No Game No Life (light novel)
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Robin6128 said: The lack of pressure would cause their fluids to boil, and heat is lost fast. Ignoring the core for a moment, that would lead to fluids freezing and death within 1 minute. I have sources for that too, if you want. They weren't in vacuum longer than a few seconds. They would've lost consciousness long before any of that happened. |
Robin6128 said: The lack of pressure would cause their fluids to boil, and heat is lost fast. Ignoring the core for a moment, that would lead to fluids freezing and death within 1 minute. I have sources for that too, if you want. Vsauce to the rescue! http://youtu.be/lD08CuUi_Ek?t=8m48s |
| So you're trying to say that the heat from the core conveniently regulates the fluids so they don't freeze, but don't overheat at the same time? |
Uzza said: Robin6128 said: The lack of pressure would cause their fluids to boil, and heat is lost fast. Ignoring the core for a moment, that would lead to fluids freezing and death within 1 minute. I have sources for that too, if you want. Vsauce to the rescue! http://youtu.be/lD08CuUi_Ek?t=8m48s 15 seconds. 4 times a faster death |
Caleb8980 said: Robin6128 said: So you're trying to say that the heat from the core conveniently regulates the fluids so they don't freeze, but don't overheat at the same time? Only for some seconds...as that is all it takes for them to do what they did in the anime; as you said: even without an external source of heat humans can still survive for around 1 minute in the cold until they freeze to death, and they didn't need anymore than that. 1800 miles from the core, I doubt that would happen so conveniently. |
| I don't even fucking know, hunter x hunter 126 and this made the year already for me, puta que pariu caralho quem diria que uma das merdas epicas que ia ver esse ano foi de um brasileiro |
| I'm actually really surprised they fit it all in one episode considering the chess game being split into 2 episodes. |
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| wow that was so satisfying i'm kinda at a loss for words |
| Now that is the kind of game I want. The best game played so far. The previous episodes doesn't compare. |
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Caleb8980 said: Sigh...you are forgetting 2 things: 1. The heat coming from the core doesn't need to be 20 degree Celsius when it reaches them, everything from -30 to 50 is fine for some minutes so the window of time they had was that much bigger. 2. As I posted way up the Radius is in denominator of the formula and even ^2 hence the closer they get to the core the faster they are falling hence making the time of the fall that much shorter Ok then, let's assume that this world is a lot smaller than Earth, as they fall at some ridiculous velocity. They accelerate. So if they can fall so quickly, then it's hard to believe that the gas particals can't do the same. That would dissipate the atmosphere which leads me back to my previous point which you ignored. -30 to 50? is that pulling out some random figures? |
Caleb8980 said: Sigh...you are forgetting 2 things: 1. The heat coming from the core doesn't need to be 20 degree Celsius when it reaches them, everything from -30 to 50 is fine for some minutes so the window of time they had was that much bigger. 2. As I posted way up the Radius is in denominator of the formula and even ^2 hence the closer they get to the core the faster they are falling hence making the time of the fall that much shorter. EDIT: Now before sth comes about the Gs they have on their body and how that would crush their lungs...They are in free fall so no force has a direct effect on the body apart from the gravitational force. I think the most important part he's forgetting is that time is stretched/slowed down due to the inner monologues and explanations. It sounds like he's assuming that it's all real time and they're falling for minutes on end. |
| I have to say that this has been the best episode of the entire season so far for me. I have NEVER laughed so much and enjoyed an anime as much as this episode. It even trumps Akuma no Riddle, and Black bullet for me. Plus all the prior shows I've watched over the years. Really enjoyed this one! EDIT: No wonder why so many of you who have read the LN have been waiting for this episode to be animated. Mod Edit: Removed spam. |
julyanMay 15, 2014 4:44 AM
DivAsakust said: I think the most important part he's forgetting is that time is stretched/slowed down due to the inner monologues and explanations. It sounds like he's assuming that it's all real time and they're falling for minutes on end. I'm assuming based upon the 30 second rule... |
| Frickin' awsome ep. love every second of it. And how creative was the Shiritori , mindblowing . |
| "I used to be a gamer like you, until I took an arrow to the knee" -best reference so far. Props for the Cthulu in the background, too! Best episode so far, this was EPIC. Loved Jibril, hope to see more of her! So far this is my only 10 for the season. |
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| Going by the earth, the heat flux of the core is a bit under 0.09 W/m2. Compare this to the solar constant which is 1361 W/m2 at earth, and <300 W/m2 at the surface. I don't think the heat from the core would be of much help. |
UzzaMay 14, 2014 3:15 PM
myungpetrucci said: Can someone explain what was the thing with the 'empty headed academic' ??? what was she trying to achieve with that It actually says "weak" or as in "the weak minded". It doesn't do anything, it was just something Sora taught Jibril to insult her with, and something she threw back at him. It was a giant bait. |
Robin6128 said: Caleb8980 said: Does this in your eyes even remotely compare to the mass of Sora and Shiro? And yes -30 and 50 were out of my head but I experienced them both so I can make at least halfway accurate guesses. If you're going to pull of the mass, then let me bring it straight back to the start. We can quite notably see they are slowly floating towards the core. If they accelerate towards the core FASTER than the oxygen in the atmosphere does, then there will be a point where they will have no oxygen. They will die within 15 seconds, from lack of oxygen to the brain. Or at least become unconscious, which they didn't. We don't know how hot exactly the core is, or how much heat it radiates. Assuming that their fluids are regulated just so they can survive is a convenience. DIRECT INTERFERENCE |
