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Jun 21, 2014 7:46 PM

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I sense a lose flag next episode for Shizuku :(
Looks like she's from a wealthy family too wanting to hire Tatsuya and all :)

Broken ribs :O

What is with all the authority BS going on in this thread, magic exists and is utilized as a technology and all the gifted students are in school backed by the most powerful clans in the country and the best students are on par or better than adults.
Jun 21, 2014 7:49 PM

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Just an accident and some shooting competition.

Tatsuya has always been great at analyzing stuff.
Jun 21, 2014 7:49 PM
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wrenchbread said:
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It's called faking. His monologues paint a very clear picture: Miyuki's his only priority. I f he looks worried about something, you can guarantee it has to do with her. If he's kind to someone, you can be damn sure it benefits Miyuki in the long run. In this case, his kindness to some people is mostly because they're Miyuki's friends. Or they're helping him in some way that ends up helping Miyuki in the end. Honestly, It's a tad creepy. And sad, how his life revolves around her.


I dunno, considering how shitty his life is, shouldn't he be happy to make some friends? At least they treat him as human.

Here's my advice to Tatsuya: "Never pass up a good thing." (A cookie to anyone who gets this reference)

well the issue is he can't feel any of it. He has no strong emotions toward anything beside his sister. So they can as nice as they want and treat him way better he really won't care coz he just can't make himself care a lot about them. Ofc he care worries for their safty due to the fact that Miyuki cares and if they get hurt she would be upset but really if they were all killed he won't have cared simply because he can't.

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And that's where you're wrong. He doesn't give a shit about anyone except his imouto so unless they do something specifically to Miyuki, I doubt he'd go to the trouble of saving anyone. I am 98% sure that the only reason he helped with the bus incident is because Miyuki was on the bus.
Why did he bother helping Mari then?
Why did he also bother helping Mizuki back in episode 10 when Miki accidently attacked her with his spirits (even though he even stated later that she wouldn't have suffered any damage even if had done nothing)?

He helps coz Miyuki cares about them and if they get hurt/die than Miyuki would be upset thus he goes out of the way to help.
Jun 21, 2014 7:53 PM

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well the issue is he can't feel any of it. He has no strong emotions toward anything beside his sister. So they can as nice as they want and treat him way better he really won't care coz he just can't make himself care a lot about them. Ofc he care worries for their safty due to the fact that Miyuki cares and if they get hurt she would be upset but really if they were all killed he won't have cared simply because he can't.


You read the LNs, so you know the distinction. He can't feel strong emotions, but it doesn't mean he can't feel anything. Feeling bad doesn't mean he's bawling his eyes out. It just means he feels bad.
Jun 21, 2014 7:53 PM

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Sapewloth said:
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And that's where you're wrong. He doesn't give a shit about anyone except his imouto so unless they do something specifically to Miyuki, I doubt he'd go to the trouble of saving anyone. I am 98% sure that the only reason he helped with the bus incident is because Miyuki was on the bus.
Why did he bother helping Mari then?
Why did he also bother helping Mizuki back in episode 10 when Miki accidently attacked her with his spirits (even though he even stated later that she wouldn't have suffered any damage even if had done nothing)?


The answer to all those questions is Miyuki. Going any further will be spoiling. Do you still want to know?


wrenchbread said:
RexZShadow said:

well the issue is he can't feel any of it. He has no strong emotions toward anything beside his sister. So they can as nice as they want and treat him way better he really won't care coz he just can't make himself care a lot about them. Ofc he care worries for their safty due to the fact that Miyuki cares and if they get hurt she would be upset but really if they were all killed he won't have cared simply because he can't.


You read the LNs, so you know the distinction. He can't feel strong emotions, but it doesn't mean he can't feel anything. Feeling bad doesn't mean he's bawling his eyes out. It just means he feels bad.


He really doesn't feel bad about much. He actually feels bad for not feeling bad about some stuff
Jun 21, 2014 7:55 PM

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RexZShadow said:

He helps coz Miyuki cares about them and if they get hurt/die than Miyuki would be upset thus he goes out of the way to help.
He said Mizuki wouldn't have been hurt anyway, tho. And if Miyuki cared so much about Mari why couldn't she help her herself : she and Honoka (?) seemed willing to go to the fields before her bro stopped them.

Sure millie, spoil me.
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Jun 21, 2014 7:58 PM

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millie10468 said:
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Is he really that cold? Wouldn't that mean his kindness to the other students (like Shizuku this ep) is all fake? It's hard to believe that when he goes out of his way to smile and give pep talks to other students.


