Mushoku Tensei: Isekai Ittara Honki Dasu Volume 22 Discussion

NeutralSide said:
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Somebody needs to teach him to use Gravity magic already!

odysseyrh said:


you know we have seen Saint/ King spells for Water.....I wonder what saint/king for Earth, wind & fire...... :) looks like

also, rudeus might go into 7 major powers but not yet

the rudeus from future was a monster who'd even might kill orsted though

odysseyrh said:
remember in the Future Rudi had lost both Zanbo and Cliff so 2 talented ppl working on his armor weren't there. However this time around he has everyone with him to make an imitation Fighting God Armor that Atofe respected. Oh and Rudi this time was in his 20s whereas in the future he was probably in his late 40s early 50s

NeutralSide said:


Future Rudeus still has a Magic armor that's 2 Meter tall,That's enough for Atofe to realize that its an imitation of the Fighting God Armor.
Also,I doubt his age had any hand in that fight since it was never mentioned that he made a blunder due to it and that was due to him Underestimating moore.
That and Future Rudeus is more battle hardened at this point and has no restraints in killing people.

odysseyrh said:
no he doesn't.....remember he only makes the Mk I after deciding to slay Orsted so God would spare his family. So the future rudi fought Atofe with just his magic skills alone

How can I get stronger?
　Should I train my magic?
　Should I look for users of King Ranked and Emperor Ranked magic?
　No, going by the trend thus far, those above Saint Ranked only increase in scale, and won't really be of use in combat.
　The situation is that I have no King Ranked or above magic except the lightning attack, but even so I'm not lacking in offensive capabilities.
　The problem is defense and mobility.
　I can't wear touki, and my speed and defense fall behind others.
　what should I do?
■
　A certain book wrote about the Fighting God.
　The Fighting God wore a golden armor over his body, which meant that his physical abilities were increased manyfold.
　When I spoke about this with Zanoba, he came up with an idea.
　Wearing 『Zariff's Prosthetic Hand』 over my whole body.
　Thinking about it, though I can't use touki, as long as I fill mana into my prosthetic arm, I can display power greater than normal.
　If I make the armor myself, and make it the absolute hardest, then covered my whole body in it...
　Alright.
■
　I gained Zanoba's cooperation and the full-body armour was a success.
　It's a little over 2 metres.
　It ended up quite large.
　Moreover, the mana consumption is high, and no one can handle it but me.
　It's halfway to a huge piece of junk.
　Were Cliff alive, we might have been able to create a more efficient armor but...
　There's no use in saying that.
　At any rate, I've copied a certain game and named it 『Magic Armour』

How can I get stronger?
　Should I train my magic?
　Should I look for users of King Ranked and Emperor Ranked magic?
　No, going by the trend thus far, those above Saint Ranked only increase in scale, and won't really be of use in combat.
　The situation is that I have no King Ranked or above magic except the lightning attack, but even so I'm not lacking in offensive capabilities.
　The problem is defense and mobility.
　I can't wear touki, and my speed and defense fall behind others.
　what should I do?
■
　A certain book wrote about the Fighting God.
　The Fighting God wore a golden armor over his body, which meant that his physical abilities were increased manyfold.
　When I spoke about this with Zanoba, he came up with an idea.
　Wearing 『Zariff's Prosthetic Hand』 over my whole body.
　Thinking about it, though I can't use touki, as long as I fill mana into my prosthetic arm, I can display power greater than normal.
　If I make the armor myself, and make it the absolute hardest, then covered my whole body in it...
　Alright.
■
　I gained Zanoba's cooperation and the full-body armour was a success.
　It's a little over 2 metres.
　It ended up quite large.
　Moreover, the mana consumption is high, and no one can handle it but me.
　It's halfway to a huge piece of junk.
　Were Cliff alive, we might have been able to create a more efficient armor but...
　There's no use in saying that.
　At any rate, I've copied a certain game and named it 『Magic Armour』

true dat. sorry over 22 vol long and over 30 yrs old....I forget stuff lol. But there the problem 1) wasn't the future Rudi Mk I a version 1 at best version 2 whereas when he fights her for realz its the Mk I v3 so its faster, stronger and tougher. 2) point it out for me if you can. but did he even have the armor in the fight in the future? I mean he doesn't come up with the summoning armor til just before the Milision arc.

