Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Zoku Episode 6 Discussion

Kay_Lite said:
The hand language is strong in this one. Looks pretty weird as heck.
I'm in the same boat as Hikki too, have no idea what were they talking about. lol
It seems that Iroha's subordinates have some problem with Iroha herself? I can see why though.

Kay_Lite said:
I'm trying to support this ship.

HazukashiiSensei said:
Holy balls. I didn't think it's possible but this episode was even more boring then the previous ones. Terrible season.
And this:

Yeah, so overdone.

dirtyuncle said:
Why do people like Iroha so much? I liked her at first, but not after this episode. She is not a competent student prez, she just smiles, nods her head, and lets the other school push all the actual work on theirs. Doesn't even make sense for someone supposedly good at manipulating people.

This is Sagami all over again.

JustALEX said:

That's seriously the only thing I took from this episode.

Some random dude saying nonsense while moving his hands in an unnatural way.

While that was indeed funny....I want my 24 minutes of watching anime to be a bit more productive.

What a waste.

PhantomViewer said:
This anime is so dumb. I greatly enjoyed the first season but now everything seems to be so over blown. Why is Yui and Hachiman talking in class such a big deal? Why does no one just outright say what they feel rather than just sit there and try to figure out some retarded solution without actually dealing witht he problem? Honestly this is not how real life works. Most people I've have an issue with I tell them, and we either work it out or stop talking to each other. Why doesn't just someone tell the fucking handsy president that his plans are too big. Jesus christ this anime makes no sense. And why the fk is Yukinon so fking depressed? I dont understand her problem with her sister, her family, or her friends. She is filthy rich, smart, and beautiful. What else could she want? Sure her relationship with her family and sister is bad, but how does that justify her behavior?

Also why dod people even like this ishikki bitch? Honeslty she is the most annoying chaarcter out of all of them. She is cold and calculated and treats most people like tools, while having a "cute girl" persona. Honestly hate her character the most.

Shuhan said:


I cant stop looking at that gif

Smudy said:
Hachiman and Iroha bring in a completely new dynamic in this show. Very fresh dialogues and actions between them. One of the best episodes IMO.

Shaily said:
I didn't liked some of the episodes at first because of the negative atmosphere it loves to display but man, this episode was hilarious. I cracked up at-
Handifap man- "We need to think logical thinking hats while adopting a logical mindset"

Hikki- "Isn't that the same thing? How many times are you gonna think logically?"
XDD
And many others. Those people must have jumped straight from a highly standardized co- operate society or something.

Things at their club are sure gloomy- all because of Yukino. I'm kinda getting irritated by her cold and gloomy attitude. How much time does it take for someone to cheer up? It wasn't a big deal.

On the other side, I'm starting to like Isshiki. Am I the only one who secretly wants to ship Hikki with Isshiki? They are kinda going good together. :)

Also- Someone needs to slap that middle school girl. How did Hikki even had a crush on her? She's annoying as hell.

supracseduch said:

I kinda understand the hate, but is she really the most annoying thing ever to you?



~Dayone?

Despite everything, she still talks and interacts with Hachiman on her own accord. That's just how she is. She probably kept him company a couple of times in Junior High, and she continues to do so for every acquaintance she meets. Most recently, she sat by his side for random chit chat.

Back then, Hachiman misinterpreted her approaches as 'romantic interest' or something. Remember Hachiman's monologue on 'nice girls'? She's probably the so-called 'nice girl' archetype which Hachiman gradually learned to dislike.

She retains her (quite annoying) habit of talking down to him, and Hachiman just goes along with it. But it might have been the other way around back then: Kaori might have just played along with Hachiman's self-deprecation.

Regardless, if nothing else, she played a crucial role in Hachiman's development into the Hachiman we all like.

Fawkey said:
It's true, their relationship is not as fake as Hayama's group. But that doesn't necessarily mean that Yukino (or even Hachiman and Yui) think so.

Yuzuryn said:

Haha, yeah. Yukino has her reasons for being all gloomy at the moment, but I think she's overdoing it a bit. Alas, she's still an edgy teenager so it's to be expected so I usually just ignore it. It'd help if she and Hikki communicated more yet they're both stubborn to a degree so r.i.p. x__x
Oh and they explained why Hikki had a crush on Orimoto in the anime but it was kind of brief. (More detailed ish in the LN)
But basically, you know Hikki's nice girl speech from Season 1? Orimoto is pretty much the nice girl he was talking about. They lure you in by talking to you constantly so it looks like that they're interested in you then you find out that they're not. You're hurt because you thought they were actually interested in YOU, but in reality they were just being nice. No real feelings. No real friendship. Superficial. (Whether their kindness is genuine depends on the person). I agree with you that she can be very annoying blEH. On a serious level, she's not a bad person. It's just that she's SUPER insensitive and doesn't realize that her words can hurt someone. She's one of the people who if you were to ask if you looked ugly today she'd reply something akin to "...Yeah, haha xDDD. You're not looking good today!" No evil intent, but it's still rude. she needs to wake up i swear

Shaily said:

Yeah I haven't read the LN so I don't know Yukino's reasons but I'm sure it would be revealed. It's just that she's being a bit annoying than b4. I actually feel bad for Yukinon who always tries hard to lighten up the atmosphere but fails miserably.
Whatever it may be- that bitch gotta realize that she's being RUDE.
Also curious- how many volumes of Oregairu has published till now and till what extent the anime will adapt? I read ppl saying that this ep was from volume 9.

Yuzuryn said:

MHM. Orimoto needs to get her shit together fast.
10 have been published! (If you don't count the extras such as 6.5 and 10.5 but those usually get put into OVAs) And 11 is coming soon. The anime may end on Volume 9 which has a really fitting end for a season. They may do Volume 10? I'm not too sure.