It's called faking. His monologues paint a very clear picture: Miyuki's his only priority. I f he looks worried about something, you can guarantee it has to do with her. If he's kind to someone, you can be damn sure it benefits Miyuki in the long run. In this case, his kindness to some people is mostly because they're Miyuki's friends. Or they're helping him in some way that ends up helping Miyuki in the end. Honestly, It's a tad creepy. And sad, how his life revolves around her.


Gotta disagree with ya there.
Jun 21, 2014 7:59 PM

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They should make it 30 mins episode .....it was boring that u couldn't get more action with magic explanation....people comparing it with other anime don't understand it cuz it's different from other animes .....u alright with op bosses in other anime but bitch about tatsuya being one ....as a character I rate him highly in the level of badass...and how he doesn't have big boss to fight ...he know very well that fighting in minor league won't lead to nothing .....as a main character he needs power to bring down world to its knees and he has that and he knows how he can't standout as thorn who might be cut out if he does not follow into it .....and always looking a way to make difference by force or by changing system ...just because he does not show emotions does not mean he is bland character as the show get running ..you would find out how he is free of his emotion to do whats needed .......in the end people are bored of the same anime types but when completely different thing happens they are alienated.........
Jun 21, 2014 8:03 PM

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An improvement to Tatsuya's character development would be him growing to accept the idea that people can be nice for absolutely nothing in return. That maybe he actually likes spending time with these people. He goes from this selfishly stoic person to someone who actually cares about other people not because it's for Miyuki's benefit, but maybe because deep inside he's not a bad person. That'll certainly be something to witness.
Jun 21, 2014 8:12 PM

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Yet another mediocre episode of The Irregular Problems of Pampered Rich Kids.

I keep hearing the latter half of this arc is when it "gets good" but I won't get my hopes up.
Jun 21, 2014 8:13 PM

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Gotta disagree with ya there.


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millie10468 said:
zalfuse said:

Gotta disagree with ya there.




True, its just in your prior post it sounds like he would not even feel bad for 1 min or so for an ally. I am sure he would get over anything negative happening to others than Miyuki rather quickly, but it would at least bother him.
Jun 21, 2014 8:20 PM

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True, its just in your prior post it sounds like he would not even feel bad for 1 min or so for an ally. I am sure he would get over anything negative happening to others than Miyuki rather quickly, but it would at least bother him.


Ahh, I see. Well, I guess a minute or so is better than nothing at all so I'll take that as character development for Tatsuya. Who would have thought?
Jun 21, 2014 8:43 PM
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Sapewloth said:
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He helps coz Miyuki cares about them and if they get hurt/die than Miyuki would be upset thus he goes out of the way to help.
He said Mizuki wouldn't have been hurt anyway, tho. And if Miyuki cared so much about Mari why couldn't she help her herself : she and Honoka (?) seemed willing to go to the fields before her bro stopped them.

Sure millie, spoil me.

Coz they can't do much to help, Tatsuya is trained for emergancy situation, other people would have just made it worse coz they don't know wtf they are doing, they are worried but even if they go they can't do anything but possibly get in the way.
Jun 21, 2014 8:52 PM

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I still don't know if I actually like this show or not.
Jun 21, 2014 9:06 PM

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Wow...they are like...showing about 5 sec of Shizuku doing speed shooting and 5 minutes about how she did it...
And the boys failed...offscreen. Goddamnit, anyone who isn't named Tatsuya are guaranteed to be Beta for the rest of their lives, isn't it ?
I mean, yeah, maybe their competition got rigged, but damn, one girl make through of it, but the guys...?
Jun 21, 2014 9:17 PM

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despite wanting the fights begin soon, the episode did not leave the desired
with the accident Miyuki was promoted to the first team, since it seems to me that something will happen during this competition
Tatsuya continues conquering the girls in his harem, and I found this episode Shizuku very cute
I'm finding this arc better than the previous
Jun 21, 2014 9:23 PM

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Okay episode, but it was kind of slow and too much of talking when it comes to the accident on what they saw. I was thinking to myself of why there are no securities in the competition. But eh I think Tatsuya has it covered. His CAD tuning is enhancing really well. Now he is getting popular with everyone and admired by his proficient skills.

Jun 21, 2014 9:26 PM

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The plot finally advances, with Tatsuya's OP engineering skills carrying the 1st school competitors through the sabotage menace.

