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Jun 7, 2014 8:53 AM
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Well, that was some simple logic..

And welp, Erika spotted in a cosplay maid outfit. More of a built up episode again for the upcoming tournaments. Looks like the episode adapted the mid sections of volume 3 including chapter 4. I see they adapted the onsen part as well and the girls' talk. What's with that funky OST though L

Mikihiko actually did well dealing with this intruders though.
Jun 7, 2014 8:56 AM
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The sister and another guy who stopped the car. That first guy who went against the main guy feeling inferior and ashamed that she was able to make the right decision. Magic behind the car...

Party time, and speech about magic.

Wow, more weird than normal onsen scene for a while.

Some attack and the main guy happened to pass by.
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Jun 7, 2014 11:11 AM
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So the lesbian Onsen scene was in this ep?

Jun 7, 2014 11:31 AM
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The car attack, glad that Miyuki was a part of it. Tatsuya detected the magic!
Miyuki is in the centre of attention!!! Even with the girls xD
Wonder why Erika was forced to come and also about the entire list of the people able to see through the magic trick.
Organized terrorist attacks! Honoka looking at Miyuki!
Good episode, can't wait for the competition to start.
Jun 7, 2014 11:39 AM
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Erika and Miki was force to come due to their family, they are prestiges family but they didn't get in as competetor stheir family wants them to see where they should be blah blah blah.
Jun 7, 2014 11:51 AM
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So we thankfully get a look at some other characters this episode. I really thought this episode would be extremely boring but it wasn't. For those who were paying attention, there was important information given.

I'm getting really tired of the actiony bits being reduced to less than one half of a minute. Why's Madhouse always making it look like something more is supposed to happen? The accident scene could have all been put into the last episode instead of dividing up such a short scene into two episodes.

Kudou Retsu makes his appearance. Considered the patriarch of the current Magician system, his name has the number 9 in it, which makes it likely that he's from the 10MC. Not even likely, more like he's definitely from the 10MC if he's considered the father of modern magic.

As for the monologues, it's about time some were put back into the series. You'd think the characters barely think before they speak, if the anime's anything to go by.

All in all, another serviceable episode. If I wasn't a LN reader and I didn't know that the competition started next week, I'd be very disgruntled right now.
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Jun 7, 2014 12:01 PM
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Pretty good episode. The car attack scene felt a little too quick.

A lot of Hattori and Kirihara's conversation was left out :(

Erika was cute in the maid outfit <3

The onsen OST was pretty cool XD
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Good ep. The car incident was dealt with in a not bad way. At least they made it understandable why Mari told him to stop and how the process of stopping it went.

Loved Hattori and Kirihara's conversation :) Lol'd at the subs "Tatsuya's a BA" XD But really Kirihara really has some great respect for Tatsuya now, saying he's most likely killed and has killing intent and experience more than Navy old men hehe.

Erika was cute in her casual clothes and her maid uniform :3 Her talk about how Tatsuya's cold was nice ^^

The Kudou trick was nice. I wonder who the other 4 who felt it were. Kudou immediately figured out Tatsuya's the most BA of them XD

Masaki has no chance at all XD Miyuki didn't even know he was there XD

They were able to keep the fanservice even with the robes on :3 Miyuki making them not care for gender was lol XD

Miki and Tatsuya kicking ass at the end was nice.

Can't wait til the competition starts nxt :D
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After watching 10 EP I can conclude that this anime is pretty bad if you haven't read the LNs. There's less mystery and build up to events etc but if you have read them it's pretty good ya.
Rubbish fanservice is rubbish though
Jun 7, 2014 12:12 PM
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Pretty good episode. The car attack scene felt a little too quick

At the same time it took too long. They actually had full conversations while the car was coming at them.

But over all a better episode, after 9 we finally see Miyuki being something other than a brother loving doll. Nice development at the reception where she was wishing her brother noticed other people watching him more, while she herself is completely oblivious to other people watching her.

