Mushoku Tensei: Isekai Ittara Honki Dasu Volume 22 Discussion

odysseyrh said:
haven't gotten to read all of 22 yet but after reading the first chapter got me thinking....I feel sorry for Aisha. In one future timeline it appears that she sticks to Rudi and never marries and has kids. Currently Lilith has trained her daughter with the idea that she would be ero loved by Rudi which isn't going to happen. As Luke said "Good women with Great men".... how is Aisha going to find a spouse when the greatest man and probably first crush is Rudi? I mean what man is going to stack up against that? Norn I don't see having a problem with finding someone since she spent most of her life hating Rudi and isn't too happy with his having 3 wives so he's not on such a high pedestal that she cant find something better in her mind but Aisha.......I fear she is doomed to be single for life.

NeutralSide said:


Well if Aisha is truly happy with this life changing decision then I can't feel bad for her.Also even if she wanted to marry a Weaker guy than Rudeus.I doubt Rudeus would stand in the way of the two's relationship,Maybe for a bit as a Brother after all but ultimately Trust his sister to that guy.
Same applies to Norn.

Also I haven't read the new Volume YET and for days now been checking on it everyday in hopes that its finished Translating.
I'm at my wits end....

odysseyrh said:
well 4 chapters are done the 5th is 2/3s done so

NeutralSide said:


I'm actually waiting for 5 to get finished so I can get to the side story that I wanted to read without any delays.

odysseyrh said:
oh I am more waiting on 6 and 7.... I want to know the gender and name of Rudi's fourth kid. (Hope its another girl.....but chances are its a boy so then what name the Armor Dragon King will give it will be interesting)

odysseyrh said:
Slyphy = Nia.....I dunno man Slyphy seems more.... "dignified" than Nia. well hopefully the manga version keeps going and doesn't cut off at something like chpt 50ish

NeutralSide said:

Whenever I try to imagine Sylphy's appearance.Nia just pops out.
Hope so too.Wonder if we get an Anime in the future.

odysseyrh said:


that would be nice but with all the sex/ mature content unless they go for a TV-MA rating its not going to be as good or at best they will cut it off at when Rudi/Eris get back to the starting town. With all the LNs that have gotten adaptations and since the timeslot Naruto used up is gone maybe more good LNs/ web novels will get animes.....heres hoping one of them is Mushoku Tensei or Tate no Yuusha no Nariagari

NeutralSide said:

I'm fine with them implying "They did it" afterwards instead of omitting it.
Yeah TV-MA rating is really ideal for this series in hopes of a faithful adaptation.Don't want them half-assing World bulding,Magic explanation,Remove blood,etc.
Overlord got one,It won't be too long till we get ours lol.

odysseyrh said:


wait what Overlord got an anime adaptation??? since when?

oh wow Rudi just got a "power up".....talk about over kill now

NeutralSide said:


Chapter 234: Pergius being an ass and naming the Fourth child.
Watch this guy give a Shitty name like "Georgius".
In all seriousness I wish Rudeus and Sylphy were the one to give it a name.I wouldn't want a Guy to name my child even if he's the King of the world.

Also Probably an Elven sounding name will be awesome.

wachidota said:
This volume is one of the most plot explaining volumes we got, with Nanahoshi´s theory, also cant wait to the next volume where everything explodes on a free for all fight. does anyone know when next volume comes up?

odysseyrh said:
march

NeutralSide said:
Drunk face Rudeus just revealed his past lul.
On a side note,I feel odd at the name "Siegfried Saladin" maybe because I was used to the simple names like Lucy,Lara,Arus.
I don't like the name Saladin by the way.
Then Good thing he isn't Laplace..Hope his future offspring would be the same as well.

Nanahoshi is in Cryostasis probably after she wakes up Rudeus is dead already.(Or did they say that every once a month she's release from her Cryostasis?)

I'm sensing that Ruijerd will become an enemy.Hey! Anything can happen and I'm expecting the unexpected.Even death.
Lastly,Rudeus just went more OP with his Clairvoyance eye.Then just imagine what happens after His MK armor gets upgraded.
Anyway Good set up for the next volume,I'm pretty stoked.

NeutralSide said:

Really?
Thought it was mostly monthly?
Aww I'm gonna die in February.

Also anyone felt the chapters are gravely shorter compared to before?

odysseyrh said:


well they did say that they will call him Sieg.

