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Oct 29, 2014 10:29 PM

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Damn so much arguing in the first pages of this discussion sadly..

I thought it was a good episode, not great I suppose. Its nice that Migi's plan worked.

Damn, I knew that teacher's mother was going to die the moment she stepped foot in her apartment, it was really obvious to me when she started saying stuff about her not being her daughter O.O I was thinking "shit, wrong thing to say to her!"

The most interesting part about this episode to me was that discussion about every species has directives. I know the lady said that their species has the wipe out humans? directive, but that just made me more curious where the hell that even came from. Is she trying to say like its something they were just programmed to do from the moment they existed?

There's an interesting set up for the following episode(s). It seems like mc will be alone for a while, maybe he'll go out more to encounter more of those alien things and their hosts. I'm very very keen on him actually meeting another person who hasn't been completely taken over, like himself, that would be cool..
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So only one other person who hasn't read the manga noticed the OP spoiler.
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Oct 29, 2014 10:49 PM

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lol the mom's reaction when the dad said spanking the monkey xD

And yes Migi is adorable when he doesn't understand something.
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Oct 29, 2014 10:51 PM

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Nice episode~ It was really creepy when Migi detached lmao
Oct 29, 2014 11:02 PM

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Good episode lol with detached Migi and spanking the monkey moment.
Oct 29, 2014 11:25 PM
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Step 1: Take some teenage douchebag who almost has a girlfriend.
Step 2: Give him Super Powers
Step 3: Have monsters attack him and his family.
Step 4: Add "Horror" and "Psychological" elements, which are actually just the mc crying like a bitch and/or his friends dying randomly.
Step 5: Add dubstep cause all the kids like dubstep.

Boom 8.0 on mal.

BTW, this formula works for Tokyo Ghoul, Akame Ga Kill, Mirai Nikki and any other generic trash gore shounen anime.


Except Kiseijuu is NOT a battle shonen, but instead a seinen. It actually has more substance than those shows combined.
Oct 29, 2014 11:28 PM

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I would have already tried asking Migi to detach and transform into a hot girl but I guess that's just me


Anyway another freaking great ep

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Oct 29, 2014 11:53 PM

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"spanking the monkey" hahaha
Oct 30, 2014 12:48 AM

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Good episode. I'm surprising Shinichi was able to stab that Parasite man so easily, or at least it went in easily and his aim was very good.
Oct 30, 2014 12:55 AM

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I really liked the episode and I dont ever let anyone elses opinions change my opinion on a show, thats the way it should be but its nice to see people have differing opinions however some people in this forum appear to be well somewhat salty haha if you want to have an arguement with someone on a foroum make it inteligant otherwise your just going to get trolled, people need to learn to back up their points with facts not emotions.

that aside I have read through the manga twice and I love the way things are going and yes you cant have everything in a manga adapted it just doesn't happened you need to see the anime and the manga as 2 stand alone things sorta, kinda like 2 different perceptions of a story I guess I cant really explain it but I can tell anyone that is thinking of dropping this that the story is about to get good and I say that with 100 percent certainty.

this is not a shonun at all the battles dont last 20 episodes they are realistic to the nature of the series and thats the way it should be the battles are outweighed by the emotion and psychological impact through the great story telling which I hope is done in the anime like it was in the manga.
Oct 30, 2014 1:14 AM

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Oh, yeah, mum is going to die. (it's just a prediction)
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Oct 30, 2014 4:17 AM

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SzJ said:
Oh, yeah, mum is going to die. (it's just a prediction)


My prediction is that she'll turn into a parasite. At least, that's what the opening made me assume.
Oct 30, 2014 6:09 AM

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it's coming
Oct 30, 2014 6:37 AM
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Yet another great episode. 4 episodes in and we're getting more character development than some shows do in an entire series. With Shinichi, his mother, Migi, and even Tamiya. And since it's a full 24 ep anime, I'm sure there'll be quite a few more characters that will be added that'll also get good development. I think I'm gonna wind up loving this anime, as long as it continues doing all the right stuff.

