Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei Episode 7 Discussion

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Kazataro said:
The MC is so Bland and Boring does he even have feelings?

May 18, 2014 1:31 PM

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This is one of the few anime I've seen that I want to turn into incest, ahahah.

Great fight animation!

May 18, 2014 1:31 PM

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RexZShadow said:

Kazataro said:
The MC is so Bland and Boring does he even have feelings?

Correction:

Seriously being cool and composed is bland now?

May 18, 2014 1:35 PM

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Dragon_Slayer_X said:

RexZShadow said:

Kazataro said:
The MC is so Bland and Boring does he even have feelings?

Correction:

Seriously being cool and composed is bland now?

You got to over react to everything and be a complete fail infront of any female or your bland man =X

May 18, 2014 1:47 PM

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Kazataro said:
The MC is so Bland and Boring does he even have feelings?

May 18, 2014 2:02 PM

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Dragon_Slayer_X said:
Seriously being cool and composed is bland now?

Not necessarily, but it is hard to say that the way he has been depicted hasn't been bland. It also hasn't helped that this animation really haven't dedicated any time to make the other characters more noticeable which would have been useful in demonstrating that there is something more to him acting this way than just bad writing. Look how they have depicted Miyuki to date; another extremely "bland" character to date. Erika is about the best they have done, but she only seems well done in comparison to how bad everyone else been done.

Edit:Sorry about that, it had been explained so many times on these threads unspoiled, that I thought it common knowledge.

But spoiled it, for anyone new.

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May 18, 2014 2:28 PM

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Hey, @Takuan_Soho, u might wanna add a spoiler tag there or edit ur comment bcos

Edit:
Oops, made a mistake, now i remember

And even if u think it may be revealed soon for whatever reason (which is just an assumption, seriously, they might decide to even reveal it much later) anime only watchers have not been informed, so, technically, i think thats a spoiler

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May 18, 2014 2:28 PM

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Takuan_Soho said:

Correct me if I am wrong, but through six episodes I can't recall this animation explaining that he

, I only remember the fans telling us this; but for first time viewers isn't that a horrible thing to overlook? I mean why would anyone think how Tatsuya and Miyuki have been shown isn't the result of bad writing and as if so should anyone expect it to get better?

That's because

There's a reason why we, the LN readers, always put the spoiler tags when explaining about that. And again, my friend, you spoiled that blatantly to the non-LN readers...

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May 18, 2014 2:33 PM

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Takuan_Soho said:

Dragon_Slayer_X said:
Seriously being cool and composed is bland now?

Not necessarily, but it is hard to say that the way he has been depicted hasn't been bland. It also hasn't helped that this animation really haven't dedicated any time to make the other characters more noticeable which would have been useful in demonstrating that there is something more to him acting this way than just bad writing. Look how they have depicted Miyuki to date; another extremely "bland" character to date. Erika is about the best they have done, but she only seems well done in comparison to how bad everyone else been done.

Correct me if I am wrong, but through six episodes I can't recall this animation explaining that he has had him emotions removed, I only remember the fans telling us this; but for first time viewers isn't that a horrible thing to overlook? I mean why would anyone think how Tatsuya and Miyuki have been shown isn't the result of bad writing and as if so should anyone expect it to get better?

Because it was shown in the volume 3 and in anime standards it's going to be shown in about 1-2 episodes(no beach episode btw like you predicted)? I don't know what's the problem here. It keeps the suspense and i don't really care for people with wrong expectations. People who are impatient or hate the show just because it's popular are going to hate it regardless and those who stick to it patiently are going to be rewarded with interesting revelations.

Tatsuya is portrayed as a cool and composed character, who doesn't blush every time a female comes into his view, who doesn't get over sentimental in every situation, who doesn't get angry no matter how much he is ridiculed............a person capable of keeping his calm in most situations and shows his emotions less than usual. The story behind these type of characters are either shown early or a little later and it's the latter in this case.

Yes the anime removed a few monologues, something i complained from the start. But it progressively got better in my opinion and i believe it will get even better. Erika and Leo's character now feels okay, Mayumi will get her screen time in the next arc, Mari was portrayed pretty well. Just because it doesn't meet your expectations or predictions doesn't mean it has to be bad writing all the time. The story is slow but all the information are given in time as the story goes on.

