Shigatsu wa Kimi no Uso Episode 7 Discussion

Kolnikov said:

I don't really understand your point when you say that is obvious that I would feel disappointed with Shigatsu, but yeah, that's what I've been thinking. They're using the music more for develop the plot as they want. Is like is just there for the background, and this is pretty annoying for me. Although I'm also annoyed by the fact that 70% of the show is kids crying all over the place =D. I guess I'm a little bit naive to expect something more out of it, but I'll hope for improvements.

kolnikov said:


I honestly think you should stop reading things literally and try to understand within the context. Anyway, I was just saying that they spend more time trying to be psychological, doing slapstick comedy and showing unnecessary conversations than doing actual music (different from Nodame Cantabile for example).

Hurr durr piano competition. LOL at the piano competition; one entire episode and they didn't even show the kids playing. And at the end a FUCKING CLIFFHANGER HAHAHA. This isn't only with this episode btw. The music is being neglected in almost all of them, and they are treating as if it was some kind of superpower.

But well, you can like whatever you want, and I can cringe and laugh for whatever I want to. I was just sharing some thoughts, you really don't need to take my opinion as an universal truth. Of course the problems I point out are made up by my view on the show lol.

PrinceTY said:



It's really laughable how you equate no playing == no music focus. That's just....sad.

Music is not only about the actual moment on stage you know. What do you mean "without actually doing music" anyway? You have failed to notice so I am going to kindly point out that most episodes (if not all) had a "music motifs" all over them. (despite sharing them with other themes). Episode's 7 back stage moments were also a crucial experience of being a classical musician, Arima's struggle with trying to insert himself into his Chopin piece is also an important process in classical music Sure it's not the deepest music philosophy but to go all the way to say there's no music focus is just shallow, and uninformed. Unnecessary conversation? You know what. I kinda get where you're coming from. You're just cringing at things you don't understand. Bravo.

PrinceTY said:
Nah, not butt hurt. Just doing the right thing here of educating people. You're welcome. When people are wrong and uninformed, I feel compelled to do the right thing.

Apparently you didn't understand what I'm trying to say. Just let me know if you want me to go slow and explain it again so that even you can understand! I'm a very patient person.

Just kidding.

I don't care whether you like this or not. It's tragic that you don't unfortunately. But all I want you to realize that the reason why you're not enjoying it is not because of actual flaws but your uninformed perception.

PrinceTY said:
Ah.

It just makes me wonder what kind of piano you play or what a wonderful "actual music life" you live.

PrinceTY said:
I tried one of the La Corda series before. But I think it wasn't so focused on chamber music. (there was just girl with a violin who had somehow magic powers and able to play music despite not having music background?). I don't thing this is the one you're referring to. But anyway that was kinda reverse-harem. Watchable but not great.

La Corda Blue Sky is a Spring 2014 anime? I think I've watched 1-2 episodes and dropped it. Can't remember why. Didn't captivate me.

Unfortunately I don't play any string instruments because I can imagine how fun it would be to play chamber music. Piano is a lonely instrument, generally.

mayukachan said:

The first and second La Corda series (Primo and Secondo Passo) are focused on solos only. I read it, and didn't finish the anime. It was fine but like, yeah it's targeted towards girls only.

And yes, I'm talking about Blue Sky. It has chamber. It's not a good show though haha

Can't you have piano + other instruments in chamber music? I know that piano + cello + violin is a popular combo

@Kolnikov
Episode 8 is probably going to be a full concert (2 or 3 performances total, depending on how they pace it) so yeah there will be music. Calling it!

I bet there will be people complaining in the episode discussion that they skipped over the performance because it was too boring lmao plebs!

Kolnikov said:
Hmmm that's very nice to read. Probably I should wait some more then. But perhaps what I really want is another season of Nodame Cantabile

mayukachan said:

The first and second La Corda series (Primo and Secondo Passo) are focused on solos only. I read it, and didn't finish the anime. It was fine but like, yeah it's targeted towards girls only.