They really approach the psychological and drama aspects well. And there are also some subtle messages being conveyed, if you're keen enough to pick up on them.
Oct 30, 2014 7:08 AM
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Parents got away. Things will get more serious.
Oct 30, 2014 7:15 AM

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Great episode. Can't wait for the next. :D
Oct 30, 2014 7:26 AM

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5/5

Some aspects in the story, making the story more intriguing, as well as some references in the opening.
I have a bad feeling towards the mother of Shinichi.
The enjoyment of the story is good.
The design quality decreases, but the animations are still acceptable, I wonder if the BD version of the anime does not receive a good review in order to increase the quality, I'd be happy with everything.
This TV series I'm liking asssai, the next episode seems veeery interesting.
Oct 30, 2014 7:38 AM

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Well this was an episode devoted to the power of motherhood. From our main's mother feeling the change and how something isn't as it was to the mother of Tamiya that realized very fast that that was not her daughter.

Personally i think there was a reason we got so much notice on the power of being a mother. I think this was a set-up about Ryouko's future development after she becomes a mother. That child will probably change her.

Keten said:

I love the scene where Tamiya is fired from her teaching position, any normal person would either have a fit or get stressed out and cry but because she is a parasite she just finds the behavior ridiculous and laughs at the stupidity of humans for actually caring about that stuff and just decides to move on as if nothing important was lost. Great.

We get some more insight into the parasites and why they kill, it's basically just their instinct that tells them to do so. They were put here to kill humans or whatever species they take over. I also love the part where she so casually talks about experimenting on her baby or even eating it. She threatens Shinichi but it seems like it wasn't an actual threat, she was just testing him. Foreshadowing!!


Well we don't really know if firing her was the goal there since she just got out and left.

From what i understood it seems like someone put an order in their DNA or something. I wonder if they were send to earth to simply eliminate humans. Maybe they are just a weapon of elimination from some Alien species or maybe whoever is playing God decided he doesn't like humans because they don't follow the directives they've been given.
Let's face it humans tend to go against their biological nature in many things. We are still animals etc and yet we built huge concrete city's we eat a tone of crazy unnatural things, we form relationships and work in society standards instead of natural standards.

No i think she was really about to attack him but detected something in him that make her rethink it. She maybe detected a slow corruption on his personality that makes him something different from human.
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SolvitePriest said:
Step 1: Take some teenage douchebag who almost has a girlfriend.
Step 2: Give him Super Powers
Step 3: Have monsters attack him and his family.
Step 4: Add "Horror" and "Psychological" elements, which are actually just the mc crying like a bitch and/or his friends dying randomly.
Step 5: Add dubstep cause all the kids like dubstep.

Boom 8.0 on mal.

BTW, this formula works for Tokyo Ghoul, Akame Ga Kill, Mirai Nikki and any other generic trash gore shounen anime.


Except Kiseijuu is NOT a battle shonen, but instead a seinen. It actually has more substance than those shows combined.


One could say this almost applies to the Monogatari series as well. And Tokyo Ghoul isn't generic, well that's just me anyway being a fan and all.
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Oct 30, 2014 8:11 AM

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I think Migi is adorably bad ass!

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Oct 30, 2014 8:24 AM

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Migi can separate from him now? That's some next level stuff there. Ryouko still creeps me out. The mother knew it wasn't her because ... duh ... it's her mother. Sliced her up real quick. I hope nothing bad will happen to Shinichi's parents while they're on vacation.
Oct 30, 2014 8:45 AM
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This episode was fast, I don't get trolls when they say it was slow paced, in the manga it was like 3 chapters with 30 pages atleast.

I feel sad for this world..this anime explains it. When do we get aliens too? This world sucks, we will be fucked by our own selves if something does not happen. For a small example that homo above SolvitePriest...how fucked up the world is.. :(
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I think its very fascinating that Migi can separate from Shinichi for at least 3 minutes :)
Oct 30, 2014 10:22 AM

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I think its very fascinating that Migi can separate from Shinichi for at least 3 minutes :)


Pretty sure that will come in handy (heh...) at some point. Wonder if the time can be increased.
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Oct 30, 2014 11:53 AM
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So far it is good,even though the quality of animation noticeably dropped.
In some way it feels a little generic,though I do like it a lot more than Tokyo Ghoul,Akame ga Kill!,etc..