Also, I started reading the ln recently, finishing the vol.1. Pretty good, helps a lot with understanding a bunch of stuff they don't explain in the anime.
Jun 21, 2014 9:31 PM
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despite wanting the fights begin soon, the episode did not leave the desired
with the accident Miyuki was promoted to the first team, since it seems to me that something will happen during this competition
Tatsuya continues conquering the girls in his harem, and I found this episode Shizuku very cute
I'm finding this arc better than the previous


Actually Shizuku later becomes a shipper... shipping Tatsuya with someone else...
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There sure is a lot of complaining about this anime. It must straddle a very careful line of annoying people but not quite enough to get them to just drop it.

Tatsuya is a NG+ character in a NG world. Sometimes, that's how stories are. Not all stories are about a MC who develops from naive to experienced; sometimes the MC is like a force of nature. Not every story is the hero's journey. Sometimes it is about how the world reacts to the MC, or how events are altered by their presence. Hagure Yuusha no Estetica had a similarly overpowered MC. Kaze no Stigma. Legend of Legendary Heroes. Rurouni Kenshin. Trigun. Heck, kick it old school with Fist of the North Star. It's okay to not like this type of story, but it is still a valid method of storytelling.

I haven't read the LNs. I also haven't had to; so far the story is self-contained. It has all made sense--note: not making sense is when something contradicts itself, not when it contradicts how you assume the world is supposed to be. There is always a wider world of information outside of the main narrative. An entire universe of it, in fact. Knowing aspects of the extended universe can affect your enjoyment of the story, but it isn't necessary. The difference between things that need explaining and things you want explained are that the former are necessary to maintain the story's internal logic (why is Tatsuya so powerful yet initially regarded so poorly? Oh, because his strengths don't lie in the measured criteria/are military secrets) while the latter are just things that would affect your enjoyment of the story, some of which may just not be explained yet (if the details go on take central importance in the story).

This is all long-winded and probably sounds a bit pretentious, but it's a reaction that's been building in me, thread after thread of people complaining. Yeah, it's not perfect. Most of what I wish was better would require a longer run-time, though, so as far as complaints go, "I want more" is hardly damning.
Jun 21, 2014 10:04 PM

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There sure is a lot of complaining about this anime. It must straddle a very careful line of annoying people but not quite enough to get them to just drop it.

Tatsuya is a NG+ character in a NG world. Sometimes, that's how stories are. Not all stories are about a MC who develops from naive to experienced; sometimes the MC is like a force of nature. Not every story is the hero's journey. Sometimes it is about how the world reacts to the MC, or how events are altered by their presence. Hagure Yuusha no Estetica had a similarly overpowered MC. Kaze no Stigma. Legend of Legendary Heroes. Rurouni Kenshin. Trigun. Heck, kick it old school with Fist of the North Star. It's okay to not like this type of story, but it is still a valid method of storytelling.

I haven't read the LNs. I also haven't had to; so far the story is self-contained. It has all made sense--note: not making sense is when something contradicts itself, not when it contradicts how you assume the world is supposed to be. There is always a wider world of information outside of the main narrative. An entire universe of it, in fact. Knowing aspects of the extended universe can affect your enjoyment of the story, but it isn't necessary. The difference between things that need explaining and things you want explained are that the former are necessary to maintain the story's internal logic (why is Tatsuya so powerful yet initially regarded so poorly? Oh, because his strengths don't lie in the measured criteria/are military secrets) while the latter are just things that would affect your enjoyment of the story, some of which may just not be explained yet (if the details go on take central importance in the story).

This is all long-winded and probably sounds a bit pretentious, but it's a reaction that's been building in me, thread after thread of people complaining. Yeah, it's not perfect. Most of what I wish was better would require a longer run-time, though, so as far as complaints go, "I want more" is hardly damning.


This is the first honest-to-goodness positive thing I've read about the anime so far. It must be doing its job right if there are people like you who get it so much without reading the source material.
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millie10468 said:
This is the first honest-to-goodness positive thing I've read about the anime so far. It must be doing its job right if there are people like you who get it so much without reading the source material.

It has still 7+ rating. Don't lose hope people!
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Jun 21, 2014 10:10 PM

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DawnJ said:
millie10468 said:
This is the first honest-to-goodness positive thing I've read about the anime so far. It must be doing its job right if there are people like you who get it so much without reading the source material.

It has still 7+ rating. Don't lose hope people!


That doesn't seem to mean much on MAL though
Jun 21, 2014 10:17 PM
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CNagy said:
There sure is a lot of complaining about this anime. It must straddle a very careful line of annoying people but not quite enough to get them to just drop it.

