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| Akatsuki > Noob Girl. I find a relationship based on a one-sided reliance and dependence to be unlikely to work out. Noob Girl's sort of clingyness to Shiro in order to improve her own standing and skills also constitutes the archetype that Shiro hates. That and I just don't like Minori. Only half-filled bottles make sounds when shaken. The sauciness when she tries to imitate Shiro with her party members, despite not being only half filled is cringe-worthy, and her sudden outburst this episode certainly didn't improve my opinion of her. One might argue that she "tried to improve Shiro's image" like the person above me, but when you're sitting alone crying and yelling stuff like "ずるいよ！" after only watching Akatsuki interacting with Shiro, then spending the remaining time conversing about her feelings for Shiro, that noble "goal" doesn't seem to be as important as she would like people to believe. Furthermore, if we're on the topic of usefulness, Akatsuki's been with Shiro since episode one, and has been imperative in the many missions and stratagems through the course of these 21 episode. These are actual results, not daydreams and wishes. Or we can go hope for an ACTUAL female candidate to show up (groundbreaking, I know), not a noob, not a quiet midget, but maybe that quirky little Onee-chan they've been teasing for the previous twenty episodes who led Tea Party, and obviously had some relationship with Shiro. At this rate Shiro's going to end up worse than Crusty; the ザコchara at least managed to nab a princess, no matter how lazy or disheveled. |
HowTragic said: Akatsuki > Noob Girl. I find a relationship based on a one-sided reliance and dependence to be unlikely to work out. Noob Girl's sort of clingyness to Shiro in order to improve her own standing and skills also constitutes the archetype that Shiro hates. That and I just don't like Minori. Only half-filled bottles make sounds when shaken. The sauciness when she tries to imitate Shiro with her party members, despite not being only half filled is cringe-worthy, and her sudden outburst this episode certainly didn't improve my opinion of her. One might argue that she "tried to improve Shiro's image" like the person above me, but when you're sitting alone crying and yelling stuff like "ずるいよ！" after only watching Akatsuki interacting with Shiro, then spending the remaining time conversing about her feelings for Shiro, that noble "goal" doesn't seem to be as important as she would like people to believe. Furthermore, if we're on the topic of usefulness, Akatsuki's been with Shiro since episode one, and has been imperative in the many missions and stratagems through the course of these 21 episode. These are actual results, not daydreams and wishes. Or we can go hope for an ACTUAL female candidate to show up (groundbreaking, I know), not a noob, not a quiet midget, but maybe that quirky little Onee-chan they've been teasing for the previous twenty episodes who led Tea Party, and obviously had some relationship with Shiro. At this rate Shiro's going to end up worse than Crusty; the ザコchara at least managed to nab a princess, no matter how lazy or disheveled. She's realized that through the course of these recent events. That's the context of her statement "I haven't done anything yet.". That's why she's now ready to choose her own path to support Shiroe instead of one sidedly admiring and relying on him while only staring at his back. Mamare Touno describes this as "Minoris first step in tempering a strong blade.". That will be the central theme of her development as a character. Also, she's arguably one of the few people who can actually understand Shiroes aims and wishes later on in the series. Akatsuki notices this and hence is conflicted because she felt so distant to the person she thought she was the closest to. She slowly realizes all the things she could offer other people can easily replicate or do better than her. She has zero raid experience, she's level 90 but doesn't have any great equipment nor is she the best damage dealer or tracker (D.D.D. has a huge pool of them). She isn't knowledgeable on the more complicated aspects of running a player city and cannot offer any practical advice or support. Most of these are baseless worries as Shiroe doesn't really mind but she's still affected. Thus her insecurities and the theme of Akatsukis character development w/c is also basically finding her own worth. |
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| Akatsuki was adorable, I feel sorry for Minori but she can't get between Akatsuki and Shiroe. Urek said: Baddie007 said: I wonder why kind of climax will in store for the last 3 episodes? ohohoho, dont worry, it will end with everything resolved, but in a (massive) cliffhanger Humm, a massive cliffhanger huh? If you are right, I really hope que next season comes out this year, this show is so good. |