And yes, I'm talking about Blue Sky. It has chamber. It's not a good show though haha

Can't you have piano + other instruments in chamber music? I know that piano + cello + violin is a popular combo

@Kolnikov
Episode 8 is probably going to be a full concert (2 or 3 performances total, depending on how they pace it) so yeah there will be music. Calling it!

I bet there will be people complaining in the episode discussion that they skipped over the performance because it was too boring lmao plebs!

mayukachan said:
Can't you have piano + other instruments in chamber music? I know that piano + cello + violin is a popular combo

Kolnikov said:
Oh yes, and I play piano and I know how is to play in front of a lot of people. And no, they're not dealing with actual musicians problems, perhaps only touching the surface.

-Skyleo- said:

Personally, although I enjoy Shigatsu, I don't think Kolnikov is entirely wrong when he says this show "isn't really about music", even if I also think there is not really an "actual music life", because it tend to differ from person to person.

But yeah, Shigatsu is not really about music for itself, especially if you compare it with Piano no Mori or Nodame Cantabile.
Sure they play music in Shigatsu but in fact, music is like the background of the main protagonists, not the actual theme of the anime. We neither see Arima doing some piano exercices in order to manage a difficult passage in a Chopin piece (when Piano no Mori did that) nor see the main characters talking about things like the meaning of a musical passage in particular, or idk, sight-reading for example (when Nodame Cantabile did that).

I think Shigatsu is more about character development of the main character, who is musician. As a result, we have typical shonen tropes more than a realistic treatment.
From what I understand Kolnikov is just disappointed about the romanticized view of classical music that Shigatsu offers, it's not a big deal, really.
Moreover, I can be wrong, but I don't think Shigatsu is trying to be deep. Rather, Shigatsu is trying to be entertaining and inspiring without getting to the bottom of things, in order to be as accessible (and enjoyable) as possible to anyone.

That said, it does not automatically mean Shigatsu is not as good as Nodame, those two shows are different and presents different visions of the same theme. Like I said, for me, Shigatsu is more shonen-esque, with some high school romance tropes than Nodame, and it's not a flaw, I like it personally, it's very entertaining.

PrinceTY said:
I don't know if we should be expecting a music anime that goes into detail and tell us about how the musicians struggle with difficult passages. That would be interesting, at least to people who know music or play the instrument. I don't remember Nodame actually going into that much detail as well. But yeah it was a lot less flowery overall so that might have caused people to feel it was more grounded into reality.

TragicRomance said:
Why did Emi say that he didn't change in past two years? Was that a script mistake or did I get something wrong?

Cliffhanger huh.

PrinceTY said:


This?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AhR9mkqADk

Kaioshin_Sama said:
skimming through this episode I realized just how much Natsuki Hanae's delivery contributes so negatively to this show. I just can't stand this guys inflection where he seems like he's brutally overplaying the whole part, though that probably has a lot to do with him just being not at all what I envisioned for the role so much as A-1 forcing him onto the project cause they have a raging hard on for trying to promote him in their shows. I think I found yet another thing to avoid when it comes to anime in any case. Note to self, avoid shows with Natsuki Hanae in it from here on out cause he sucks and brings like no personality or distinct quality to any of his roles in anything I've heard. Yuki Kaji is in this now too and I feel bad for calling Hanae the next Yuki Kaji cause listening to the two in the same show I feel that's an insult to Kaji who is definitely leagues better.

At least Saori Hayami kind of made up for it though she could probably act circles around anyone in this show at the best of times. That said a lot of the scenes in this show are still just way too overwrought compared to how they come across in the manga as just kind of more natural. A-1 is really trying so desperately to play this one up as a prestige project yet every single time the awkwardly placed slapstick comedy brings it crashing back down to Earth. Oh well what else is new.

Payper said:
hat was soo... nah! He pretended to be strong, but then he just broke down. I knew it!