I am really getting sick of "Bad writing this", "Bad writing that", "Count of onii-sama", "Gary Stu" complains. Maybe the anime isn't that great in your eyes, it is an introduction arc after all but there are still some things to think about than complaining all the time. Like what their family situation is, what is this "Guardian" status, what are these 10MC that everyone keeps bringing up etc........but hey something called "patience" is omitted from anime watchers these days. Most people act like they have to be spoon feed everything about the story and characters from episode 1............or else it's bad writing.

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May 18, 2014 2:42 PM

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My thoughts on the show so far...

I'm kinda disappointed. I had higher hopes for this episode.

The showdown between Blanche and the Shiba siblings was very bland, tbh... was expecting more suspense, or at least a tenser atmosphere, but imo, that was a pretty lame fight... I had hoped animation and action in this episode would b more exciting too, but the best action scene was just Kirihara knocking out some Blanche members (which wasnt in the LN xp)

Sigh... overall, this first arc was very mediocre imo...

On a more positive note, the after credits scene with Masaki looked rather promising. I dunno if my optimism is affecting my judgment, but the script writing sounded noticeably more intelligent and interesting in that scene.

Anyways, I have a feeling the nine schools competition arc will be much better based on thatone scene. So, looking forward to that. (Praying hard for that!)

Btw, I thought George was a girl when I first heard his voice, and his character design is girlier than I envisioned -_-...

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May 18, 2014 3:10 PM

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You know, I am cool with waiting for this show to get better as the fans have been saying, but what I find humorous is when certain fans project the weaknesses of this animation onto the viewers.

Dragon_Slayer_X said:
I don't know what's the problem here. It keeps the suspense

What suspense? What in these 7 episodes has "built suspense"? If anything this show has been anticlimactic. "Internationally backed terrorist organization" that they spent 4 episodes building up? Crushed by four students in 3 minutes. Deep seated prejudice among the student body first 3 episodes? Crushed with one speech.

Dragon_Slayer_X said:
People who are impatient or hate the show just because it's popular are going to hate it regardless and those who stick to it patiently are going to be rewarded with interesting revelations.

Impatient? At 7 episodes? We are now over 2.5 hours of viewing time and what exactly have we to show for it? Calling for patience now is ridiculous.

Dragon_Slayer_X said:
Tatsuya is portrayed as a cool and composed character, who doesn't blush every time a female comes into his view, who doesn't get over sentimental in every situation, who doesn't get angry no matter how much he is ridiculed

Where was he ridiculed? The one time someone was dishing him (the VP), Tatsuya took him out in a heartbeat.

Dragon_Slayer_X said:
I am really getting sick of "Bad writing this", "Bad writing that", "Count of onii-sama", "Gary Stu" complains.

When a show sets itself up for such complaints you can't blame the person criticizing the show.

This show is averaging an "oni-sama" once every 100 seconds, why wouldn't people think that is funny? If you don't want "Gary Stu" complaints, then don't have the hero wax every villain in under 22 seconds. Both are obvious signs of "bad writing", so why shouldn't viewers expect this to be bad writing?

Because "guardian" hasn't been explained as anything special, same with their family "stituation", in the first episode it was made to appear that Tatsuya and his father were on the outs over his joining the company, as for their being clans. That isn't "suspenseful", rather it is cliched.

Let's take Naruto as a simple counter exampled. In 7 episodes we were introduced to multiple characters, had their powers explained, had them undergo training and being tested, had the worldview explained, and had their first encounter with a superior opponent (who actually ends up being a worthy opponent). We knew What the Clans were, How they were structured, and Why they were important. Just mentioning "10 clans" is not interesting, knowing the how, what, and whys is what makes a show interesting.

Again, I am not knocking this series as a whole, I am willing to trust the opinions of those who say it gets better, but please, dear god, please don't try to say how things to date have been "wonderful" and the viewers "just don't get it", because there hasn't been anything "to get" yet.

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May 18, 2014 3:29 PM

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Yawn, can I wake up yet?

May 18, 2014 3:34 PM

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I think you pretty much narrowed down what we as an audience could (and maybe should) have drawn from Mibu's confession, had the anime (and the LN if the confession was the same) done a better job at conveying those feelings through her words.
But then again, given the vibes Mahouka has been giving off since the beginning, I do believe the point I made about the focus on performance, skill and status still stands (the dialogue between Miyuki and Tatsu that followed strenghtened my opinion even more, with the whole "I will follow you even if you reach for the Moon [or whatever]" - "No, I'll be the one who's gonna have trouble keeping up with you" etc.).

inb4 the real subtext of the dialogue was the siblings never leaving each other's side

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GuusWayne said:
there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.

