| You know what they did to Togainu no Chi. :/ See the genre? Shounen-ai is not listed. Not that MAL knows everything, but still. So stop freaking out over getting naked apron!Clear, singing Clear, suit!Noiz, or the bar scene with Mink (you know the one), etc. You're getting other people's hopes up, only to have them crash and burn later. And stop rating it before it's even aired. Even if they do include the BL, they'll have to go with the "true" route to reveal all the plot points, and that's the one with the (sigh) But seriously, if I don't get Mod Edit: Spoiler tags added. |
rodacMar 25, 2014 7:38 PM
| Honestly, I'll be very disappointed. Sure, they can cut down on the sexual scenes but to remove all of the yaoi would be horrible. Baniita said: Aoba ;__;the bar scene with Mink (you know the one) |
| I couldn't stand Mink's route. I started crying at one point. Too triggering imo. |
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RoseOfTheDawn said: I couldn't stand Mink's route. I started crying at one point. Too triggering imo. Lol. A lot of people felt that way. I'm just glad they didn't I enjoyed Koujaku's route the least among the four, actually. I thought it was boring and disappointing. They did a really poor job of Cleeeaaaaarrrr. His route. ; __; Both his good and bad ends RUINED ME for life. ugh. ugghhh. my baby in a lab coat. He's too freaking adorable, our dear Jellyfish Prince. His route was by far the most heartfelt. u xu) His r:c bad ending broke my heart. D: Noiz' wasn't bad. Where's our Koujaku x Noiz crack route?! I at least want to see them duke it out on Wii in detail. ; u; And have shopping cart races. Maybe a threesome with Aoba. (lolol) |
animeoppai said: Not Aoba, Honestly, I'll be very disappointed. Sure, they can cut down on the sexual scenes but to remove all of the yaoi would be horrible. Baniita said: Aoba ;__;the bar scene with Mink (you know the one) tbh, I don't even need the sex scenes. Kisses or making out is enough for me. u wu They can't go with any single route unless it's the "true" (my arse) one, though. OTL That means I won't even get a |
BaniitaApr 3, 2014 10:14 PM
| I'm fine with the kinky stuff removed, but to remove the BL completely kind of ruins it for the fans and the ... franchise I guess? Unless if its a non-BL DMMd they are heading towards for the people who aren't comfortable with Yaoi like Lucky Dog's manga. Still, I just want CHiRAL to be a success and get more buyers, thus more games c: |
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HappyStance said: Pretty much. I hope they at least won't skimp on the animation quality again. It looks like it has a decent budget, at least. But without the BL, there's not much point. The "plot" isn't good enough to stand on its own.I'm expecting a near exact repeat of what happened with Togainu no Chi to be honest. I hope I'm wrong though. |
Baniita said: animeoppai said: Not Aoba, Honestly, I'll be very disappointed. Sure, they can cut down on the sexual scenes but to remove all of the yaoi would be horrible. Baniita said: Aoba ;__;the bar scene with Mink (you know the one) tbh, I don't even need the sex scenes. Kisses or making out is enough for me. u wu They can't go with any single route unless it's the "true" (my arse) one, though. OTL That means I won't even get a Psst Honestly, the sex scenes are not really needed in the scheme of things. Seriously, that was just fap material... Keeping the romance aspect of the game(s) but focusing more on the plot itself is honestly how I hope they handle the anime. The sex absolutely wouldn't be included anyway, seeing as DMMd is going to be a TV anime. Truthfully, I'm not exactly scared for the romance aspect, seeing as DMMd is NOT being done by the same company as TnC was (good choice there), and there have been BL anime on Japanese TV before. At the very least, I suspect Noiz kissing Aoba over the counter will be a thing, because it actually is relevant to his character and how he treats things like that. |
| It'd be nice if they took a hint from the people who did Amagami, and just have ALL the routes in seperate episodes.. You could fit each 'good' route in 4 episodes and have 4 episodes for a 'general' story, IE before each route branches off... Well tbh anything they do would be better than TnC... That was a FAIL... |
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| Personally, I think DMMD is better off without the yaoi for the series. No hates guys, I mean I would love it just as much with yaoi, but judging by Togainu no Chi, I don't want the half assed fanservice/yaoi/shonnen-ai to ruin the whole series. It's ether they add it and to it right, or don't add it so the series won't look "bad". |
