Puella Magi Madoka Magica: The Movie -Rebellion-
| I just finished the series and although i liked it a lot i didn't feel amazed by it. And i know that the first two films are recaps but does rebellion make things a whole lot better. And i like creepy endings and depressive ones like EoE. |
| Rebellion is a sequel to both the movies and the series. If you really like creepy/depressive endings then I doubt Rebellion will disappoint you. |
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| Rebellion is a decent movie. It's somewhat hit or miss and opinions have been rather mixed about it. I personally liked it for the most part but a decent number of people didn't. I wouldn't really compare it to EoE but I guess I can somewhat understand why someone might draw that comparison. |
| Short answer - NO. Long answer - FUCK NO. Its a rape of perfectly fine franchise, especially the third bullshit movie. Just ignore they exist. yazio said: Rebellion is a sequel to both the movies and the series. If you really like creepy/depressive endings then I doubt Rebellion will disappoint you. No its not, Trainwreckellion has nothing to do with perfect TV series. its far too much of a trainwreck with OOC writing to have anything to do with tv series. TV series end with tv series. |
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Fai said: Perfect? I thought we were talking about Madoka...yazio said: Rebellion is a sequel to both the movies and the series. If you really like creepy/depressive endings then I doubt Rebellion will disappoint you. No its not, Trainwreckellion has nothing to do with perfect TV series. its far too much of a trainwreck with OOC writing to have anything to do with tv series. TV series end with tv series. |
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yazio said: Fai said: Perfect? I thought we were talking about Madoka...yazio said: Rebellion is a sequel to both the movies and the series. If you really like creepy/depressive endings then I doubt Rebellion will disappoint you. No its not, Trainwreckellion has nothing to do with perfect TV series. its far too much of a trainwreck with OOC writing to have anything to do with tv series. TV series end with tv series. Madoka tv show was pretty much a masterpiece with great ending and message. Madoka movies are horrible cash in with incohrent writing ooc characters and horrible ending made solely to sell lifeless soulless sequels. scytheavatar said: Many fans see Rebellion as the End of Evangelion of the series, that Shinbou and Urobuchi tried too hard and the end result was a complete trainwreck. this is understatement. EOE at least was watchable. |
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Fai said: Disagree with the masterpiece part, agree with the rest.Madoka tv show was pretty much a masterpiece with great ending and message. Madoka movies are horrible cash in with incohrent writing ooc characters and horrible ending made solely to sell lifeless soulless sequels. |
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| I would say so, but I haven't watched the third movie just yet. |
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Fai said: Short answer - NO. Long answer - FUCK NO. Its a rape of perfectly fine franchise, especially the third bullshit movie. Just ignore they exist. yazio said: Rebellion is a sequel to both the movies and the series. If you really like creepy/depressive endings then I doubt Rebellion will disappoint you. No its not, Trainwreckellion has nothing to do with perfect TV series. its far too much of a trainwreck with OOC writing to have anything to do with tv series. TV series end with tv series. How was Rebellion a trainwreck? It was extremely well executed imo |
Evatallica said: Fai said: Short answer - NO. Long answer - FUCK NO. Its a rape of perfectly fine franchise, especially the third bullshit movie. Just ignore they exist. yazio said: Rebellion is a sequel to both the movies and the series. If you really like creepy/depressive endings then I doubt Rebellion will disappoint you. No its not, Trainwreckellion has nothing to do with perfect TV series. its far too much of a trainwreck with OOC writing to have anything to do with tv series. TV series end with tv series. How was Rebellion a trainwreck? It was extremely well executed imo Shitty plot designed solely to sequelize the shit out of madoka. OOC character writing Soulless and pointless existence of the movie itself. |
rodacMar 21, 2014 8:49 PM
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| The pacing for the movies is a lot better, although they leave some stuff out. The third movie was amazing IMO, though many people hate it (for good reason). Watch rebellion, but don't force yourself to watch the first two. |
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| They are about the same to me, though the movies did skip a few things about Mami in the movies. |
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SolBlade said: They are about the same to me, though the movies did skip a few things about Mami in the movies. Yeah that part really annoyed me. Of all the things to cut, you cut that? |
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| Yes, it probably will TC. |
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| Rebellion in my opinion is very good... although is very angst l liked it, so if you like depressive endings go watch it |
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| Rebellion is pretty good, but you really need to sit and think on it to appreciate what's going on, especially the ending. The main series is absolutely a masterpiece though. |
veronica45f said: Rebellion in my opinion is very good... although is very angst l liked it, so if you like depressive endings go watch it If this "angst" involves Homura after the ending of the TV series, then I can see it going either way. OT: I'll wait for the BDs of Rebellion to come out... only 2 more weeks. Some of my friends hated it, others loved it. Hopefully it doesn't disappoint as I thought the TV series was an enjoyable watch. |
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| can you watch rebellion without watching the 1st 2 movies? i don't want to watch them if they're recap movies |
orchidork said: can you watch rebellion without watching the 1st 2 movies? i don't want to watch them if they're recap movies Yeah I watched the third movie after watching the series. |
| Still waiting on the BDs to watch rebellion. But for the first 2 movies the answer is not. |
| The TV series is better. The 1st Movie is a straight up recap, with some really random OST changes that just are no where near as fitting as the TV series it seemed they changed it because they could rather than because they should or to improve upon it., it also cuts I think quite a few crucial scenes from the TV series, Mami gets like no back story or development at all in the films, Madoka Dream sequence for god knows what reason is removed, which really throws of a viewer if the films are the persons first time watching the series, theres also a few cut convo with Madoka and Homura discussing Sayaka is cut, also I think another huge scene cut is Homura threatening to kill Sayaka. The 2nd film fairs much better with no cut content, and has actual additional scenes, but once again the ost is changed for no real reason though not as bad of of a change as the first film the TV series is just better. Both films do have better animation, but story is always more important. As for the Third Film it is quite a bit darker than the TV series, and is a pretty good film, with an ending which will feel like a punch to gut and will make you feel empty BUT fully justified if you actually pay attention to details. I still prefer the TV series ending, but Rebellions is still very good as well. |