May 18, 2014 5:46 PM

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Yeah Tatsuya was epic!!1 Glad Mibu-senpai was ok.

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May 18, 2014 5:50 PM

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An ok episode. Hopefully the next arc goes well now that we are passed the introduction arc. I am really missing Tatsuya's internal dialogue, and that may be what kills the show for me if the competition arc isn't good enough to offset it.

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Takuan_Soho said:
You know, I am cool with waiting for this show to get better as the fans have been saying, but what I find humorous is when certain fans project the weaknesses of this animation onto the viewers.

You do the same thing with No Game No Life in it's threads. Not that there aren't a lot of fair points as to why the first arc of this show is mediocre because it's kind of coming in below my expectations as well on a number of fronts but just saying this is exactly what you do in those threads so like I said there you kind of get what you give. IMO both shows kind of have similar problems with overpowered male leads that the writing bends over backwards for thus eliminating an element of tension from the confrontations, but I feel that Tatsuya is at least a little more interesting and determined a character with the better potential for growth and that the show does a much better job of why he's so powerful within the rules of it's framework at least so far. That Mizuki girl basically figured it out.

Anyway I can only hope the show continues to pick up on the intrigue level in the next arc. There have been some hints that there's a lot more going on in the story than what we've seen and that it's kind of one of those slow build ones, but I do feel like things could have moved a fair bit faster here or maybe just used some more fleshing out. I just keep feeling that there's more to this show than what we've been getting and kind of hope that's satisfied in the long run.

I think the lesson here is that school stuff in anime is almost always boring. It wouldn't surprise me if the more the show gets away from that if possible the more interesting it becomes. If not then...welp....

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This show is kinda lame because of the ridiculously one sided fights. I was expecting slightly more glorious battles, even if he wins them by being OP. As it is right now this dude just owns face effortlessly and it makes everything so ZZZ

May 18, 2014 6:38 PM

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Yawn, can I wake up yet?

No go back to sleep and keep making them pancakes!

May 18, 2014 6:44 PM

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You do the same thing with No Game No Life in it's threads. Not that there aren't a lot of fair points as to why the first arc of this show is mediocre because it's kind of coming in below my expectations as well on a number of fronts but just saying this is exactly what you do in those threads so like I said there you kind of get what you give.

Ah, I was wondering if your bitterness would show up. Nice to see I wasn't disappointed.

No, I do no such thing. On NGNL I use the episode itself, the dialog, or obvious tropes from the animation to explain why the show by itself makes sense. All my theories are based solely on what I have seen.

If Mahouka's animation provided the same amount of information I would likewise be defending it. But that is the problem, the animation hasn't. I can watch NGNL without reading the novels, I only have to pay attention to the detail and use a bit of my imagination. Mahouka is not there yet. The show itself is highly deficient, in order to appreciate it one HAS to read the novels (the same was true of SAO).

You have to understand is that I come to shows with no preconceptions. I do not watch shows that I have read, I likewise do not pay attention to any "hype". I watch everything, and then start to winnow out shows that I either don't like (many genres or tropes) or just think are bad. I would have dropped this show (and stopped commentating on it) 4 episodes ago if I didn't have faith in the fans who admitted that the enrollment arc sucked, but it gets better after it. That is the only reason I am still watching and commentating.

You may not have noticed but in almost every post I have clearly differentiated between the novels and the animation. Having not READ the novels I cannot comment on them, but having SEEN the animation I can point out its myriad faults. That I know the difference is what separates me from people, excuse me for pointing this out, like you.

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lol magic Suzaku

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Takuan_Soho said:

Kaioshin_Sama said:
You do the same thing with No Game No Life in it's threads. Not that there aren't a lot of fair points as to why the first arc of this show is mediocre because it's kind of coming in below my expectations as well on a number of fronts but just saying this is exactly what you do in those threads so like I said there you kind of get what you give.

Ah, I was wondering if your bitterness would show up. Nice to see I wasn't disappointed.

