Sword Art Online (light novel)
| To be honest I have been trying to like her, a lot at that. At first I just didn't wanna like because she wasn't Asuna but that would be unfair. So I gave her the chance to see if she can really pull through and become truly bad ass. There is an issue though, she is too tied to her past. I'm not saying that a back story isn't important and that its not good to have character depth but they really screwed herself in episode 10. All along she is telling Kirito that she refuses to believe such a thing is possible, there is no way that death gun can kill people in real life through the game. It can not happen and she refuses to accept it. But just as soon as Kirirto's worse nightmare comes true and she is in danger herself, she completely loses her shit. Sinon goes from I refuse, to having a full blown PTSD attack, all the way to not being able to shoot her gun, and then breaking down completely. I always look think back to SAO and then I think about Sinon who is just weak and pitiful. The people in SAO had to face life and death everyday if they were on the front lines. Kirito has had to kill and seen so many of his comrades die. The same can be said of Asuna. She went through it all the way and never gave up, never backed down, and always kept moving despite wanting to just call it quits when they got married and went on vacation. Sure, you could argue that the people of SAO accepted their reality and decided to survive. Sinon on the other hand had to go through it in real life but even then its just ridiculous for her to completely regress and give up. I keep feeling like Sinon is doing nothing but dragging Kirito down while Asuna and even Suguha helped him to persevere. They always had his back and would fight side by side even in the most perilous situations. Sorry for the rant, had to voice it. |
| You must be shapeless, formless, like water. When you pour water in a cup, it becomes the cup. When you pour water in a bottle, it becomes the bottle. When you pour water in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Water can drip and it can crash. Become like water my friend. Bruce Lee |
| Sinon is love, Sinon is life. |
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Botato said: Sinon is love, Sinon is life. ^ You can't hate a character for having a mental trauma and having a breakdown, her character is the second deepest one in the series [only behing Kirito himself]. While Sinon doesn't completely believe what Kirito told her about Death Gun, what made her "lose her shit" [which is a seriously stupid affirmation, btw] was seeing the exact same gun, if the replica is enough to put her on her knees, then the actual gun would be millions worse. Also, what makes you think Asuna AND Kirito didn't have the exact same breakdown? Kirito after his guild members annihilation basically became a robot and almost died a bunch of times. Asuna wasn't really focused, but she had a hard breakdown in first floor tho. The killing trauma between Kirito and Sinon can't be healed by anyone else, not even Asuna, not even Suguha, just between the two of them, cause Asuna didn't kill any LC members, Sinon is the only one who understands Kirito's feelings and viceversa. If you think having a breakdown like that is stupid or anything [i'm not saying you do] then you probably dont know anything about life. |
ReyxeSep 10, 2014 6:44 AM
| I was expecting a strong female character voiced by Miyuki so in theory she should have been the best thing since sliced bread. Somehow, though, I don't particularly care for her and I honestly find her "dramatic" past quite laughable to be honest. |
| 5 main aspects I base my ratings on: 1. Did DramaEnthusiast make a thread about it? 2. Is it better than Breaking Bad? 3. Did MellowJello recommend the shit out of it? 4. Has it caused a (very entertaining) shitstorm on MAL? 5. Is it actually good? Scratch the fifth point, it's not very relevant... |
| she was cool at first but now she's just another dumb whore that's a part of his harem |
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MrRbh said: Reyxe said: underworld? wut It's a subarc in alfheim online, kirito and leefa go there before reaching the world center.They will go there again in the Excalibur arc, right after finishing Gungale. I know that, but I think its not called underworld since that's how its called Alicization's "world" |
DerpHole said: she was cool at first but now she's just another dumb whore that's a part of his harem This |
| Yes the change of extremities of the story does make it hard to take seriously. Sinon's problems seem trivial compared to what everyone in Aincrad had to deal with. SAO is kinda going backwards in regards to the impact department. |
| She became a part of his harem when her heart started going doki doki when she was trying (and failing miserably) to snipe him on the bridge. and then he swept her up close to her and she was blushing furiously and was obviously wet. yall niggas sayin she aint a part of his harem are foolin yoselves |
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DerpHole said: She became a part of his harem when her heart started going doki doki when she was trying (and failing miserably) to snipe him on the bridge. and then he swept her up close to her and she was blushing furiously and was obviously wet. yall niggas sayin she aint a part of his harem are foolin yoselves "yall niggas sayin" she is part of his harem when someone reading the LN says she isn't are "foolin yoselves" |
| I hate her, she is too much tsundere |
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| I've never liked her much (in novels as well). As a character she is great, but she's just not my type :) |
MrRbahi said: Reyxe said: I know that, but I think its not called underworld since that's how its called Alicization's "world" No! I meant Alfheim underworld, the place where excalibur is hidden. It's thewhere leefa and kirito get lost and find those huge titans in the 4th book. Alicisation is the last arc. I know, but its not called underworld i think... it's called "Jötunheimr". |