SocksToTheCrotch said: This isn't directed at the thread specifically but from what I've been reading in general, I think a lot of people are being overly pessimistic about the issue of BL censorship. If there's one thing that will be just as terrible as TNC, it's the animation, but as of now I have no reason to believe they'd outright remove the BL in DMMd. Here's why! 1) Removing the BL in TNC was a conscious choice that should have worked. The thing about TNC was that the director wanted to make it accessible and watchable for everyone beyond fujoshis, which was fine, since TNC has the grounds to stand on its own without the BL titillation (in fact I found a lot of the BL in the game itself rather out of place. Shiki's entire route made very little sense to me). It worked in the manga, so it could have very well worked in the anime. But since the whole thing was done poorly no one really got anything out of it in the end. TNC was bad not because of the lack of BL, but because it was terribly executed. In fact if they had tried to squeeze in on screen BL, beyond Keisuke it could have ended up a lot worse since the characters and the atmosphere didn't really leave room for much fanservice as a fallback. What were they supposed to do? Put in forced kisses? Rin is already true to his character by being touchy-feely and flirty, Keisuke is the only one that had any chance of a workable BL moment and Shiki was basically a rapist in the game. If my memory serves right, pretty much all of the related BL was down to the sex or the love confessions towards the end of some routes. DMMd is a different story. On one hand while it does get pretty serious, its general tone is a lot more "goofy" and upbeat compared to TNC; there's a lot more silly going on in the game overall. And unlike TNC where most of the praise goes to its story, the real charm in DMMd is down to its characters. At the very least, I suspect there will be a fair amount of fanservice for each character, which could easily fall into place since the whole thing already plays off like a BL harem from the start. Clear's whole character is centered around his love for Aoba, Noiz and Koujaku essentially always fight for Aoba's attention, and well...I guess Mink is the only real indifferent one. This is something N+C play on all the time themselves in the extra material that they release. The whole shounen group vibe along with the harem thing are typical ingredients that we're currently seeing in a number of anime for women (otome), or anime with large female followings (sports/shounen), and is something that DMMd has as well. Which leads me to my next point: 2) We've come a considerably long way since 2010. Compare some of the more recent successes that were aimed at females without having to compromise anything in the hopes of securing a male audience to help sustain sales. Otome adaptions are springing up like weeds and then you have the recent Free! phenomenon, it's been proven that the female demographic are perfectly self-sufficient on their own should they enjoy the series they're watching. There would be no need to have to censor anything beyond the obvious porn for the sake of attracting an audience which wouldn't even be interested anyway. Now is the perfect time to also make an adaption of something BL which follows this trend. This isn't to say that the BL will surely be in the anime, but there is definitely room for some hope! At least, let's wait for a confirmation on the matter. +1 Baniita said: HappyStance said: Pretty much. I hope they at least won't skimp on the animation quality again. It looks like it has a decent budget, at least. But without the BL, there's not much point. The "plot" isn't good enough to stand on its own.I'm expecting a near exact repeat of what happened with Togainu no Chi to be honest. I hope I'm wrong though. And about this, DRAMAtical Murder have a pretty solid plot, that is awesome and doesn't have plot holes everywhere like other BL games I've played (quite the opposite, it has a very good story and narration). An extra point for the categories of OST and Art too, this is by far the best Nitro+CHIRAL game ("Sweet Pool" with it's gross simbolysms or "Lamento" 's melodramatic pseudo dark-fantasy didn't had my attention until the end, but I liked really much the post-apocalyptic elements on "Togainu no Chi", it was epic and shit, but still...) I really don't care about the Yaoi/Yuri/Futanari/whatever.the.fuck part, I just don't want this to be a reverse Sakura Trick just to be ignored (and in this case, because people are hypocrite about homosexual concepts, hated) by everyone afterwards ("Yuri is good, Yaoi is bad" my ass, both are aceptable, the fucking gratuitous fanservice is what kills everything, just like Key's H-version titles), with so much potential. I want this anime to be watchable by everyone, not just for a restrict "demographic". |
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| Honestly, I couldn't care less. I like BL (I wouldn't read the VN if I didn't), but I think they'll probably animate the true route, and I personally thought that the BL in this route was kind of... I don't know, I just don't like it. Of course it's just my opinion, but I really don't like Ren/Aoba as a couple. They could follow the storyline in a way they don't end up in a relationship without screwing everything up if they try, I'm pretty sure. But here comes my only true fear which is that the anime will have only 12 or 13 episodes, then the story will be mutilated. But it'd be nice if there was some hints of shounen-ai between Aoba and the other characters. |
| I'll be okay either way. No BL: More story, less haters bitching about dem buttsecks Yes BL: yeah I'm okay with this too, Fujoshi rejoicing |