No, I do no such thing. On NGNL I use the episode itself, the dialog, or obvious tropes from the animation to explain why the show by itself makes sense. All my theories are based solely on what I have seen.

If Mahouka's animation provided the same amount of information I would likewise be defending it. But that is the problem, the animation hasn't. I can watch NGNL without reading the novels, I only have to pay attention to the detail and use a bit of my imagination. Mahouka is not there yet. The show itself is highly deficient, in order to appreciate it one HAS to read the novels (the same was true of SAO).

You have to understand is that I come to shows with no preconceptions. I do not watch shows that I have read, I likewise do not pay attention to any "hype". I watch everything, and then start to winnow out shows that I either don't like (many genres or tropes) or just think are bad. I would have dropped this show (and stopped commentating on it) 4 episodes ago if I didn't have faith in the fans who admitted that the enrollment arc sucked, but it gets better after it. That is the only reason I am still watching and commentating.

You may not have noticed but in almost every post I have clearly differentiated between the novels and the animation. Having not READ the novels I cannot comment on them, but having SEEN the animation I can point out its myriad faults. That I know the difference is what separates me from people, excuse me for pointing this out, like you.

Looks like we have a lot more in common than we thought on all points. To me it just seems like NGNL is more simplistic and has less going on so is easier to translate to screen while this show they have to pick and choose what to show and it's hurting it's exposition. Hope the thing about the enrollment arc sucking is kind of true too. This arc sort of feels like an extended premiere somehow where they introduce each of the principal cast members and give them something to do but nothing too serious cause the real plot hasn't started yet only instead of 1 or 2 episodes it's stretched out over 7. It feels like one of those long stories like Index or Horizon on The Middle of Nowhere.

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May 18, 2014 6:53 PM

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I'm wonder when a ep discussion thread will finally be about the ep rather than the same thing being repeated since the ep 1 discussion. Anyone bets on when?

May 18, 2014 6:58 PM

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Kaioshin_Sama said:
Looks like we have a lot more in common than we thought on all points.

To be honest, if you got rid of your need to be both superior and a martyr, I would rank you as one of the most insightful posters on MAL. One of the reasons I reply to you is because I know you are capable of more. Or to put it in other words, I don't reply to idiots or boring people; I reply to you, therefore I think you do have interesting things to say.

This may seem like I am insulting you, but please let me assure you that I am being honest.

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RexZShadow said:
I'm wonder when a ep discussion thread will finally be about the ep rather than the same thing being repeated since the ep 1 discussion. Anyone bets on when?

About when the episode stops being a chore to watch and becomes a pleasure to watch; from what the fans say this should start next episode IF madhouse doesn't screw things up and does a beach episode!

May 18, 2014 7:12 PM

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Wonder why lots of people so hype up with this series, I dont see the credit and so generic..
Finally this boring arc is done, and Suzaku appear..
These fantard makes me hate this series, seriously..

May 18, 2014 7:43 PM

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Takuan_Soho said:

RexZShadow said:
I'm wonder when a ep discussion thread will finally be about the ep rather than the same thing being repeated since the ep 1 discussion. Anyone bets on when?

About when the episode stops being a chore to watch and becomes a pleasure to watch; from what the fans say this should start next episode IF madhouse doesn't screw things up and does a beach episode!

Then why you still watching? I'm watching coz I find it enjoyable, if you all finding it to be such a chore why keep watching? Why not wait till its done watch it in one go or something rather than seem to torture yourself weekly with this.

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RexZShadow said:
Then why you still watching? I'm watching coz I find it enjoyable, if you all finding it to be such a chore why keep watching? Why not wait till its done watch it in one go or something rather than seem to torture yourself weekly with this.

Because the fans of the LN admitted that first arc sucked but that it would get better from here on out.

I actually do listen to what other people say, and I appreciate when fans can admit that certain episodes are substandard. Their honesty is what gives me hope that things will change.

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RexZShadow said:
I'm wonder when a ep discussion thread will finally be about the ep rather than the same thing being repeated since the ep 1 discussion. Anyone bets on when?

I don't think it's so much the ciriticism in each discussion thread being off topic than each episode presenting the same problems (like Miyuki still being annoying, the discrimination bsnss still being handled badly, Mibu still being an idiot, actions scenes still being too short, magic jargon still being off-putting, Tatsu still being boring an so on). When said problems are not only reccuring ones but might also seriously hinder your enjoyment of the show, it's no wonder they're being brought up again an again. The point of a discussion thread is essentially sharing your opinions/predictions about the episode after all, not making a recap of them.