| I don't like her but i also don't hate her so Neutral. |
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MrRbh said: DerpHole said: she was cool at first but now she's just another dumb whore that's a part of his harem Not really, she doesn't develop any feeling for him in the novels. Is this a freaking novel discussion thread? |
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| She's hot? |
Sapewloth said: MrRbh said: Not really, she doesn't develop any feeling for him in the novels. Is this a freaking novel discussion thread? If people would stop complaining about her "joining" the harem [which wouldn't be so shocking anyway, that's harem for everyone] when it doesn't happen, then there would be no reason to post that every day. |
Reyxe said: Sapewloth said: Is this a freaking novel discussion thread? If people would stop complaining about her "joining" the harem [which wouldn't be so shocking anyway, that's harem for everyone] when it doesn't happen, then there would be no reason to post that every day. adaption =/= source material =p |
hyperknees91 said: Reyxe said: If people would stop complaining about her "joining" the harem [which wouldn't be so shocking anyway, that's harem for everyone] when it doesn't happen, then there would be no reason to post that every day. adaption =/= source material =p I still don't see the "romantic feelings" there, sorry, i just don't. This is the same as back then when people said Kirito was flirting with Sinon while he was just teasing her, it's not the same thing, people just like to misunderstand and complain at anything. |
| Alot of people say shes better than Asuna. Alot of people are wrong |
Qans said: Alot of people say shes better than Asuna. Alot of people are right I concur. |
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| Asunas better looking, not suicidal, not as whiny if at all. Sinon almost got herself and Kirito killed because she couldnt shoot a dude in a video game. Theres no reason to like Sinon over her imo |
| never liked her, still not nearly as bad as Asuna |
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Reyxe said: you have a serious case of denial dont youDerpHole said: She became a part of his harem when her heart started going doki doki when she was trying (and failing miserably) to snipe him on the bridge. and then he swept her up close to her and she was blushing furiously and was obviously wet. yall niggas sayin she aint a part of his harem are foolin yoselves "yall niggas sayin" she is part of his harem when someone reading the LN says she isn't are "foolin yoselves" |
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hyperknees91 said: True, in the anime she will join his harem, because A-1 :PReyxe said: If people would stop complaining about her "joining" the harem [which wouldn't be so shocking anyway, that's harem for everyone] when it doesn't happen, then there would be no reason to post that every day. adaption =/= source material =p |
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DerpHole said: Reyxe said: you have a serious case of denial dont you"yall niggas sayin" she is part of his harem when someone reading the LN says she isn't are "foolin yoselves" Too much denial |
Byon-kun said: hyperknees91 said: True, in the anime she will join his harem, because A-1 :Padaption =/= source material =p to be honest, in light novels that scene in the cave was much more intimate. :) Even though, they never had relationships, just friends. Yup as I thought, people misunderstood entire episode.... |
Reyxe said: hyperknees91 said: adaption =/= source material =p I still don't see the "romantic feelings" there, sorry, i just don't. This is the same as back then when people said Kirito was flirting with Sinon while he was just teasing her, it's not the same thing, people just like to misunderstand and complain at anything. Well, Kirito and Asuna exhibited much less interaction and much less romantic vibes, and they still got abruptly together. So in regards to this series, yes its easy to see why people would think this (and no its no different in the Light Novels in this regard). In fact I would say it would have been more acceptable for Kirito and Sinon to get together after what we've been shown, then Kirito and Asuna. It wouldn't have even felt abrupt or random even because all the signs are there. Where as with Kirito and Asuna have absolutely no build up to them getting together. The only reason it's being made fun of so much, is because already so many girls have fallen in love with Kirito at this point. And it's just pointless because Kirito already has a girlfriend. |
hyperknees91Sep 11, 2014 11:26 AM
hyperknees91 said: Reyxe said: I still don't see the "romantic feelings" there, sorry, i just don't. This is the same as back then when people said Kirito was flirting with Sinon while he was just teasing her, it's not the same thing, people just like to misunderstand and complain at anything. Well, Kirito and Asuna exhibited much less interaction and much less romantic vibes, and they still got abruptly together. So in regards to this series, yes its easy to see why people would think this (and no its no different in the Light Novels in this regard). In fact I would say it would have been more acceptable for Kirito and Sinon to get together after what we've been shown, then Kirito and Asuna. It wouldn't have even felt abrupt or random even because all the signs are there. Where as with Kirito and Asuna have absolutely no build up to them getting together. The only reason it's being made fun of so much, is because already so many girls have fallen in love with Kirito at this point. And it's just pointless because Kirito already has a girlfriend. The only "romantic vibes" was last episode? cause if you talk about previous characters... then you don't know about romantic vibes at all, lol |