| The difference between Otome and BL is that Otome games don't have sex... If they do, excuse my argument. I haven't seen sex in any Otome game, much to my distaste (for example, I would love more rabu-rabu at Hakuouki games) and that's why the animes are good even without the sex part. (If they actually MAKE a good anime, that's it) BL games have sex, always if I'm not mistaken, and even if they don't show it like with Ai no Kusabi, I would like DmMd to have at least the same romance the game had. I have just played the normal one, I still have to pass the translated game and Re:Connect, but I loved the scenes it had and it would be very sad indeed to see an awesome game like that butchered just to make it watchable for everyone. :/ I'm crying inside for just thinking about it... |
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afuchar3 said: The difference between Otome and BL is that Otome games don't have sex... If they do, excuse my argument. I haven't seen sex in any Otome game, much to my distaste (for example, I would love more rabu-rabu at Hakuouki games) and that's why the animes are good even without the sex part. (If they actually MAKE a good anime, that's it) There's actually a lot of R18 otome games. From what I remember, only one has been adapted into anime and another one in the making right now by the same company. |
| I see... I knew I had to be mistaken, but then I only knew about non-adult Otome games... the ones that have animes (Does Diabolik Lovers have XX? I'm not sure). Anyway, what I'm wondering about is HOW are they going to make it... I mean, the first route was Koujaku's, right? Maybe they will make Kou's route and make the rest friends? How's that even possible?... I don't remember a lot of the game because I played it when there was no translation, but... Mink is only there if you are interested in his route, isn't it? And what about Ren? ;_; and |
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afuchar3 said: Does Diabolik Lovers have XX? I'm not sure I know in the game and drama cds, they went into more kinky things compared to the anime which toned it down. |
| From most 'route' game to anime adaptions I have seen, it seems that they will probably do the common route and then alternate between adventures with on of the guys. (So one episode with Noiz, the next with Kojaku, and so on) Then towards the end probably have all of them work together to deal with Toue. So maybe no smut but hopefully some scenes with a little bit of tension (and maybe some smooching ehe) Some people have suggested that they will do the secret route as it is the 'true' route. So yeah most BL elements will probably be removed but that's half the charm of the game!!! I also noted that there was a lot of Rhyme in the PV, which seems odd as Rhyme wasn't exactly SUPER important.....maybe a separate story from the main? I'll just hope and pray in the corner until July. |
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afuchar3 said: The difference between Otome and BL is that Otome games don't have sex... If they do, excuse my argument. I haven't seen sex in any Otome game, much to my distaste Not really, here's a full list of them lol http://vndb.org/v/all?q=&fil=tag_inc-23~542.tagspoil-0 I shall recommend you "PersonA ~Opera Za no Kaijin~" though, it's pretty goddamn good. |
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| I dunno. If they choose the "true" route, then I'm not sure how they'd handle the whole... you know. ... That's some weirdness, right there. Personally? Koujaku all the way. If not, then Noiz. And if not that? Theeeen, I'd hope they'd do the common route sans perhaps a couple scenes left to implication, and then... I don't know. I'd like there to be general vibes for all of them, if possible, but that seems to divide Aoba's attention up too much. I guess I'll be okay with whatever. Unless it's awful. ^^; |
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| I don't think they'll skip the BL but if they do... It wouldn't be that bad, would it? It's not like we can do something about it anyway lol :( |
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| I don't think it's necessarily bad if they omit the BL. I actually prefer it. I have played the game, but I generally skip the graphic scenes anyway. Not that I have a problem with BL, I just wanted to experience the story and look at the art. I think the story itself as well as the character design deserve their own performance in the spotlight, without them being overshadowed by the BL. |
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Heve said: Well, according to Japanese fans who went to see the special screening of the first episode, it will be at least shounen-ai, which is good news. Also, they were relieved that at least the first episode is nothing like TnC at all. While the animation is neither good or bad, they said it was relatively normal, most of the time, it improved a lot when Rhyme appeared. They showed the full episode? Because we don't know what is the ED song yet... |
