character from the start making Battler a constantly raging incompetent fool. Which does not effect the series in any way |
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Darklight0303 said: You're not even worth responding to anymore. I question if responding was ever worth the while >.> Animefan1929 said: Darklight0303 said: that's only cause Deen messed up his character from the start making Battler a constantly raging incompetent fool. Which does not effect the series in any way Other then changing how the anime only viewer like yourself, view the main character.. and we all know how main characters mean nothing in the story line. |
| I'm really and i mean REALLY dissapointed about the ending. Even though I don't really play visual novels or other stuff like that like other people do, I wish they could just re-make the episode and put a little hug in there. I mean come on. Seeing Ange dead and Beato getting hurt with little pointy stuff made me cry. Alot. DEAN FAILS. I watched that fan made video thingy and it too, made me cry. I just want a second season or something. I'm still confused with this anime, and yet I will never even get it. So confusing. But this was a great anime anyways. Now off to watching the specials. :D |
sirwence said: Darklight0303 said: You're not even worth responding to anymore. I question if responding was ever worth the while >.> Animefan1929 said: Darklight0303 said: that's only cause Deen messed up his character from the start making Battler a constantly raging incompetent fool. Which does not effect the series in any way Other then changing how the anime only viewer like yourself, view the main character.. and we all know how main characters mean nothing in the story line. I've read the VN before, so I know how he really is. However, it is not important. |
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Animefan1929 said: Darklight0303 said: that's only cause Deen messed up his character from the start making Battler a constantly raging incompetent fool. Which does not effect the series in any way Which actually WILL if god forbid Chiru is ever animated. or perhaps you didn't watch those vids with the prologue |
Denwa said: Yes, the only thing that matters is the story line, right. I don't think you've read the VN, too. I would tend to agree with you Darklight0303 said: Animefan1929 said: Darklight0303 said: that's only cause Deen messed up his character from the start making Battler a constantly raging incompetent fool. Which does not effect the series in any way Which actually WILL if god forbid Chiru is ever animated. or perhaps you didn't watch those vids with the prologue Ill hold to hope that it ISNT |
toratiger said: I am an anime only viewer. After a whole season I still have no idea what the hell is going on...Plus the ending doesn't expalin anything. Feels like it's made for those who have read the VN. Or perhaps everything that happened so far are simply questions. This, honestly. I've sat through 26 episodes of something I understand only partly, and I don't know why o.o I thought it was only me being stupid (which probably is true anyway), but I see I'm not alone in my 'WHAT.' Darklight0303 said: that's only cause Deen messed up his character from the start making Battler a constantly raging incompetent fool. I've always wondered why VN readers thought he was so damn cool when I didn't see anything that awesome about him. Granted, he had some moments that made me go HELL YEAH, but nothing close to what I'd heard about him. |
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Denwa said: Yes, the only thing that matters is the story line, right. I don't think you've read the VN, too. I've read Episode I before the anime started, and part of Episode III to do a comparison to see if the Vn was actually better then the anime, I liked the anime better though. Anime version battler was fine. |
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Denwa said: The music and art were horrible, though. How did you ever manage to read it? The same way you were able to watch 26 episodes if the adaptation. |
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Animefan1929 said: Denwa said: Yes, the only thing that matters is the story line, right. I don't think you've read the VN, too. I've read Episode I before the anime started, and part of Episode III to do a comparison to see if the Vn was actually better then the anime, I liked the anime better though. Anime version battler was fine. Anime battler was fine TO YOU. overall most anime people either can't stand him or don't give a crap about him. Some tolerate/support him only cause he's the supposed hero who will defeat big bad Beato.(which is a another huge misinterpretation) And VN readers mostly prefer to not aknowledge Anime Battler as THE USHIROMIYA BATTLER |
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Denwa said: But the VN is boring and has too much text. With the anime, I can just read teh subs :D It's good to read the VN when you're bored |
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Darklight0303 said: Animefan1929 said: Denwa said: Yes, the only thing that matters is the story line, right. I don't think you've read the VN, too. I've read Episode I before the anime started, and part of Episode III to do a comparison to see if the Vn was actually better then the anime, I liked the anime better though. Anime version battler was fine. Anime battler was fine TO YOU. overall most anime people either can't stand him or don't give a crap about him. Some tolerate/support him only cause he's the supposed hero who will defeat big bad Beato. And VN readers mostly prefer to not aknowledge Anime Battler as THE USHIROMIYA BATTLER Is that because in YOUR OPINION, the VN is better? Im sure when I've read through the majority of the episode discussions you (and other VN readers) have been hounding the anime-only watchers, just because it missed out things which, to be frank, diddn't all seem necessary anyway? Some of it may have been, but I understood what was going on. Job done as far as DEEN are concerned. You say about opinions. Either accept others or keep it to yourself. You dislike the anime. Fine. I enjoyed it and feel that until I decide to try it, the VN is not necessary UNLESS I want to see the continuation. IDK if the VN dislike the anime. They can think what they want. It's went people start getting pompus about why we don't understand that really grinds my gears. |
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| It is getting annoying to see you guys fight over the same things in every Umineko discussion thread. |
| LOL we're hounding the viewers?! Ahaha.wav Not really. If anything we're hounding Deen and how they did things. No no no so far the anime viewers have shown far more agressive actions towards us. Name calling for one among other things. crybabies VNfags and the list can go on and on. So please get your facts straight before saying how we hound the anime only viewers. That only happens when they attack us first via some of the means I have just mentioned. I'm done now |