The onsen scene was good in that Miyuki from the start was supposed to have become friends with the other girls, so it was nice to finally get to see that in action. Ties into the above point. Miyuki finally became a character this episode; and likewise they finally lowered the incest flag (at the same time when Tatsuya didn't react to Erika in cosplay, it was nice to see Miyuki explain it with good humor (though still being vague as to the cause) instead of deploying her normal jealousy). Since she is the female lead, her finally coming into focus helps to make all the other female characters better.

Thought the banquet scene was a bit weak, I would have liked them to show at least one other person who wasn't tricked by it just to start the establishment of other characters being potential rivals of Tatsuya. Not ultimate rivals, but just something to hint at potential ballpark antagonism. I think it could have been better animated as well.

So a decent step in the right direction, not enough to confidently state that the corner has been turned, but better at characterization.
Jun 7, 2014 12:15 PM

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Well, this anime is pretty bad; on par with black bullet.
Jun 7, 2014 12:17 PM

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Takuan_Soho said:

Thought the banquet scene was a bit weak, I would have liked them to show at least one other person who wasn't tricked by it just to start the establishment of other characters being potential rivals of Tatsuya.


Some of us LN readers were also waiting to see who else wasn't tricked. It was never made clear who those four were so we were hoping the anime could tell us the people who are at least on the same wavelength as Tatsuya when it comes to seeing through weal sensory interference magic, but alas, we we were disappointed all over again.

Takuan_Soho said:
we finally see Miyuki being something other than a brother loving doll. Nice development at the reception where she was wishing her brother noticed other people watching him more, while she herself is completely oblivious to other people watching her.


See how much of a difference internal monologues make? I'll never understand whose bright idea it was not to include them consistently in the first place.
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Takuan_Soho said:
Ophis said:
Pretty good episode. The car attack scene felt a little too quick

At the same time it took too long. They actually had full conversations while the car was coming at them.

But over all a better episode, after 9 we finally see Miyuki being something other than a brother loving doll. Nice development at the reception where she was wishing her brother noticed other people watching him more, while she herself is completely oblivious to other people watching her.

The onsen scene was good in that Miyuki from the start was supposed to have become friends with the other girls, so it was nice to finally get to see that in action. Ties into the above point. Miyuki finally became a character this episode; and likewise they finally lowered the incest flag (at the same time when Tatsuya didn't react to Erika in cosplay, it was nice to see Miyuki explain it with good humor (though still being vague as to the cause) instead of deploying her normal jealousy). Since she is the female lead, her finally coming into focus helps to make all the other female characters better.

Thought the banquet scene was a bit weak, I would have liked them to show at least one other person who wasn't tricked by it just to start the establishment of other characters being potential rivals of Tatsuya. Not ultimate rivals, but just something to hint at potential ballpark antagonism. I think it could have been better animated as well.

So a decent step in the right direction, not enough to confidently state that the corner has been turned, but better at characterization.


Yeap agree with everything you said except usually time in anime is distorted compared to reality haha. 1 sec in real life is like 1 min in anime XD
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Wow, what is this, last 2 or so weeks mass obligatory hot spring/beach episodes on all series. And all going for the same lame boobs puns.
Tryhard to make Miyuki look great? Not working.
Score down to 6/10.
Jun 7, 2014 12:21 PM

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What's Suzaku doing in this anime?
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AlexGK said:
Wow, what is this, last 2 or so weeks mass obligatory hot spring/beach episodes on all series. And all going for the same lame boobs puns.
Tryhard to make Miyuki look great? Not working.
Score down to 6/10.

Summer is starting =X
Jun 7, 2014 12:39 PM

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Too much talking and not enough action.

I'll keep watching but it's getting annoying.

I just wanna see people getting their butts kicked.
Jun 7, 2014 12:48 PM

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This was a steamy episode
Jun 7, 2014 1:04 PM

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So anyway, great episodes but I wanna see more fighting!! cant wait for next episodes, each time i wait for one week for this episodes, it feels like watching it for only seconds tsk tsk..

uuuu and we get to see ze gurls at the onsen, I think, Miyuki goddes- like shown better here rather than her using her sch uniform, she looks like a stick to me, but atleaast now we can at least see so called miyuki goddess like beauty in half naked form muahahaha




poor Shizuku though, huhu, but shes still cute



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Too much talking and not enough action.