Oh the feels for Nanahoshi! I hate that she's been put on ice but hopefully this isn't so the author can forget about her. Kind of felt like that, you know after she graduated and went to the Sky Castle it was like "oh yea I have this character we haven't seen in a while might as well write about her". However her theory is an interesting one. But yea sounds like when she can go home Rudi will be died (old age).

About your Reijerd....oh god please no we already had an Et tu? moment with Gisu I really don't want that with Reijerd. But since he has a history with both Rudi and Gisu hopefully he will just say I will stay out of it like Death God does.

NeutralSide said:

You know...I hope I'm wrong.
But my experience of Manga and anime over the years are telling me this is a Set up for Ruijerd to die.
Even Eris is coming along.All the pieces are here.
Well it could be betrayal but I highly doubt it with like you said They have history with each other.

Also I'm still confused with this one part.Is Laplace their ally or enemy?
In that case Ruijerd might just turn on Rudeus.

needalist said:
are the volumes' length (word counts) getting shorter? I feel like I am reading less and less. Maybe the next one will be longer since this volume is mainly about setting things up. Also I just know there will be an ecchi scene involving Rudeus using his new ability (clairvoyance) to peek. It will be amusing when the wives hear about it and discuss about Rudy's future actions.

odysseyrh said:

they vary in length for the average its 10-11 chapters and 1 side story the biggest vol 13 at 15 chapters

needalist said:


do you think that the chapters themselves are getting shorter? I got the feeling that the individual parts ( part 1, 2, 3, etc.) in each chapter was longer. Maybe because those were Rudy's high points in life.

needalist said:
are the volumes' length (word counts) getting shorter? I feel like I am reading less and less. Maybe the next one will be longer since this volume is mainly about setting things up. Also I just know there will be an ecchi scene involving Rudeus using his new ability (clairvoyance) to peek. It will be amusing when the wives hear about it and discuss about Rudy's future actions.

NeutralSide said:

Yeah it did got shorter.
I was actually reading from the start again and it took me a lot of time to finish one chapter compared to the new chapters in volume 22.Definitely got shorter.
I found it to be more in depth as well.(Probably because it was the start?)

Hope the Author isn't rushing to finish this like he said that he wanted to finish it before 2015 ends.(Highly doubt it though there's still LOTS and LOTS of years left to Rudeus)

odysseyrh said:


umm comparing vol 19 (10 chpt + 1 side story) against vol 22 its 10 page difference or about 6000 word difference take your pick but other than that its about the same. Granted these are the web versions/ first releases when they get adapted into LNs and publish they tend to get changed/added on a bit so

NeutralSide said:


Yeah I was wrong.
Actually used a Word counter to count the difference between a couple of volumes.
Its roughly the same.
Probably seemed faster to me since I was just too excited to read after each new chapter.

Also I miss Paul.
dammn itz.
I want to hear his thoughts about his Grandchildren and the three wives.
;~;

odysseyrh said:


yea it did feel short to me for the same reason. But with it being a set up vol I can understand its length, I mean the only way to make it longer would be to add a side story something like "the day in the life of the sisters". I wouldn't mind what is going on with them since they both are about to be 16. In this world their just a few years away from settling down and starting their own families so it would be nice to know who they hang out with or have interest in so it doesn't come as a shocker when it happens. Aisha is the only one I am worried about....right now in more than one way.... I mean rudi is abstaining and Aisha has been trained since birth to umm "serve" rudi so umm yea on one of those setting up a Mercenary Company outings I am afraid she's going to push just enough buttons to make Rudi's willpower to break. Oh and on that note it seems that the women in the house would O.K. it too.

About Paul... I do miss him but in a way its good for Rudi's growth. I want Zenith to get more of her old radiance back, maybe not talking but more facial expressions hell even an old laugh from her would be nice.

NeutralSide said:

I want that as well.Wouldn't want a random schmuck that came out of nowhere and declares to have been in a relationship with Norn.I feel bad.
Didn't think about that scenario happening at all.(I'm that confident about Rudeus not touching his Sisters) but now that you brought it up it made me feel a little anxious.
That's something that could potentially shaken up everyone in the family in a bad way.Especially Norn.
Rudeus might also get some mixed feelings to the readers if he does commit Incest(Which he kinda did with Eris but ehh its acceptable) then even more harder to accept if its due to the reasons that he was a Horndog and touched Aisha because of it.
Anyway hope it doesn't happen.