So far I'd rate 7/10.
Oct 30, 2014 12:18 PM

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Interesting episode, but I didn't get the part with the talk about Ryoukos pregnancy. Why would it even be the business of the other teachers who the father of the baby is? And would she have to justify herself even if she just had the child unmarried? -.- I know that the manga is from the 80s but really? The mindset that you have to be married bevore having a child is so 50s...
Oct 30, 2014 12:19 PM

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So far it is good,even though the quality of animation noticeably dropped.
In some way it feels a little generic,though I do like it a lot more than Tokyo Ghoul,Akame ga Kill!,etc..

So far I'd rate 7/10.


its not possible for it to be generic, as its from 20 years before whatever it might have ripped off.
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SolvitePriest said:
DejWoSWK said:
So far it is good,even though the quality of animation noticeably dropped.
In some way it feels a little generic,though I do like it a lot more than Tokyo Ghoul,Akame ga Kill!,etc..

So far I'd rate 7/10.


its not possible for it to be generic, as its from 20 years before whatever it might have ripped off.


Yes,I do realize that,that is why I wrote that it feels generic. I can hardly dispute the fact that it is older and it was probably ripped off by other titles,but I can hardly help that it feels like generic after I got to know only now,so many years after it was released.

And it is kind of similar with JoJo in this matter.
Oct 30, 2014 12:50 PM

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The music placement was better but the episode kind of dragged.
Oct 30, 2014 1:02 PM

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The music placement was better but the episode kind of dragged.


lol it cant be 100 percent fight scenes.

Also i think its a bit too obvious that clearly his mother is going to die, leading him to take off the glasses and go full badass.

I mean you even see her face getting cut in the op.
Oct 30, 2014 1:03 PM

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Maybe aliens or some humans are sending them signals from somewhere :(

The mother's scene was okay and she's probably gonna get killed or turned into a parasite.

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Interesting episode, but I didn't get the part with the talk about Ryoukos pregnancy. Why would it even be the business of the other teachers who the father of the baby is? And would she have to justify herself even if she just had the child unmarried? -.- I know that the manga is from the 80s but really? The mindset that you have to be married bevore having a child is so 50s...

Because she's a teacher, it effects her job and she has to be a good example for the students.
Guess it's okay to deprive the kid from a father and a family right? tch
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Also, i dont think they are getting signals.

I think they are just Humanity's apex predator.

Its a fairly common them in horror stories for a "new predator" to show up, since humanity has been at the top of the food chain for like 5000 years.
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Also, i dont think they are getting signals.

I think they are just Humanity's apex predator.

Its a fairly common them in horror stories for a "new predator" to show up, since humanity has been at the top of the food chain for like 5000 years.


I thought after reading the first pages that you were trolling. Why have you become so civil lately?

OT: This episode was great. Good use of music and some character fleshing. Animation quality was not on par with the other episodes and the episode as a whole felt somehow anticlimatic from last week's cliffhanger. I'm liking Shinichi's character more and more but Migi is still clearly the best lol.
Oct 30, 2014 1:57 PM

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"spanking the monkey" LOL after googling what that meant, it either means "Taking things in to your own hand" or jacking off which is ironic.

Anyway, probably the best episode yet. I really liked the parallels between Ryouko's family and Shinichi's. How both mothers knew that something was off. I liked the OST as well, as the more suspenseful music fit really well to the dark setting.

Also, Shinichi reminds me of Shinichi from Detective Conan, with the whole "hide yo secrets" theme going on, plus they're keeping it secret for the same reason lol
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SolvitePriest said:
Also, i dont think they are getting signals.

I think they are just Humanity's apex predator.

Its a fairly common them in horror stories for a "new predator" to show up, since humanity has been at the top of the food chain for like 5000 years.


I thought after reading the first pages that you were trolling. Why have you become so civil lately?

OT: This episode was great. Good use of music and some character fleshing. Animation quality was not on par with the other episodes and the episode as a whole felt somehow anticlimatic from last week's cliffhanger. I'm liking Shinichi's character more and more but Migi is still clearly the best lol.


i wasnt trolling. I watched the episode and saw it negatively.

After some time, i rewatched it, and realized it wasnt QUITE as bad as i thought.