I'll keep watching but it's getting annoying.

I just wanna see people getting their butts kicked.


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Jun 7, 2014 1:13 PM
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I liked seeing the different uniforms of the different high schools but IMO I would have liked it better if the uniforms had actual variations in them instead of different colours
Jun 7, 2014 1:14 PM

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kind of slow ep i want more fight scenes but probably that why they added the "fanservice" scene with the girls
tatsuya always a badass, detecting the magic in the car and the trick from the old man
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no matter how many times i see masaki i just see him as kururugi suzaku he looks exactly like him

and mayumi reminds me of someone but i cant remember who
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LOL @ that "lengthy" discussion in the face of immediate danger.

I'd like some other character than Tatsuya to save the day for once. He's always meddling in some way or other.

Hoping that Masaki will be as strong as he's said to be and won't just get his ass handed to him by Tatsuya (as their rivalry is implied in the OP) after all that wait and maybe some incoming build-up.

IMO the fanservice was unnecessary in this one. The whole series feels quite slow as is due to the excessive amount of conversations and barely existent action thanks to Tatsuya ending every conflict in the blink of an eye, so I'd prefer them to move on to the supposedly good stuff instead.

Hopefully the tournament will finally start next epsiode, so we'll get some action and less talkking, which at the end of the day all just sums up to "Tatsuya is awesome".
Jun 7, 2014 1:18 PM

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Lol, nice Mizuki shaming this episode:

You have no idea what "risqué" actually means, Miyuki, do you?

I would agree that those clothes look pretty bad (they're goddam ugly to be honest), but there's not a single thing that could be considered even remotely daring in Mizuki's outfit: tbh it looks more like something that a middle schooler would wear than anything else. Miyuki is basically just bothered because Mizuki got big boobs. Whattabitch.

Otherwise, okay episode I guess. Waiting for the ass kicking to start.
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there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
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Pigeon_Senpai said:
Too much talking and not enough action.

I'll keep watching but it's getting annoying.

I just wanna see people getting their butts kicked.


Ah dude nobody said that it would be just mindless violence and ass-kicking.

Anyway the competitions should start from the next episode so you will get to see duels between Magicians.


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What's Suzaku doing in this anime?


Representing Third High School as their ACE.


millie10468 said:

Some of us LN readers were also waiting to see who else wasn't tricked. It was never made clear who those four were so we were hoping the anime could tell us the people who are at least on the same wavelength as Tatsuya when it comes to seeing through weal sensory interference magic, but alas, we we were disappointed all over again.

See how much of a difference internal monologues make? I'll never understand whose bright idea it was not to include them consistently in the first place.


Well we can guess who one or two of them were at least..........Mayumi and Juumonji most probably saw through the trick but who are the other my guess is as good as any. Mikihiko could be a distinct possibility if he was present at the scene. Well that was kind of a let down.......we were looking forward to seeing who other 4 people were.

As for monologues, they make the difference in any LN adaptations and help us understand the character better in most cases. Removing them was a bad idea and one of the biggest problems with the adaptation. Still i am glad they did this episode justice.

Jun 7, 2014 1:30 PM

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Awesome episode.Can't wait for next one.
Jun 7, 2014 1:33 PM

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I think it's not hard to guess who those other four were. Mayumi and Juumonji probably saw through it. The other two are most likely Masaki and Miyuki. If not Miyuki then maybe George.
Jun 7, 2014 1:34 PM

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Haha, Tatsuya is involved in everything

Jun 7, 2014 1:34 PM

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I would agree that those clothes look pretty bad (cause they're goddam ugly to be honest)

It's bad because it's bad.
Wat ._.