Tatsuya is a NG+ character in a NG world. Sometimes, that's how stories are. Not all stories are about a MC who develops from naive to experienced; sometimes the MC is like a force of nature. Not every story is the hero's journey. Sometimes it is about how the world reacts to the MC, or how events are altered by their presence. Hagure Yuusha no Estetica had a similarly overpowered MC. Kaze no Stigma. Legend of Legendary Heroes. Rurouni Kenshin. Trigun. Heck, kick it old school with Fist of the North Star. It's okay to not like this type of story, but it is still a valid method of storytelling.

I haven't read the LNs. I also haven't had to; so far the story is self-contained. It has all made sense--note: not making sense is when something contradicts itself, not when it contradicts how you assume the world is supposed to be. There is always a wider world of information outside of the main narrative. An entire universe of it, in fact. Knowing aspects of the extended universe can affect your enjoyment of the story, but it isn't necessary. The difference between things that need explaining and things you want explained are that the former are necessary to maintain the story's internal logic (why is Tatsuya so powerful yet initially regarded so poorly? Oh, because his strengths don't lie in the measured criteria/are military secrets) while the latter are just things that would affect your enjoyment of the story, some of which may just not be explained yet (if the details go on take central importance in the story).

This is all long-winded and probably sounds a bit pretentious, but it's a reaction that's been building in me, thread after thread of people complaining. Yeah, it's not perfect. Most of what I wish was better would require a longer run-time, though, so as far as complaints go, "I want more" is hardly damning.


It doesn't make sense to people because one they don't pay attention or two they don't care and just want to say something bad about it coz they didn't like it. When people say it doesn't make sensemost of the time its not because it doesn't make sense it does but not in the way they want it to be.
Jun 21, 2014 10:23 PM

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Gosh so much information
Saratoga the rookies ,who is doing this ugh !!
Jun 21, 2014 10:46 PM

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Such a boring episode. Almost 0 wincest action too.
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Did anyone else rofl when the council president said tatsuya noticed that girl's broken ribs "at a glance" and told the god damn paramedics what to do? LMFAO! Like wtf? Tatsuya is beyond ridiculous as a character.
Jun 21, 2014 11:05 PM
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Did anyone else rofl when the council president said tatsuya noticed that girl's broken ribs "at a glance" and told the god damn paramedics what to do? LMFAO! Like wtf? Tatsuya is beyond ridiculous as a character.

Did you pay attention at all? Its been stated has a speical magic for anlysing his surroudning so he uses that to see the injury.
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Did anyone else rofl when the council president said tatsuya noticed that girl's broken ribs "at a glance" and told the god damn paramedics what to do? LMFAO! Like wtf? Tatsuya is beyond ridiculous as a character.

Did you pay attention at all? Its been stated has a speical magic for anlysing his surroudning so he uses that to see the injury.


Like trained paramedics can't diagnose broken ribs without Tatsuya's guidance. Really now? He might as well have also said, "trust me, I'm a doctor."
Jun 21, 2014 11:22 PM

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Like trained paramedics can't diagnose broken ribs without Tatsuya's guidance. Really now? He might as well have also said, "trust me, I'm a doctor."




Something i found on reddit. Personally, i think it's canon, for real.
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RexZShadow said:
skudoops said:
Did anyone else rofl when the council president said tatsuya noticed that girl's broken ribs "at a glance" and told the god damn paramedics what to do? LMFAO! Like wtf? Tatsuya is beyond ridiculous as a character.

Did you pay attention at all? Its been stated has a speical magic for anlysing his surroudning so he uses that to see the injury.


When did they say he used that to see the injury? Either way that dude was telling the PARAMEDICS what to do for a medical situation.... lmfao.
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skudoops said:
RexZShadow said:

Did you pay attention at all? Its been stated has a speical magic for anlysing his surroudning so he uses that to see the injury.


When did they say he used that to see the injury? Either way that dude was telling the PARAMEDICS what to do for a medical situation.... lmfao.


its not like paramedics are the best of the best when handling injuries, that's doctors.

also, the paramedics probably don't have the magical ability to notice that a rib was broken, which is why Tatsuya needed to instruct them.
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its not like paramedics are the best of the best when handling injuries, that's doctors.

also, the paramedics probably don't have the magical ability to notice that a rib was broken, which is why Tatsuya needed to instruct them.