Vexper said:
gosh those hand gestures were like... idk i thought he was gonna pull a rabbit out of his ass or do some crazy sleight of hand.

cool ep, i love isshiki, she's such a great addition for 8man to hang with, they are so amusing together. the club scenes were absolutely agonising.

Shaily said:


Ok thanks :) Well, do you think the novel is close to the end or it will continue for a longer time?

Vangis605 said:


1- Hachiman doesn't have the best reputation, and frankly, it's just a fact that him and Yui don't talk much in class. She's over with Hayama's group normally.
2- They don't say how they feel because they don't clearly understand it themselves. Hachiman twice assumed what Yukino was thinking, and both times was wrong. Needless to say also, at least two of our main characters are socially awkward and overly self-conscious. The mystery behind the character true "face" and motives is interesting, along with their relationships.
3- The fact that you don't understand Yukino is good. Imagine how Hachiman and Yui feel? With some digging, we can come up with a good idea about why she's upset, but that would take forever to explain. Yukino is a deep character, but it doesn't transition as well in the anime as it does in the LN. She'll be labeled as a "bitch" by some, but I figure that those are the ones that don't care to try and understand her thinking. She probably has that reputation in their world too. Being rich and popular doesn't mean you'll be happy also.
4- Isshiki is certainly using Hachiman, but once again, she's not one dimensional like you assume.

If Hachiman had a super power, it would be seeing people beyond face value. You should probably try to do they same.

Apart from what other posters said, you completely contradicted yourself in the bold part, but whatever.
What you say is the optimal way of working out relationships, however it's idealistic. Real life doesn't work that way. People will always have masks, they will always let things simmer, and not really talk to each other.
That's what this series ultimately addresses. That's the message it's trying to convey.

Yuzuryn said:

The anime is dumb because it's realistic aka real life is dumb. I don't know what kind of life you lead, but I've met countless people who act like Yukino, etc and hide their feelings and what they really want to say. Gotta remember, man. Everyone's different. Some people don't let others know if they have problems with them for multiple reasons. 1. It may ruin the friendship and they want to keep it. 2. It may cause drama. and multiple others. Idk, maybe this anime isn't for you since Oregairu is pretty much a more realistic take on teenage angst and social relations. It's not exactly a good thing to do if you look at other people's problems from your own point of view. Example. Let's say A-ko has no social anxiety. Yet, B-ko does. A-ko can easily talk to others in person while B-ko struggles to do so. Wouldn't it be kind of mean if A-ko went to B-ko "Why can't you do this? It's SO easy! I can do it all the time." While it's easy for you, it's not easy for them. You're not in their shoes.

Farabeuf said:


Watari mentioned around volume 6 that he was around halfway through the story. Of course, considering the success, he could milk it a bit longer. But I believe we're a couple of volumes from the end.

Farabeuf said:


Watari mentioned around volume 6 that he was around halfway through the story. Of course, considering the success, he could milk it a bit longer. But I believe we're a couple of volumes from the end.

bjorno said:
That childhood friend of Hikigaya is very annoying. She keeps laughing, what is there to laugh about?

PhantomViewer said:

There are some relationships that can't be fixed, for example, Hachiman and orimoto. After her behavior would you really keep on talking to her? I would ignore everything she says, because that is a relationship that is obviously not wanted.

PhantomViewer said:

1. If you were to talk to a classmate for perhaps not even 5 minutes, why would anyone come up to you and ask why both of you are talking? How is having a short conversation, even considering the context, questionable?

2. Then why doesn't he ask her how she feels? Why don't they work it out if it's obvious that she is not happy. I thought they wanted nonsuperficial relationships, and addressing any issues within a relationship without pretending everything is alright is the obvious nonsuperficial thing to do.

3. I understand that she is upset that their group is fake, but why cant she say that? Why cant she just say that what she likes and what she dislikes? I thought she was supposed to be blunt and honest. Perhaps if she voices her concerns the group can work them out.

4. She may not be one demensional, but she is in fact using Hachiman and not defending her student council group. Whatever reasons she has, her intentions are bad, which makes her a bad person.

If hachiman is so "self aware" and can see through people masks then why doesnt he just call them out on their bullshit rather than try to find some way to edge around the issue. Like with that red ahired girl during the festival on the roof.

MgMaster said:
Iroha's slowly stealing the spotlight from Yui & Yukino this season. Hikki & her have some chemistry going on. Too bad that ship won't ever sail though :(

PhantomViewer said:
There are some relationships that can't be fixed, for example, Hachiman and orimoto. After her behavior would you really keep on talking to her? I would ignore everything she says, because that is a relationship that is obviously not wanted.

PhantomViewer said:

1. If you were to talk to a classmate for perhaps not even 5 minutes, why would anyone come up to you and ask why both of you are talking? How is having a short conversation, even considering the context, questionable?

2. Then why doesn't he ask her how she feels? Why don't they work it out if it's obvious that she is not happy. I thought they wanted nonsuperficial relationships, and addressing any issues within a relationship without pretending everything is alright is the obvious nonsuperficial thing to do.

3. I understand that she is upset that their group is fake, but why cant she say that? Why cant she just say that what she likes and what she dislikes? I thought she was supposed to be blunt and honest. Perhaps if she voices her concerns the group can work them out.

4. She may not be one demensional, but she is in fact using Hachiman and not defending her student council group. Whatever reasons she has, her intentions are bad, which makes her a bad person.

If hachiman is so "self aware" and can see through people masks then why doesnt he just call them out on their bullshit rather than try to find some way to edge around the issue. Like with that red ahired girl during the festival on the roof.