Anyway, this show seems to be picking up now, nice character interactions now instead of infodumps.
That was a job well done with the accident thing.
Suzaku Masaki seems to have a bit of an interest in Lelouch's Tatsuya's sister. Looks like he's an important person too (prince or something?) Waiting for Tatsuya vs. Masaki fight (unless OP theme lied to me) <-- no one even dares spoil if it happens or not, I will murder you in your sleep.
4/5

I quit this forum around episode 3 or so it's nice to see the discussion topic having less to no shitstorms (or maybe it's just because I'm early to the party...)
Jun 7, 2014 1:36 PM

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Hoping that Masaki will be as strong as he's said to be and won't just get his ass handed to him by Tatsuya (as their rivalry is implied in the OP) after all that wait and maybe some incoming build-up.


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Jun 7, 2014 1:37 PM
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This show has completely failed to live up to the hype and I am rarely one of those people that hate shows that are hyped (Elfen Lied is the other one I absolutely despise). Plot growth and all is fine but they make it so boring. I am fine with lack of action (the action has been sub-par so far anyway) but faces never change and a lot of the voice actors are monotone or annoying. The MC is so unbelievably boring and the sister is so annoying. I would prefer if this show focused on the side characters because they are at least decently interesting and not annoying/boring.
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Sapewloth said:

I would agree that those clothes look pretty bad (cause they're goddam ugly to be honest)

It's bad because it's bad.
Wat ._.

Oh shit, should have left ouf the "cause".

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there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
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Botato said:

It's bad because it's bad.
Wat ._.

Oh shit, should have left ouf the "cause".

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Well, at least it was a bit humorous xD
Jun 7, 2014 1:46 PM
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The MC is the Kristen Stewart of the anime world. His face never changes...
Jun 7, 2014 1:50 PM

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Another so-so episode with Tatsuya doing godly things. I think that things seem to be getting more interesting from here on out if the setup for the Nine Schools competition is finally in place. At least I can only hope... Thankfully, I can get my fill of fanservice and "Onii-sama's" each episode to keep me going.
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Of course you don't, Miyuki...

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Oh OKAY D:
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Kagami Taiga: “I don’t know about being the bad guy or whatever. It’s only in stories where titles like that decide the loser. This is our show. We’re the ones who are writing the script.”
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lol that ending seemed a little gay >.> XD
never had any interest in her brother LIES
goota love those bath scenes <3
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Of course you don't, Miyuki...

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Oh OKAY D:


xD I don't understand her either.
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An obligatory onsen episode... Sigh...

A couple of questions to people who read the novels:

1. Is it the adaptation's fault or are the books so... dry as well?
2. Is there gonna be action that lasts longer than a minute? Like, real intense interesting action?
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Wow that car accident scene was short lived, but at least no one at the bus is hurt. So its a suicide attack, I wonder why do this.

Basically a set up episode until the competition starts next episode. Erika's scenes were cute but some interesting conversation to Tatsuya.

Yeah lots talking and explanation, some were interesting, but sometimes a bit boring.

Tatsuya does it again on saving Miki then finishes those guys off.

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An obligatory onsen episode... Sigh...

A couple of questions to people who read the novels:

1. Is it the adaptation's fault or are the books so... dry as well?
2. Is there gonna be action that lasts longer than a minute? Like, real intense interesting action?


1. The writing is pretty dry there too. There's infinitely more explanations about things being spoonfed to you via Tatsuya's thoughts.
2. Like a long battle? Or seeing Tatsuya struggle? Probably not.
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It was never made clear who those four were so we were hoping the anime could tell us

I wouldn't count on that ever happening, I don't think that this animation has shown any desire to do any adapting such as that. LN Readers please correct me if I am wrong, but hasn't the scenario writing pretty much followed the book?

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See how much of a difference internal monologues make? I'll never understand whose bright idea it was not to include them consistently in the first place.

Oh absolutely, but even more so then having a monologue they really need to do it while they are showing action (or at least voice over). For such an explanation laden animation as this, that they don't do this is a grave fault. They are passing up the chance to kill two birds with one stone.

The car crash scene this episode is a good case, instead of having a rational conversation between characters which made it too obvious that this was the slowest car crash in animation history, a few inner dialogs would have disrupted the sense of time passing (because people are used to this technique in animation and are more willing to accept 1 minute of animation being really only 2-3 seconds in reality. But we all know how long talking takes).