Personally i think the animation drop is much less worrisome than the slow pace and the "new EDM Style every episode" music.
Oct 30, 2014 2:02 PM

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The animation dropped? lol How do you guys even notice these things?
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The animation dropped? lol How do you guys even notice these things?


The animation itself was about the same, but a lot of the frames were really low quality.

For example, go to when they were sitting at the table together. Everyone looks like they were drawn by michael j fox.

Not to mention the Gif Battle between Migi and A where their bodies werent moving and the morph patters were just repeating themselves.
Oct 30, 2014 3:47 PM

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Tamiya's mom was overreacting. He daughter acts a bit strange and she goes for the police. While we're on the topic of moms, Shinichi's is woefully miscast. She sounds like a 16 year old.

Also I find it funny how much shitposting survived the mods comb-through
Answering super late, but I think the point the scene was supposed to get across is that no matter how perfect the copy is, it won't fool someone who gave birth to and raised the original for twenty/thirty+ years.
I guess it's not a relatable situation at all, as I'm pretty sure neither you nor anyone else ever had to meet a parasite who ate their daughter's brain and took her place, but the mom's reaction might make more sense if you think of the uncanny valley: past a certain point, the closer it is to an actual human being, the more jarring each little inconsistency or flaw gets.
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there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
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The animation itself was about the same, but a lot of the frames were really low quality.

For example, go to when they were sitting at the table together. Everyone looks like they were drawn by michael j fox.

Not to mention the Gif Battle between Migi and A where their bodies werent moving and the morph patters were just repeating themselves.


Do you watch each episode frame by frame or something? Or do you just not concentrate at all when watching? You would never notice those things if you were actually allowing yourself to be absorbed into the story. I get the impression you are watching but not really paying attention to the story and just looking at things to pick out.


LMFAO

its a tv show, not disneyland.

Why do people romanticize anime so much?

Lemme guess, when you watch parasyte the whole world disappears around you and you become one with shinichi right?

jesus christ.

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Tamiya's mom was overreacting. He daughter acts a bit strange and she goes for the police. While we're on the topic of moms, Shinichi's is woefully miscast. She sounds like a 16 year old.

Also I find it funny how much shitposting survived the mods comb-through
Answering super late, but I think the point the scene was supposed to get across is that no matter how perfect the copy is, it won't fool someone who gave birth to and raised the original for twenty/thirty+ years.
I guess it's not a relatable situation at all, as I'm pretty sure neither you nor anyone else ever had to meet a parasite who ate their daughter's brain and took her place, but the mom's reaction might make more sense if you think of the uncanny valley: past a certain point, the closer it is to an actual human being, the more jarring each little inconsistency or flaw gets.


No i think it was to show that the parasites have no idea what personality means.

Despite the fact that she looks/sounds like her, she still acts differently.

Much like Migi she is learning that theres more to being alive than basic unintelligent functioning.
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spoj said:
SolvitePriest said:


The animation itself was about the same, but a lot of the frames were really low quality.

For example, go to when they were sitting at the table together. Everyone looks like they were drawn by michael j fox.

Not to mention the Gif Battle between Migi and A where their bodies werent moving and the morph patters were just repeating themselves.


Do you watch each episode frame by frame or something? Or do you just not concentrate at all when watching? You would never notice those things if you were actually allowing yourself to be absorbed into the story. I get the impression you are watching but not really paying attention to the story and just looking at things to pick out.
There're at least two or three comments about the quality drop every page of the thread.

At this point, it's pretty safe to say that it was visible enough for anyone to notice.
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there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
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That was a pretty good episode. The fight had a bit of strategy to it and was very to-the-point. The exploration of motherhood (particularly Shinichi's mom's development) was interesting as well. However, what I'm most interested in at the moment is what Tamiya noticed before she attacked Shinichi. She said he wasn't "pure"; perhaps he's being altered by Migi somehow?

I wonder if they'll ever use the gun...

I did notice the gif-like animation during the fight, but it didn't bother me too much.
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Yeah i want to reinforce my opinion.

I think the mother could tell because she was acting differently/apathetic. Its the same with Shinichi.

I think the parasites are slowly realizing the concept of Empathy and determination.

Migi constantly studies the feelings and mental responses coming from shinichi, like when he watched as he lied to his mother. I dont think that was a threat. Shinichi took it that way, but i think Migi just wanted to see how he would react.