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Takuan_Soho said: SimmianPrime said: Minori can't be that bright if she believes that she (as a middle schooler) can have a romantic relationship with a university student (23 I think?) First, I don't think she knows how old Shiroe is, second you really can't control love. There was a nice touch this episode, Minori didn't know what she was feeling (even though her brother did) until she felt jealousy towards Akatsuki (the whole "he is mine") and then the whole thing just flooded out of her. That is what love is like, it doesn't often come with trumpets and banners, it can suddenly knock your socks off. We don't know if Minori really wants to have a "romantic relationship", neither I bet does she. She has every reason in the world to love Shiroe, the person who rescued her brother and her from slavery, the person who is teaching her how to be a good person (this was back in episode 8 or so), the one person she can totally count on in this world, but that isn't the same thing as wanting to jump in the sack with him. This is her first love, and one of the elements of first love is its innocence. I'm not saying she can't have romantic feelings for him, but she should definitely be intelligent enough (we've seen that she's very intelligent) to know that nothing could possibly come from them. I mean, when I was in middle school I had the hots for some of my teachers, but I didn't think I could date them, and Minori is a fuck ton more mature than I was at her age. I think it would have been amazing development for her to acknowledge that she knows nothing can ever come of it. |
| What a crap episode. I really dislike akatsuki. Really hope there to be no more moe crap on future episodes. |
| I dislike cuteness, moe, lolis, romance, romantic comedies, slice of life, ecchi, harem, waifus and fan-service. |
| Lol this isn't love. She just look up to him and that got deepened even more when he went out of his way to help her friend + saving her from slavery. It's like a puppy love scenario. The triangle is totally unneeded imo. Especially when the two are loli-esque too... Now I'm just expecting this show to have some open-ending and await for a second season that might never come... again. |
r3birth said: What a crap episode. I really dislike akatsuki. Really hope there to be no more moe crap on future episodes. 1 Volume dedicated to her coming right up next season. SimmianPrime said: I think it would have been amazing development for her to acknowledge that she knows nothing can ever come of it. That's one point of her development in this Libra Festival....which some people just dismisses it completely just because "hey, it's not Log Horizon" Tachii said: The triangle is totally unneeded imo. Especially when the two are loli-esque too... So your point is short people cannot love taller people, yes? So poor Akatsuki must find a guy that's as tall as she is to finally look normal to you? |
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| I don't think either of the two girls are good love interests for Shiroe. I don't see Shiroe developing any romantic feelings for either of them. |
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kaimax said: r3birth said: What a crap episode. I really dislike akatsuki. Really hope there to be no more moe crap on future episodes. 1 Volume dedicated to her coming right up next season. Does she develop or does she remain a moe style character? |
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r3birth said: kaimax said: r3birth said: What a crap episode. I really dislike akatsuki. Really hope there to be no more moe crap on future episodes. 1 Volume dedicated to her coming right up next season. Does she develop or does she remain a moe style character? Oh yes, she does develop to be a stronger person (in multiple senses), which is the purpose of Volume 6 anyway. How exactly though would be spoiler territory, so you will have to wait for it. |
| Shiro you lolicon! |
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| sigh, so from the "BUH I WANNA BE A REAL BOI" arc to the subpar harem arc... what happened to you LH, you used to be cool. |
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| Well, it's ok changing the theme for 1-2 episodes but still meh. |
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| that was defs one of the funniest eps. henrietta: 'my akatsuki sense is tingling' |
"Urushibara Ruka. The mannerisms and voice of a woman... No... More feminine than any woman. But he's a guy. Taller than Mayuri, but so very thin... But he's a guy. Looks great in a miko outfit... But he's a guy. It's already twilight And yet, it's so hot. The cicadas are crying. But... He's a guy." |