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GuusWayne said:
there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.

May 18, 2014 8:48 PM

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Takuan_Soho said:

RexZShadow said:
Then why you still watching? I'm watching coz I find it enjoyable, if you all finding it to be such a chore why keep watching? Why not wait till its done watch it in one go or something rather than seem to torture yourself weekly with this.

Because the fans of the LN admitted that first arc sucked but that it would get better from here on out.

I actually do listen to what other people say, and I appreciate when fans can admit that certain episodes are substandard. Their honesty is what gives me hope that things will change.

I, personally, appreciate those sentiments Takuan san. It's a bit sad for the fans (such as me) too. We understand that Mahouka is a real pain to adapt since it relies mostly on long info dumps for exposition. Still, as fans of the novel, we still wish for this to turn out better in the long run.

It really is a slow starter but once it goes out of the school setting you'll get to see it's a lot more than what was initially presented. I actually dropped the novels and when I had nothing to do one time I went over the rest of the volumes again and was quite pleasantly surprised. Of course this won't necessarily be true for the adaptation (so many things could go wrong) but we'll cross that bridge when we get there.

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This was suppose to be one of the big animes this season, and now after finishing the first arc its safe to say its still boring. The action scenes are either just walking and everyone else falling over themselves or so fast it ends before it really even started. At least the pacing was very similiar to the novels but that said, I wish they would of sped it up. Also, Miyuki is succesfully going down as one my most hated characters.

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Shakespeare.

May 18, 2014 9:13 PM

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I really didn't dig the ending to this arc ... it started strong but turned into a confusing mess with who was being mind controlled and for what reasons. Hopefully the next arc will turn out better.

At least there was a fair amount of action, one-sided as it was. I wanna see someone who can actually challenge our hero, so far he's just been demolishing anyone who dares step in his path.

Enjoyed the arm-chop and the fountain of blood, lol, though in reality if he lost that much blood he'd have passed it if not have died outright. Speaking of, did Maya accidentally murder that guy she froze? It seemed to be implied but they didn't really say either way. Usually for one of these teenage protagonists to kill someone is a pretty big day, but Maya seems kinda psycho to begin with ...

Erika is such a bitch :P

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I, personally, appreciate those sentiments Takuan san. It's a bit sad for the fans (such as me) too. We understand that Mahouka is a real pain to adapt since it relies mostly on long info dumps for exposition. Still, as fans of the novel, we still wish for this to turn out better in the long run.

Thank you. I honestly don't think this is a pain to adapt, after about 4 episodes I read the first 3 chapters and realized how easy this adaption could be so much better. That is my real fear for the rest of this cour and next, not that the story will fail, but that the adaption will fail the story. This is what I thought with SAO and this is what I fear for this series.

And as I said at last week's preview, I will be the first to admit I was wrong. Not only that, but I want so much to be wrong. I would be far more happy praising or at least justifying a show than to be attacking it. Being negative isn't my style, I normally drop before that point, only shows with potential can get me to continue to watch. But of course wasted potential is the most disappointing thing out there.

May 18, 2014 9:14 PM

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I would prefer people who find it hard to watch now to wait until the whole thing to come out and watch it in one go as it makes much more sense than to stuggle for weeks 1 ep at a time.

May 18, 2014 9:28 PM

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Finally we get to see the main rival.
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May 18, 2014 9:30 PM

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I somehow didnt expect blood from this show so watching that dude get his arm hacked off was a HUGE shocker! And Miyuki sure is one scary airhead when it comes to magic...

May 18, 2014 9:41 PM

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god this shit is so boring.
Even the action was mediocre. These steamroll fights ugh.......
Well at least the orientation is over? ┐(￣ー￣)┌

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Takuan_Soho said:

What suspense? What in these 7 episodes has "built suspense"? If anything this show has been anticlimactic. "Internationally backed terrorist organization" that they spent 4 episodes building up? Crushed by four students in 3 minutes. Deep seated prejudice among the student body first 3 episodes? Crushed with one speech.

Not crushed but it made them realize they were also thinking less of themselves and that kind of mentality will never let them move forward. The discrimination didn't end there but the situation has started to change a bit as you will see in future episodes. Not all course 1 student discriminate.