PsychFreak said: I didnt write it explicitly, but what I tried to point out was, that theres only one person who could have done all of those 5 closed rooms in EP2. And it can only be Rosa (with aid from Genji and Shannon)One theory that came to many people's mind was Rosa. Didn't we see Rosa in the chapel during the time everyone witnessed Beatrice? This is why Rosa really seems suspicious in this very arc alone and she could be applied as the culprit using the very theory you just used. Cenedess said: The anime gives less explanation/speculations than in VN, but it is still perfectly understandable, though only if you think that is~toratiger said: I am an anime only viewer. After a whole season I still have no idea what the hell is going on...Plus the ending doesn't expalin anything. Feels like it's made for those who have read the VN. Or perhaps everything that happened so far are simply questions. This, honestly. I've sat through 26 episodes of something I understand only partly, and I don't know why o.o I thought it was only me being stupid (which probably is true anyway), but I see I'm not alone in my 'WHAT.' |
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Darklight0303 said: Animefan1929 said: Denwa said: Yes, the only thing that matters is the story line, right. I don't think you've read the VN, too. I've read Episode I before the anime started, and part of Episode III to do a comparison to see if the Vn was actually better then the anime, I liked the anime better though. Anime version battler was fine. Anime battler was fine TO YOU. overall most anime people either can't stand him or don't give a crap about him. Some tolerate/support him only cause he's the supposed hero who will defeat big bad Beato.(which is a another huge misinterpretation) hirahira said: It is getting annoying to see you guys fight over the same things in every Umineko discussion thread. It's also annoying for VN fans to complain in every episode discussion for the past 26 weeks. |
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| LOL I like how you are rebutting someone trying to settle this building conflict peacefully. Very pro very pro |
| ........ i'm so confused |
| Well it's finally over, I have to say I feel a little bit mfff. I have only read a couple scenes to the VN so I can't say I am comparing the two. Though for some reason I feel sort of a lack of tension from a final episode. The voice acting seemed sort of lifeless and I guess flat. The animation as well. I actually felt a lot more last episode than this episode. I think I will go and look to find me some copies of the VN now because the back ground music is nice (has listened to some on youtube and loves it <3) Still pretty good will probably give it a 9 or 8. |
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| I liked this anime a lot the first few episodes, until it started to get more and more random and weird. It ended with me not caring for the characters or the plot or WTF is going on. It was still quite enjoyable and fun to watch though. |
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toratiger said: I think thats some questions being asked over and over again, as I said, you have to think for yourself. I watched the anime only first myself, I didnt see any great problem with those~ We got to see a few different scenarios of people on the island getting murdered. A witch and the main character fighting over whether they are done by magic or not. If magic does not exist, how are those scenes repeated? And how was Battler able to teleport etc. Basically I am saying we got a bunch of questions thrown at us yet the ending of the season was not able to provide the answer. Just in case, let me quote June_1983 from AniSuki....(I just happen to have read it anyway) June 1983 said: ...they are not being revived. Each game takes place in a different world or "game board". The events of each game are final and time proceeds on after that weekend in October even though we don't see it. Meta!Battler is just a ghost of Battler from the first game. And, though it's already been said many times in discussion threads and this thread ... I'll say it again ... magic in the real world is not the same thing as magic in the meta!world/purgatory. A person can believe in the afterlife while not believing in vampires, for example. That's what Battler's position essentially is. His job is not to deny the existence of all magic, but to reveal that Beatrice's magical explanations of the events on Rokkenjima as being a sham. Julio-sama said: I am reading VN and I give the anime 10/10, no one can tell me different~Certainly, that ending is much more emotional than the anime one. XD Still, I really liked the anime so I give it 8/10. ^_^ BTW, I haven't played the visual novel, thus explaining the high score I gave it. LOL XD |
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| here's the "most suspicious" poll for EP4 http://when-they-cry.net/Cgi/vote/umi_doub4/kekka.htm Kyrie should be higher |
| WTH? Kanon is second? How did that happen @,@ |
necrojesta said: Im sick of the VN readers, bitching on this series, its an adaptation for christ sake, it doesn't need to stay completely true to the games. I played the first game and thought the anime was a great adaptation for the first arc and for the rest of the series I still loved it and would give it a 10. ^ this. |
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Lol and Battler has been confirmed innocent already. (at least in terms of going around killing people) |
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Darklight0303 said: WTH? Kanon is second? How did that happen @,@ Well, he is really suspicious and Battler has never seen Kanon's dead body. And Beatrice said that no one killed Kanon in EP1 so it's possible that he didn't die in EP1. |
| Hmm fair enough LOL I see even Sakutaro is on there XDDDDD |
| http://umineko.wikia.com/wiki/Red_Text Judging by the previous red text, Kanon should be number 1. Battler should not even be in the list. |
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| *sigh at arrogance* I would continue, but its Christmas day. (well, in the UK it is anyway) So while I stand by my point about the conduct of SOME (not all) of the VN readers (in not just this ep discussion), I'll let it go. Afterall, Christmas is a time of joy and happiness. Unless your name is Simon Cowell (check the UK music charts). |
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hirahira said: here's the "most suspicious" poll for EP4 http://when-they-cry.net/Cgi/vote/umi_doub4/kekka.htm Kyrie should be higher You're right. She should be, and Battler doesn't even make sense. lol Siesta 556 is on there. |
| Maybe some of the people who voted for Battler weren't serious. The mackerel won the EP2 suspicion poll. http://when-they-cry.net/Cgi/vote/umi_doub2/kekka.htm |
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