More so than inner monologues, what I really want is some humor. Now I know that this is a serious show not a comedy, so I am not asking for comedy like the groping in onsen scene; but this show would really benefit from what Bakuman called "serious humor" (humor when you are not trying to be funny). I would bet good money that the novels have such humor (again, LN readers can correct me if I am wrong), the animation needs to transcribe more of it.
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@Takuan_Soho:

Yes there are such scenes and believe it or not Tatsuya is in the center of most of those scenes. But Madhouse tried to go for a serious approach which was another bad move (they cut out some of those scenes or shortened them). But they did insert a few for example Erika and Tatsuya picking on Kirihara scene. You probably should give the first 2 novels a try or try the manga at the very least to get an idea.

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2. Like a long battle? Or seeing Tatsuya struggle? Probably not.


I'm okay with Tatsuya not struggling (lesser of two evils) but if all battles are gonna be this short and scarce then... I'll let Kevin Sorbo to express my feelings https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9gC1GiSDDA


So far this show doesn't really live up to the hype that I saw before it started airing. Right now out of all the action shows that I'm watching this season Mahouka is pretty low (Chaika being on top, followed closely by Loli Bullet with Captain Arse being third. Stardust Crusaders would probably be waaay there on top if I watched it but frag censorship)
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Of course you don't, Miyuki...

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Oh OKAY D:


xD I don't understand her either.


The explanation is that she knew how Tatsuya would respond, so she was just having a little fun knowing that he wouldn't take it the wrong way, sort of like how at the diner she trolled glasses girl about pretending that they actually were a couple.

The animation has pointed this out a couple of times, but they have buried it under so much breathless brother loving that far from making things ambiguous (which is what I think they were aiming), they made it seem too obvious that she is in love with Tatsuya. In short they over did the "she is serious" at the expense of "she has a sense of humor about it" and this has created confusion not curiosity.
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BeatzMe said:

Hoping that Masaki will be as strong as he's said to be and won't just get his ass handed to him by Tatsuya (as their rivalry is implied in the OP) after all that wait and maybe some incoming build-up.


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WhisperBit said:
An obligatory onsen episode... Sigh...

A couple of questions to people who read the novels:

1. Is it the adaptation's fault or are the books so... dry as well?
2. Is there gonna be action that lasts longer than a minute? Like, real intense interesting action?


1. The writing is pretty dry there too. There's infinitely more explanations about things being spoonfed to you via Tatsuya's thoughts.
2. Like a long battle? Or seeing Tatsuya struggle? Probably not.


1. That's pretty much subjective........it was enjoyable for us fans even with the long explanations.
2. Actually you will.....the term "long" is relative but hopefully the tournament fights aren't going to be that short.

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1. That's pretty much subjective........it was enjoyable for us fans even with the long explanations.
2. Actually you will.....the term "long" is relative but hopefully the tournament fights aren't going to be that short.


For me I didn't find the light novel boring or dry I absolute loved it and the explanations. But that's just me hell in the light novel the fight scenes were pretty good.

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xD I don't understand her either.


The explanation is that she knew how Tatsuya would respond, so she was just having a little fun knowing that he wouldn't take it the wrong way, sort of like how at the diner she trolled glasses girl about pretending that they actually were a couple.

The animation has pointed this out a couple of times, but they have buried it under so much breathless brother loving that far from making things ambiguous (which is what I think they were aiming), they made it seem too obvious that she is in love with Tatsuya. In short they over did the "she is serious" at the expense of "she has a sense of humor about it" and this has created confusion not curiosity.


Ah, I see. Thanks for clearing that up. ^^
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1. That's pretty much subjective........it was enjoyable for us fans even with the long explanations.
2. Actually you will.....the term "long" is relative but hopefully the tournament fights aren't going to be that short.


Dry writing is a real thing. It means the prose, explanations, or whatever isn't particularly engaging; it is without pathos. It's like reading the news.
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