I believe a major part of this story might come down to how the parasites continue to mature and evolve in a world they still dont completely understand.
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I wonder if she can give herself a c section :^)
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SolvitePriest said:
spoj said:

Do you watch each episode frame by frame or something? Or do you just not concentrate at all when watching? You would never notice those things if you were actually allowing yourself to be absorbed into the story. I get the impression you are watching but not really paying attention to the story and just looking at things to pick out.


LMFAO

its a tv show, not disneyland.

Why do people romanticize anime so much?

Lemme guess, when you watch parasyte the whole world disappears around you and you become one with shinichi right?

jesus christ.


Nice exaggeration. Its pretty obvious from your posts that you like to pick out things which most people dont notice or dont care about. They certainly dont turn the anime to shit as you seem to imply. I feel sorry for if you cant absorb yourself in whatever you are watching. I admit its not possible when you find something boring or its something which has very little plot like slice of life animes. If you find yourself noticing trivial things its fairly obvious the story is not holding your attention. But I suppose that could be simply down to your own personal taste.

As far as plot and pace goes for this adaptation. Its really good. Its an almost exact adaptation to the manga. I just read the entire thing over the last few days so its pretty fresh in my mind. The only differences are modernisation and the skipping of side scenes which are not essential to the story. Such as the lion scene. Personally i felt that chapter was unneeded and out of place in the manga itself anyway. If things carry on as they are i think I will end up liking the anime over the manga.
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Oh, yeah, mum is going to die. (it's just a prediction)


My prediction is that she'll turn into a parasite. At least, that's what the opening made me assume.


Initially I thought so too but her expression doesn't change/face doesn't get twisted and it's just three lateral red cuts so I'm assuming she dies at this point.
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Answering super late, but I think the point the scene was supposed to get across is that no matter how perfect the copy is, it won't fool someone who gave birth to and raised the original for twenty/thirty+ years.
I guess it's not a relatable situation at all, as I'm pretty sure neither you nor anyone else ever had to meet a parasite who ate their daughter's brain and took her place, but the mom's reaction might make more sense if you think of the uncanny valley: past a certain point, the closer it is to an actual human being, the more jarring each little inconsistency or flaw gets.


No i think it was to show that the parasites have no idea what personality means.

Despite the fact that she looks/sounds like her, she still acts differently.

Much like Migi she is learning that theres more to being alive than basic unintelligent functioning.

I guess the uncanny valley was not the best analogy, considering it's more about physical appearance than what's inside, but when I talked about inconsistencies or flaws, the lack of empathy or humanity are also things I had in mind.
I just happen to think that in the case of parasites, their inhumanity is something one can see as well as feel (Tamiya's completely dead eyes must have been a dead giveaway for eg.).

So basically yeah, I agree with you.
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Kellhus said:
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there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
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''Spanking the monkey'' ; Oh wow, that dad is hilarious. The question is how long will he live?
Well, I'd say that I'm more scared for the mom in fact. I don't know, I think it's that shot in the OP where her head seem to ''open'' like the other parasyte host...

Migi evolved again. If I was Shinichi, I'd be scared as fuck that somday, Migi may be able to just take over his body.

As soon as A said that he would see if he can cohabit with Tamiya, it was over for him. As if she would do something so risky x)

I checked the illustration on MAL page for the show and the dude in the back caught my attention. It look like it's his body that transform. It is either a parasyte that have been able to take over the entirety of his host body or someone that is like Shinichi, but instead of the parasyte being only in the arm, it is on his whole body. That would be monstruous.
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I didn't know that Skrillex was Japanese.


There was no dubstep in this episode.
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The writing is pretty diabolical. Ryoko's character motivation is nonsensical; the development is so strained. The dialogue is painful at times, too. The dad says it's okay to feel safe now because there "aren't as many" murders. Well, great. I didn't know not as many was the same as none. And the mum says her child doesn't care about his parents because he changed his mind about the holiday and told them it would be good to get some relaxation time. What? Then she says it's like he's not her son anymore because "he's changed." What a shit mum. But nothing tops Ryoko. I'm going to kill you now. Oh, wait. No I'm not. Ugh. Poor adaptation, or are the characters in the manga also this dull?
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