Heve said: Well, according to Japanese fans who went to see the special screening of the first episode, it will be at least shounen-ai, which is good news. Also, they were relieved that at least the first episode is nothing like TnC at all. While the animation is neither good or bad, they said it was relatively normal, most of the time, it improved a lot when Rhyme appeared. Well that's a relief, about the shounen-ai. I'm interested to see how important Rhyme is in the anime, since it really didn't get that much attention in the VN. I can't wait to see what they do with the story, if they follow a route from the game or it's something completely different. Whatever they decide, I'm just so happy that its getting animated! |
| If I don't get some of the Aoba x Noiz moments I'll cry... |
| Not to say that the BL makes the plot (it doesn't), but completely omitting it would be incredibly weird since it's at least part of the plot, after all. I'm pretty sure they're going down the "true" route, and if they do - well, some of the plot lies in the sex scenes, in my opinion. In any case, from watching the PV, it looks like the animation's going to be pretty amazing, which makes me even more excited. I'm looking forward to the anime but I'm not getting my hopes up so I won't get too disappointed. :) |
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| It seems they'll ruin dmmd, too -_- heck, I'm still excited........ |
| I'm so in!! |
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| Adaptations of BL visual novels whether it be an anime or a manga tend to take out the BL entirely, so you're probably right. Even when anime that does have a shounen-ai/yaoi tag it gets very watered down compared to its original form. The yaoi genre kinda gets treated like shit when it comes to anime so I haven't gotten my hopes up with DMMd. Although I hope I'm wrong about this one, of course. |
| i really hope the producers keep the bl out of this which is most likely what will happen if they want a bigger audience for this show and the game. the bl doesn't really contribute much to the plot either. also, the anime was made to promote the game. so if people want to experience what the plot is actually like after watching the anime they'll have to get the game. on the other hand, this anime was made for the fans of the game and they'll probably lose some fans if they leave the bl completely out |
| It's probably watered down to shounen ai. Anime companies cannot afford to lose customers due to the 18+ ratings. But you know, with anime like K, No.6, and Nabari no Ou around, it's probably not THAT watered down. |
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parfaited said: I don't even care, honestly I just want to see Noiz. This. And of course the other bishies. |
| Koujaki and Noiz, mainly. I'd like it if they handled it like they generally do otome adaptations, where it's open-ended with flirting, and not much else. Like was said, if they follow the true route, that's just... a little too weird for most people, I think? I could be wrong. *shrug* In any case, I can't wait, and I don't even expect there to be that much romance. I've been counting down the days. *marks off today on calendar* |
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| Not much BL scenes to begin with, I think they should just not show the ding dongs or cut the scene a bit. I don't think it's fair to cut out all BL, because a lot the harem VN's with kinky scenes still get their kinky scenes but when it comes to BL, it has to taken away. Kind of unfair for the fans, and if you don't like BL just skip it. Easy as that. |
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afuchar3 said: The difference between Otome and BL is that Otome games don't have sex... If they do, excuse my argument. I haven't seen sex in any Otome game, much to my distaste (for example, I would love more rabu-rabu at Hakuouki games) and that's why the animes are good even without the sex part. (If they actually MAKE a good anime, that's it) BL games have sex, always if I'm not mistaken, and even if they don't show it like with Ai no Kusabi, I would like DmMd to have at least the same romance the game had. I have just played the normal one, I still have to pass the translated game and Re:Connect, but I loved the scenes it had and it would be very sad indeed to see an awesome game like that butchered just to make it watchable for everyone. :/ I'm crying inside for just thinking about it... Yes. Yes. Yes, I am crying inside, too. Gahd. |
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| But basically every anime adaptation of an eroge has their sex scenes removed, why everyone are so concerned about it? The only exception would be Yosuga no Sora, but that was a galge and that kind of material is always WAY more popular between otakus. Blaze_ said: Not much BL scenes to begin with, I think they should just not show the ding dongs or cut the scene a bit. I don't think it's fair to cut out all BL, because a lot the harem VN's with kinky scenes still get their kinky scenes but when it comes to BL, it has to taken away. Kind of unfair for the fans, and if you don't like BL just skip it. Easy as that. Sukisho was an BL game and at least has kisses scenes in the anime adaptation. |
| ^ That's what I'm saying. They should keep some of the BL as a BL game. "Aiming for a larger audience" can suck it. |
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