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Impatient? At 7 episodes? We are now over 2.5 hours of viewing time and what exactly have we to show for it? Calling for patience now is ridiculous.

Naruto was quite boring in the first few episodes. Same can be said for Stein's Gate. I love those 2 anime but they were boring at the beginning and i am not comparing them with Mahouka. Yes it has a slow start because the author relied on character introduction, magic explanations, world build-up and at the same time kept us in suspense about who actually is the character called "Shiba Tatsuya".

It takes some effort to turn that into anime but Madhouse could have done a better job. They turned the fanservice scenes (Erika's scene had a hint about her personality, Haruka's scene had Haruka trying to gain information from Tatsuya by making him uncomfortable, Miyuki's scenes..........nevermind) into pointless fanservice only scenes. Another episode and some monologues for characters could have turned the opinion much better it is now. That much i agree.

Takuan_Soho said:

Where was he ridiculed? The one time someone was dishing him (the VP), Tatsuya took him out in a heartbeat.

Stop twisting my words man. He was ridiculed from the start.........people calling him a weed and he doesn't belong by his sister's side. He didn't react when the VP ridiculed him but when her sister's judgement was ridiculed. Same goes for the Kenjutsu club members. They insulted and attacked him but he only dodged and cancelled their magic. So yes he kept his cool in most situations rather than being too emotional.

Takuan_Soho said:

This show is averaging an "oni-sama" once every 100 seconds, why wouldn't people think that is funny? If you don't want "Gary Stu" complaints, then don't have the hero wax every villain in under 22 seconds. Both are obvious signs of "bad writing", so why shouldn't viewers expect this to be bad writing?

You know how the word "Gary Stu" is used these days right? Simply for "OP characters" or "OP characters one dislikes". Hey may be there is a reason behind why or how he is so powerful. They don't always spoon feed the reason to you from episode 1. If the character was weak and struggled then people would be calling him a weakling or bland all the same.

Tatsuya and the circumstances regarding him are like a black box and the key to parts of the box are revealed little by little. You can either get annoyed and drop the box or wait for the key and get the reward. Your choice man...........

Takuan_Soho said:

Because "guardian" hasn't been explained as anything special, same with their family "situation", in the first episode it was made to appear that Tatsuya and his father were on the outs over his joining the company, as for their being clans. That isn't "suspenseful", rather it is cliched.

"Cliched" is another overused term and you missed the point. If people aren't so busy counting "Onii-sama" or complain about every single second of the show, then they would find things interesting. Rather than being explained as anything special, it indicates that Tatsuya and Miyuki relationship is not a normal one (don't start the incest train here please). There are circumstances regarding their situation.

About their parent situation, have you wondered why they changed their names and living alone even though they are from one of the powerful clans? The anime did cut out a part about Tatsuya saying that his father made him work like a servant so that's the anime's fault. But the clans do keep people interested as it has a prominent role throughout the story. I believe they will give some info regarding them in the upcoming episodes.

Takuan_Soho said:

Again, I am not knocking this series as a whole, I am willing to trust the opinions of those who say it gets better, but please, dear god, please don't try to say how things to date have been "wonderful" and the viewers "just don't get it", because there hasn't been anything "to get" yet.

Again don't twist my words..........did i say the anime is perfect? The novel is the writer's first work and so there are a few flaws but he got better as the series went on and even if there were some information unexplained or didn't make sense, it was covered in later novels. The anime has it's problems but it did get better in the recent episodes. The thing is people would have enjoyed it if they weren't so busy complaining about every second of it 24/7.........

Now that Enrollment is over, 9SC is going to start and people will get a lot of info dump regarding characters and other stuff (hopefully unless Madhouse does something stupid). So people still complaining about the little explanations given shouldn't watch it as this series is not about mindless violence all the time and "Suzaku" isn't going to blow people up in a well-known competition.

Dragon_Slayer_XMay 18, 2014 9:55 PM

May 18, 2014 9:59 PM

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And now the fun begins :) Hooray!

"May those who accept their fate be granted happiness."

"May those who defy their fate be granted glory."

May 18, 2014 10:23 PM

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I personally hope they drag out the competition portion of the 9SC arc coz the novel kinda breath through some of the stuff that can make for very interesting stuff in the anime.

May 18, 2014 10:40 PM

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