Yeah.I really want to know her thoughts..maybe once Lara grows up.
I personally just want someone that known them since they were kids and just shocked after all these years and reminisce about the past(I enjoy those developments xD)
Zenith is mute wasn't fully satisfied with the Miko.
Lillia was kinda eh about all this.(I would have wanted some Perspective)
The boreas are dead
Paul is gone.
Sylphy's parents are dead.

Close thing I got from that is Roxy's parents and probably even Ruijerd in the next volume.

Jet_Blackhazel said:
so epic things will go down at bihaeril in next volume
seigfred saladin greyrat sounds nice.
also, i'm starting to dislike that akihito guy for some reason
next volume will be a blast though. everyone's favorite lolicon ruijerd is back!

odysseyrh said:


Akihito? who now?

NeutralSide said:

I think its the acquaintance of Nanahoshi that's living in the future.
Also this is something I noticed lately but why is Rudeus forgetting a lot of stuff lately.
"I can't remember" "Did he say something like that before? I can't remember" ,etc.
Didn't he praise his body as a child for its wonderful memory capability? and I'm a bit worried with the frequent can't remember stuff.
Maybe the Future Rudeus who didn't mention Lucy/Zenith/Lilia in the future diary forgot about them?

I don't know.
Its making me anxious of a possibility of that sub plot to happen.
I hope I'm dreadfully wrong because I really don't want a Memory loss scenario and some bs like the Soul is starting to lose control of the body of Rudeus Greyrat or something.

Maybe I'm just over thinking this and its actually a common occurrence to everyone which naturally just forget stuff from time to time and its no biggie.

odysseyrh said:


its probably just age....physical and mental(spiritual) I am currently looking at it hes 24 with a mental age of 64 he's getting old. Hell I am 30 and I forget shit all the darn time and I used to have excellent memory. and its not a sould losing control on the body since Orsted did say that Rudeus Soul pretty much is inhabiting a body that was stillbirth so if his souls is "losing control" then its more apt to say Rudeus is dying.

Talking subplots: am I the only one that isn't fully buying Rudeus reason for abstaining?

NeutralSide said:

I think he started to forget stuff when he was 18-19 years old also isn't he currently 22 years old?
Well anyway I hope his Spiritual age doesn't affect his memories at this point and its Just as you said, He just forget things from time to time.



Not anymore.After reading everything again,This might end up with a Abstinent Paul/Rudeus putting his hands on Lillia/Aisha lul.
Still I hope it doesn't end up that way.I'm putting my trust on Eris whose highly likely coming with him against the fight with the North God or Ruijerd.
I sense another Turning point and its about time since the last one.

Also I really yet to see a full fledged Magician whose Emperor/God rank beside from Rudeus and all the opponents or Major world powers has been mostly people using the three main sword styles.
Its a bummer that Rudeus and Sylphy are currently the only ones capable of using Voiceless incantation and its probably next to impossible to see a powerful magician as an enemy(Laplace?) then not to mention Rudeus the only one having the most magic power currently in existence.
Then again maybe there's an unknown magician in the Heaven continent or Sea continent(Which I'm really hype up for to read about in the future).

odysseyrh said:


you get where I am coming from: When he found out "God" was planning and would have succeeded [had it not been for those meddling kids] (srry had to use Scooby-Do) what does he do, gives god the gaint middle finger and sires 2 more children. But when he gets an Et tu? from Gisu [a mere mortal] he goes all scaredy cat mode.

Actually I wouldn't be surprised if the four children learn voiceless incantation or Chant omition at the very least. I don't know I meantioned this here but I can see why Hitogami is afraid of Rudeus children. Never mind pedigree....there's 4 kings [minimum] teaching those kids. Right now the eldest is getting magic training from her mother and father and sword training from "Red-mama".

umm no Rudi is 6 or 7 yrs older than his sister and for sure they are now 15 but I think a year has past since they had that birthday party so 16+6=22 or 23 on the low side. Either way if he was forgetting stuff at 18 that still puts him at 52 mentally.

"I might have mentioned this before, it's easier for Hitogami to aim at us during pregnancy. Gisu might also be aiming for that so let's stop for a short while."

They look like they've heard that for the first time.
Did I not tell them about it before?.......
I told them but they might've forgotten.

odysseyrh said:
Anyway do you think Rudeus will join one of the Major world power at one point?

as in one of the 7 strongest in the world? If that's what your asking ummm Orsted is what #2 or 3 on that list I cant remember