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Caleb8980 said: Uzza said: Going by the earth, the heat flux of the core is a bit under 0.09 W/m2. Compare this to the solar constant which is 1361 W/m2 at earth. I don't think the heat from the core would be of much help. Well yes but the sunlight has to travel ca. 8x60x300000 (sry I'm too lazy to now solve this xD) kms until it gets here, that is a much huger amount of way that the heat of the earth with only at most 1800 miles has to travel. That doesn't matter, because the flux density is affected by the distance of the radiant surface, and the energy output of it. Since the sun has such a large energy output, the flux density is much higher even that large of a distance. The core however has orders of magnitude less energy output, so even at that close of a distance, the flux density is not high. |
| EVERYTHING is direct interference if it works against the protagonists apparently. Oh the convenience levels... |
| wow... that was epic |
myungpetrucci said: Can someone explain what was the thing with the 'empty headed academic' ??? what was she trying to achieve with that she knew Shiro had writen that on his paper. So if those words dissepair. She thought Shiro would have lost his last possibility of responding (because they couldn't talk anymore in vacuum) However, Shiro saw that comming too ofcourse. and had something else written on the back. |
Robin6128 said: If you're going to pull of the mass, then let me bring it straight back to the start. We can quite notably see they are slowly floating towards the core. If they accelerate towards the core FASTER than the oxygen in the atmosphere does, then there will be a point where they will have no oxygen. That is not how gravity works. Gravity affects all matter equally, and as such the oxygen would be accelerating at the same rate that they are. They would not, at any point in time, accelerate faster than the oxygen. |
| Nice intense game. Dat first move of Sora thou, seriously who will think to summon an Hydrogen bomb in that type of game made real. I thought it was GG, in the end they end up on saying complicated scientific theories. The fanservice was fun, wait are they kissing?, and that Skyrim reference after the ED. Overall great episode, I give it 5/5. Sent with Mal Updater |
| Surprisingly a very good episode considering how I disliked this anime so far. Everything tied up pretty well (Even the censorship made sense! LOL), and that ending was quite epic. I hope it'll continue to surprise me like that. |
SetsukoHaraMay 14, 2014 3:43 PM
| Great episode, great characters, great game. And dat Skyrim reference... |
| this episode was just to good to have the match being over really after the first move thats god like!! dat no game no life greatness! this anime lives up to the hype especially after a episode like this i hope it keeps bringing it for the people who only think that this is just another trapped in a game series with alot of ecchi :P clearly if anyone watches this ep it will open you're eyes |
| Be It 10 or 1000 Men, The End Result Will Be The Same.. |
| That episode was pretty fun. I like these types of scenarios where characters fight and are constrained by very little aside from the power of their imagination. However, for all his berating Jibril for failing to respect the unknown, Sora does the exact same thing. He makes some serious assumptions about how heat-resistant she is and really only wins because he was lucky and guessed correctly that she wasn't some superbeing with the capacity to survive the force of the explosion at the end for just long enough to die a fraction of a second after his weak-ass human body. Of course, it's clear there's a difference between them. She probably could've won if she hadn't toyed with him, whereas seemingly everything he did had a purpose. But then, that's the point the show's trying to make. The point it manages to make unintentionally is that Sora only won because the writer chose for him to win - if Jibril had been the protagonist it would have turned out that she could've withstood even the supernova for just long enough to die last. |
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| Great episode, loved the materilization shiratori (that hypernova) and never would have figured i would hear ''an arrow in the knee'' joke in 2014 IN AN ANIME nonetheless.. No game no life rules this season!! |
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| New Character: Jibril~! x3 She's cool. :3 OH! MY! GOD! That was the most awesomest and epicest game of shiritori I have ever seen~! In fact...Materialization Shiritori! That's awesome. :3 Anyways...it was pretty confusing at first as to how Sora beat Jibril, but I kind of got it later on. :3 Really awesome episode~! Enjoyable as hell! x3 Umm...oh! LOL! Shiro still wearing Steph's panties on her head. xD |
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| LOL at all those physics talk. No need to go to such length if you really want to criticize the show on its realism. Nobody would be composed enough to continue playing this game when free falling in the vacuum of space... |
Caleb8980 said: Uzza said: Robin6128 said: If you're going to pull of the mass, then let me bring it straight back to the start. We can quite notably see they are slowly floating towards the core. If they accelerate towards the core FASTER than the oxygen in the atmosphere does, then there will be a point where they will have no oxygen. That is not how gravity works. Gravity affects all matter equally, and as such the oxygen would be accelerating at the same rate that they are. They would not, at any point in time, accelerate faster than the oxygen. Well to be more precise it affects all oxygen for THEM with the same acceleration as themselves not all oxygen in general ;-) The one that is closer to the core would fall faster than they did as they started falling and the one above them would fall slower. Well but aren't we now heading a bit too far into physics xD I mean we are only "that" close to have gravity bend time and space XD EDIT: I really didn't want to delve to deep into it for making it easier to understand :< Yeah it is also based on the distance, though for the local area around them, the effect is so small that it can safely be ignored. Besides that though, as they move closer to the core, the oxygen would slowly start getting denser as all the oxygen would be in a smaller area compared to at a higher altitude. |
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