Depends on what kind of doctors. Paramedics are the highest level of EMT you can get meaning they are pretty damn well-versed in all sorts of injuries http://www.ems1.com/careers/articles/1058465-What-are-the-requirements-to-be-a-paramedic/

Oh and let me get you in on a little secret... we can diagnose broken ribs RIGHT NOW! Without magic! With current day paramedics! Wow!
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AzuStar said:
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When did they say he used that to see the injury? Either way that dude was telling the PARAMEDICS what to do for a medical situation.... lmfao.


its not like paramedics are the best of the best when handling injuries, that's doctors.

also, the paramedics probably don't have the magical ability to notice that a rib was broken, which is why Tatsuya needed to instruct them.


Paramedics are the ones who do initial diagnosis so that rooms and doctors are prepped before the patient even gets to the hospital, it's their job to see these things :| , also why would the paramedics at the MAGICAL SCHOOL COMPETITION not have any magical ability to see these things? I mean even the doctors magically repaired her ribs so.....
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Paramedics are the ones who do initial diagnosis so that rooms and doctors are prepped before the patient even gets to the hospital, it's their job to see these things :| , also why would the paramedics at the MAGICAL SCHOOL COMPETITION not have any magical ability to see these things? I mean even the doctors magically repaired her ribs so.....


No one needs magic to diagnose broken ribs.
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skudoops said:


Paramedics are the ones who do initial diagnosis so that rooms and doctors are prepped before the patient even gets to the hospital, it's their job to see these things :| , also why would the paramedics at the MAGICAL SCHOOL COMPETITION not have any magical ability to see these things? I mean even the doctors magically repaired her ribs so.....


No one needs magic to diagnose broken ribs.


I know, I was just stating that if there was a magical spell to see these things, why wouldn't these guys know it?
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Can't someone just go between the 2 blades or did I miss something?

This guy is such a ladies man and he doesn't even realize it :P

Interesting explanation of her speed shooting tactics.
Jun 21, 2014 11:56 PM

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I know, I was just stating that if there was a magical spell to see these things, why wouldn't these guys know it?


Too bad the spell Tatsuya has is exclusive to him. Others will have to make do with CT scans.
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wrenchbread said:
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I know, I was just stating that if there was a magical spell to see these things, why wouldn't these guys know it?


Too bad the spell Tatsuya has is exclusive to him. Others will have to make do with CT scans.


I don't understand why they need to include tatsuya and make him an expert at everything. It's just so stupid, most OP characters aren't as ridiculous as this dude.

Let's see he's a genius at engineering and in general, he has medical knowledge, he is a martial arts expert, war expert/veteran, a magic expert and a chick magnet to the point even his own sister acts like she wants his D. What else do they want to make this dude? I even left stuff out like him being able to read people's spells and shit.. like wtf?
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Episode 12, Madhouse and their lazy animation.

First, Leo's scene and then, Shizuku's scene. I mean, c'mon, clearly Madhouse can definitely do a shooting scene well. They managed to make bullets flying look somewhat cool in NGNL. In Mahouka, instead of Shizuku whom we're supposed to be focusing on--or her game--we get more screen time of the characters watching and that gray-haired girl's purple eyes. Seriously, Madhouse. Yeah, a different team's animating this but still, the standards should be the same.

Then again, I can't really blame them. They've probably given up animating this shitty story. Oh wait, it's not even a story. My bad.
Jun 22, 2014 12:57 AM

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This ep was purely dedicated to show Tatsuya being the badass he is. Seriously, it's almost absurd how perfect he is.
One glance at Mari and he concluded she had a broken rib? WTF, does this dude have X-ray vision?!?
Tatsuya hasn't even graduated yet and he's already been asked to be a personal engineer, let alone Shizuku's family, which I heard were insanely rich and famous...
He even freakin' made a new magic spell - "Active Air Mine," growing his fanbase w/out trying, and has made every girl that lays eyes on him or converses with him, blush excessively.
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Loving it for Tatsuya. Seriously, wish fulfillment plays a part, I think, in this
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Hmm a bit of everything in this episode which did make it confusing. It does seem that a third party is involved so we will probably find out soon.
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Holy for the love of me, stop being boring... The deduction about the accident was nice, the competitions are boring and the long explanation to a 10 sec shooting competition where you just pull the trigger is soooooo boring.
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I wonder if we will be able to see any male competing events.

Great episode!!!
Jun 22, 2014 3:39 AM

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Shizuku's competition was really nice but man, all that explaining is a bit...
Jun 22, 2014 3:54 AM

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This episode was better than the previous one.

I will always enjoy Shizuku's episode no matter what :D

The explanation for Active Air Mine was quite good, I was having trouble to understand it in the LN, but they made it simple and straightforward here, good job.
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Haha, i love how Tatsuya's so awesome at everything xD

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