odysseyrh said:
ok little learning time for you sonnie. Yes he has 3 armor Frames atm...[however we haven't seen Mk III yet in combat] The Mk I and the Mk II.

Mk I is over 2m tall
Mk-IA was the one used against Orsted
Mk-IB would be the refurbished and upgraded version post Orsted Fight

Mk II is the standard personal one he wears
Right now its the 2nd edition or Mk-IIB

yea I looked back at that part too. it doesn't say weither or not he had the FMA on when he was battling Atofe but even if the FMA is a downgrade of the Mk-1(A) then it should still have impressed Atofe like the MK-II(B)


but really I wanta see Mk-III what kind of crazy stuff is it going to have?!? The possibilities!


now what was the original question cause I know we got side tracked...I forgot

There is a remembrance.
That armor. Even before Laplace's military campaign, during the Second Great Human-Demon War.
She remembers seeing it before it was sealed.
It's form is slightly different.
It's color is slightly different.
However, those are trivial things.
Like hell there are many instances of this sort of armor in this world that can be collected.

odysseyrh said:
I'd have to look but the Fighting God armor they are talking about belonged to the first FG and was sealed away. Badigadhi I what the 2nd or 3rd FG and he doesn't need armor since he's immortal and has fighting spirit

I could be wrong on this

NeutralSide said:


Nah.It was revealed that Badigadhi is the Original Fighting God.Aldebaran is his Epithet.
He got a revelation from Hitogami and steal Laplace's Magic Armor to protect Kirishika.

Also I'm calling Rudeus [Dragon Magician]God(because Saint dragon touki) or [Fighting Magician]God in the future.

I suck at naming titles

odysseyrh said:


hmmm I am digging Dragon Magician God since he is Right Hand of the Dragon or Dragon's Claw (some such nonsense) so that's sounds cool. Fighting Magician God just sounds dumb.

azanimefan said:
demon god Laplace is actually a possible mistranslated

Understand the Japanese word for "demon" in use in this case also can be translated as "magic"

You'll notice the "magic" continent and "demon" continent are different translators using different translations for the same place. Same for "magic" race and "demon" race. It's the same word as used on the 7 world powers monument.

Early in the series translation the first couple of translators decided based on context to translate the word as "demon", for continuity, later translators mostly kept the translation as "demon" though in retrospect it's clearly a poor translation.

the 7 world powers monument is clearly calling the 4th world power Laplace the "MAGIC" god.

There is just one place in the 7 world powers for Rudy to take. and that is no.4, the magic god ranking. In order to do so he needs to defeat Laplace.

odysseyrh said:
Um the 7 world powers don't work that way persay. If Rudi became more powerful than Laplace but weaker than Orsted than Rudi would be ranked #4 on the list and Laplace would move down to #5 and the old #7 would just drop off the ranking system.

azanimefan said:


actually this is exactly how the 7 world powers ranking works. you must fight and kill the prior holder of the ranking; or have the title yeilded to you by the former holder. it's why the sword god asked Eris if she wanted to fight him for the title "Sword God"

furthermore, its supposed to be a title that "fits" your technique/race. I guess Rudy could take the title "fighting god" since he has the MKI (v2) armor, and has defeated Badigadi; not that they really fought. perhaps after the next book if he beats badigadi.

NeutralSide said:


Speaking of mistranslation,if Mushoku Tensei were to get an anime.
Do you think the Languages would be in Japanese?
Rudi confirmed the Human language sounds similar to English if I recall.
Or like the anime "The devil is a part timer" make up gibberish language?
Make some random bullshit for the other languages?