| Kirito should not be gettin pussy while lookin like one unrealistic 0/10 |
The only "romantic vibes" was last episode? cause if you talk about previous characters... then you don't know about romantic vibes at all, lol Well SAO is not the place I would go for well written romantic vibes no. But I can say that there was barely anything between Asuna and Kirito before they got together (there wasn't much interaction between the two in general). While with Sinon and Kirito, there has been quite a lot of interaction (mainly because every episode basically features them together, rather than Asuna and Kirito who were not always together in Aincrad and once they were they got into a relationship almost immediatly with no build up). Though there's no point in even talking about it really. Nothing is going to become of Sinon and Kirito, and she'll pretty much be forgotten about after this arc and then they'll be moving on to the next waifu of choice. |
hyperknees91 said: The only "romantic vibes" was last episode? cause if you talk about previous characters... then you don't know about romantic vibes at all, lol Well SAO is not the place I would go for well written romantic vibes no. But I can say that there was barely anything between Asuna and Kirito before they got together (there wasn't much interaction between the two in general). While with Sinon and Kirito, there has been quite a lot of interaction (mainly because every episode basically features them together, rather than Asuna and Kirito who were not always together in Aincrad and once they were they got into a relationship almost immediatly with no build up). Though there's no point in even talking about it really. Nothing is going to become of Sinon and Kirito, and she'll pretty much be forgotten about after this arc and then they'll be moving on to the next waifu of choice. If body signals could fuck then Kirito was smashing the shit out of Sinon |
| i think the writters of the show kinda run out of ideas so they decided to mess up with a character and add some drama to fill the episodes... even the background story of sinon is just not good... she killed a guy in self defence and everybody thinks she's a monster... come on that's lame.. i think this season could have been good were sinon a stronger character.. and we don't need so much of background story anyway.. take sao season 1 part 1.. there was no background story and the show was amazing... wish they had stick to that.. |
| The problem is that I came into this season expecting a strong and independent female lead. And then I get kicked in the nuts and was sadly disappointed. Sure, you can argue the whole trauma thing fucks with her but really, she's just making it hard on herself. She needs people to pity her and be all like, "I feel you, bro." She could have just been like well FUCK YOU CAUSE I JUST SAVED MY MOM FROM DEATH AND FROM THAT RAPIST LOOKIN MOTHA FUCKER O'ER DERE but nope she gon mope and be all scared and shit. Really, it's not like I don't like her. I was just disappointed. EXTREMELY disappointed. BUT NOT AS MUCH AS ASUNA THO LOL. No but really, she's now a healer like .__. no... |
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| No, now when she has an ass like. |
Hmmmm... And my response. |
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deanzel said: Hmmmm... And my response. |
genesic123 said: TheFeilong4 said: The problem is that I came into this season expecting a strong and independent female lead. And then I get kicked in the nuts and was sadly disappointed. Sure, you can argue the whole trauma thing fucks with her but really, she's just making it hard on herself. She needs people to pity her and be all like, "I feel you, bro." She could have just been like well FUCK YOU CAUSE I JUST SAVED MY MOM FROM DEATH AND FROM THAT RAPIST LOOKIN MOTHA FUCKER O'ER DERE but nope she gon mope and be all scared and shit. Really, it's not like I don't like her. I was just disappointed. EXTREMELY disappointed. BUT NOT AS MUCH AS ASUNA THO LOL. No but really, she's now a healer like .__. no... Oh come on, just cause she depends on jesus himself does not mean that she's completely weak. She does have fear but that doesn't mean that she did nothing. Most shoujos have even weaker, pathetic girls worth shaming. last time i checked sao was not a shoujo... |
Battery said: Not what the poster said nor meant.genesic123 said: Oh come on, just cause she depends on jesus himself does not mean that she's completely weak. She does have fear but that doesn't mean that she did nothing. Most shoujos have even weaker, pathetic girls worth shaming. last time i checked sao was not a shoujo... What he/she meant is, "even shoujo that are targetted at girls have weak and pathetic heroines, so it's okay for stuff 'targetted at boys' like SAO to get away with it" |
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| Personally, I find her character to be extremely poorly developed and her "hatred" towards Kirito completely irrational and ridiculous. My husband tells me she was written much better in the novel. It's just an opinion, but I wish that SAO had accurately portrayed a strong woman who dealt with the pain of her past as best as she could; not a spineless, pathetic, emotionally unstable shell of a character. I don't mean to undermine the fact that her childhood was traumatic and acknowledge people handle situations differently, but I think the writers had so much potential with Sinon and completely blew it. If someone has a break down: so what? That's not weakness. However if a character is consistently insulting all emotional logic (her inane professed detestment for the only person keeping her alive, her obvious attraction to him, her inability to desist her grating self pity and complaining) I find that poor writing. Also, if I have to see another prolonged shot of her butt I think I'm going to be sick, there's a difference between fan service and trying too hard. |
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