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| There are some changes they made in the recap films that I liked (some of the new music, backgrounds, transformations) but others I didn't. I definitely view the TV show as superior to the recap films. Rebellion is not recap, and definitely required viewing for every Madoka fan. Some people loved the film, some hated it. I personally loved it, but either way it gets into some really important stuff. It's a movie that encourages multiple viewings and lots of thinking and discussion. |
| Agree with everyone before, just skip straight to Rebellion, I for one didn't find it that angsty, so it will depend on you but is worthy a try. |
Fai said: Evatallica said: Fai said: Short answer - NO. Long answer - FUCK NO. Its a rape of perfectly fine franchise, especially the third bullshit movie. Just ignore they exist. yazio said: Rebellion is a sequel to both the movies and the series. If you really like creepy/depressive endings then I doubt Rebellion will disappoint you. No its not, Trainwreckellion has nothing to do with perfect TV series. its far too much of a trainwreck with OOC writing to have anything to do with tv series. TV series end with tv series. How was Rebellion a trainwreck? It was extremely well executed imo Shitty plot designed solely to sequelize the shit out of madoka. OOC character writing Soulless and pointless existence of the movie itself. Oh my freaking god, are you blind or what? Everyone completely forgot about how much deep is Homura's psychological state? The third movie fits perfectly with Homura's character and gave a whole new meaning about the real complexity of the series, if you don't like it so this is another story, but tell that they "rape Homura's character to hell"? Use your head to think just a little, please. Maybe it's time to re-watch the entire TV series or the 2 first movies? |
| In terms of the first 2 movies vs. the series, the series is definitely better. The movies are far from bad, though. Just some questionable cuts were made in the first movie (along with some questionable execution of scenes, including the infamous scene that was at the end of the 3rd episode in the series), and the second movie had an out-of-the-blue music video in the middle of it that, while it may have had significance in the original series, really had no place being there in the movie. Funny how they would cut some pretty important scenes in the first movie, and then leave a completely pointless music video in the second. Plus, the story itself mostly works better in episodic chunks than in two films. |
zacrathedemon5Mar 30, 2014 12:26 AM
| I watched all three films and didn't enjoy the experience. I absolutely loved the series when I first saw it, I thought the pacing and reveals were great and that it had an awesome story. The films had a diminished sense of tension and due to its pacing, had a lack of emotional wallop. The new part of the story, Rebellion, felt like a tacked-on addition solely to make more money and provide fan service. The original series ending was great, but this new film didn't make me feel anything. I didn't care for it. I'd only recommend watching the series and avoiding the films altogether. |
| Well the first and second movies are basically just a retelling of the series. If you don't care to see the same story over again don't bother watching it, just go watch Rebellion, but I think you should watch the first and second movies because they are completely remade, all the art is new and if you pay close attention you can see slight differences, the sound is rerecorded as are the character's voices, it's almost like watching the series for the first time all over again. Unfortunately there are some important details that are left out of the movies so if you haven't seen the series you should watch the series first, THEN the movies. To answer questions though, the movies are basically the same as the series with slight alterations to sound, art and detail. Rebellion is amazing. I just watched it last night and it was an incredible movie. The sound was beautiful and fit each scene, the art was even more beautiful and extravagant than the series and other movies, the character development was shocking and exciting and so many plot twists god damn |
genesic123 said: Fai said: Short answer - NO. Long answer - FUCK NO. Its a rape of perfectly fine franchise, especially the third bullshit movie. Just ignore they exist. yazio said: Rebellion is a sequel to both the movies and the series. If you really like creepy/depressive endings then I doubt Rebellion will disappoint you. No its not, Trainwreckellion has nothing to do with perfect TV series. . Madoka has always been a trainwreck,it just took the movie for you to realise it. Madoka was never a trainwreck. And the movie was pretty good. |
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| I watched the series and movies. In my opinion the first 2 movies were fantastic, every bit as good as the original series. I thought they would be straight recap and cut down to boot like the Gurren Lagan movies but actually they added quite a bit of new stuff like the events from Homura's original timeline. But the third movie wow. It - was - just - terrible. I read in on some blogs the writer Gen Urobuchi actually wanted the series to end right there. But he was roped into continuing the series because of the rest of the staff or something. |
| It was terrible..... because? Yes Urobuchi never thought of expanding the story and never liked the idea either.This is apparent in the 3rd film. |
ssjokg said: It was terrible..... because? Yes Urobuchi never thought of expanding the story and never liked the idea either.This is apparent in the 3rd film. Incoming: They destroyed Homura's character, it was a sad edgy ending, etc... Just like the last couple of threads. |
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| I personally liked the movie recaps over the anime, because first off it is much more prettier, my favorite opening of the whole franchise, Luminous is played for the 2 movies, new soundtrack musics to play alongside the original ones especially the one when Madoka ascends into godhood and saying her last words to Homura before disappearing. the third movie uses the elements from the 1st and 2nd movies, and these materials are later used in Magia Record: Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica Side Story the mobile app game, and finally the movies made me follow Madokaism even further. |
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