NeutralSide said:
I'm bored as hell.
One more month!
I'm gonna off topic a bit and say that "Dungeon ni Deai wo Motomeru no wa Machigatteiru no Darou ka" is getting an anime.
So many light novels getting an anime adaptation!
Watch it become 90% fan service with Hestia's boobs.

odysseyrh said:


D you know when in March the next vol will start?
I don't mind LN's getting adapted I just hope they do a good job at it.
well she is the Big boobie loli.

NeutralSide said:


What LN are you talking about?
If its Mushoku Tensei,I don't know honestly.
From what I see in the Web novel page every one month vacation they put up the every chapter in the beginning of the month.
Maybe we get in the beginning of march? Don't quote me on that.

Just noticed that Dungeon ni got licensed and I can't read the Volumes anymore.
*Cries*

odysseyrh said:


its password protected but u can still read it
Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei is the one that was adapted that I wasn't too impressed with. they tried to do too many arcs over too short a period. They left out one short arc that would have explained the characters more (Tatsuya and Miyuki relationship). The action scenes were o.k. but a few of them that are BA in the LN where botched or omitted in the anime. They took the easy way out and just made the MC a hardcore siscon and a Gary Stu but left out that he's been training since he was 9.

NeutralSide said:


What's the password?

Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei,I only read the manga and thought he was a Gary Stu and the Anime is on my backlog.
I might pick up the LN to see all the fuss is about since its the best selling LN(2014) from what I've heard.

Piramyd said:
I seriously don't get why he got the Clairvoyance eye. Isn't the Ten Thousand Miles eyes better ?

I don't even understand why there are two eyes with the same ability, but one being better. With the better eye he could have spied on Gisu and found his exact position.

odysseyrh said:

when did Kishirika say she had more than Magic Power eyes, Identification eyes, X-ray eyes, Clairvoyance, Foresight, and Absorption eyes on her? your 10k mile eye doesn't sound familiar that and its range seems to far. If anything it should be 10m if so that's why they are different. Farsight can see into the distance whereas clairvoyance can find whatever your looking for wherever it is

Piramyd said:


The one eye she uses to find people is the Ten Thousand Miles / All Seeing Eye, not the Clairvoyance one. The only advantage the Clairvoyance seems to have is that it can be used as an alternative point of view, which seems pretty useless.

odysseyrh said:


ok did a little looking back it would appear that [All Seeing Eye] and [Clairvoyance Eye] are the same and not the same......how should I put it. they both work the same way just the range is different. Her eyes have a range of 10k Miles whereas Rudi is 1k mile range. more than likely its a matter of experience and "age". Given time Rudi's [Clairvoyance eye] can become an [All seeing eye] or maybe something else with his [Foresight]

The old man's eyes no longer saw anything.
His words made no sense, it was just vague phrases flowing out.
Before I knew it, the area below his eyes was dyed black, and the shadow of death had appeared on his face.
This is the face of someone about to die, no, of a corpse.

"Ah"

But those eyes suddenly focused on a single point.
He saw something over my shoulder and behind me.
He extended a quivering hand toward that.

"Aah, Sylphy, Roxy... Damn, you sure are cute as ever..."

NeutralSide said:
Since we're on this topic,I want your opinion on this guys.
Before Future Rudeus died He said this.

Could it be he had a Clairvoyance eye like the current Rudeus right now?
Or its one of those Near Death experience and you saw your love ones in heaven.

vazkro said:
pretty sick volume, a lot of things to talk about but the thing I am happiest about is that Rudy got a new magic eye. Depending on how he uses it it can be a total gamechanger. nearing the end now unfortunately and I honestly can't see it ending anytime soon so I am sure some big gamechanging events will happen in volume 23.
Scared yet hyped to read it