| Well, this anime really started to get so slow and boring...:( When i watched the part when they were fighting to get Serara out, i imediately gave this anime a clear 10! I was so hyped and i looked forward to seeing what other awesome things it would bring to me! But now, it looks like it started going the way SAO went... Almost no RPG elements and now its only about ordinary everyday stuff...>__> I wanted a friking online RPG anime we all craved for after .HACK series and SAO... No action, too much talking, and story isnt going anywhere...:/ They dont even try anymore to discover why or how they got into this world in the first place... Some will say this is a "character development" but do you really think character development can only be done in slow episodes? Ofc not... I liked Shiroe and other chars much better while they were on a battlefield kicking bad guys arses and being cool. :D I think this anime wasted so much potential...:( I wanted so much to keep this anime in my favourites list, but now its definitely gone. Dont rage on me, this is after all just my opinion and how i feel. |
Echelonex said: They dont even try anymore to discover why or how they got into this world in the first place... Actually, it is not that they do not want to discover, but rather they have no leads. Why do you think Shiroe spent most of time in his room (and got himself unfairly labelled as a shut-in)? If you watch his actions in the past few episodes you will notice he is actively trying to gather intelligence. As for action, unfortunately this season will not have any more action scenes in the traditional sense due to the structure of the light novels. There will be lots of them though in the second season if it is ever going to be released. |
| Poor Shiroe: If he stays in the room, people thinks he´s a demon. If he goes out, they want to kill him because whe´s with 2 cute girls XD |
| Love triangle..wait what. That Minori VA really sounding like Hanazawa there. |
-MgZ_ said: Oh wow, I'd like to meet Minori and stick a middle finger to her face. I hate this kinds of characters. They don't realize their position. She is a fucking kid and Shiroe is already an adult! Somebody need to spell that out to her. It's not like Shiroe is like 30 and she is 20. That is different. She's still a gradeschooler, why would she cry and weep on the floor because Akatsuki likes Shiroe? Does she not realize that Shiroe would never hit on her because she's still a fucking kid or did she thought it wouldnt matter because they are just in a game or MAYBE SHE JUST LOST HER FUCKING MIND. I mean it is ok to have crush on Shiroe but she might as well know that there is no way that they would end up together right? So no need to overreact like you just lost your most important partner in your life. I don't understand why are they pushing Minori as Akatsuki's rival. It's understandable if it's the teaparty's leader but man they didn't even show a hint or sign that Minori liked Shiroe in a romantic way in these past episodes. She just tried to suddenly confessed last episode and we are supposed to feel pity to her because she likes him soooooooo much? It was shown that Minori admired Shiroe as a mentor and a senior to the game but wow... Are they so desperate to progress Akatsuki x Shiroe's romance that they need to just suddenly put a rival right now? Akatsuki x Shiroe could have progressed with just them. Anyways, I hope we great conclusion at the end of this series. I hope they stop with the Minori thingy.. She is on Akatsuki's way D: Did you miss the episode where Shiroe saved her life? Of coarse she would have a major crush on him. |
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kaimax said: Actually my main point for the unnecessity of a love triangle is the stuff I said before that statement.So your point is short people cannot love taller people, yes? So poor Akatsuki must find a guy that's as tall as she is to finally look normal to you? Whether they're loli-esque is more of a personal taste. And I do believe the real person behind Akatsuki probably isn't that loli-esque (even Shiroe or Naotsugu were surprised she's supposedly the same age as Shiroe) |
| Nice love triangle. I don't think Log Horizon is the best at comedic styled episodes. Can't see a kiss scene happening. |
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GrayArchon said: Takuan_Soho said: Something that strikes me is that if people have enjoyed the first 20 episodes, why would they think that one or two slow episodes are a portent of things to come? Hasn't the author built up any trust among the viewers? That maybe he or she knows what they are doing? A lot of it is probably broken expectations at play. Some of the people that didn't like this turn of events are likely ones that kept hearing about how this series was nothing but OTPs. Only to have it made abundantly clear this episode that the author is as fond of love triangles and romantic drama as other authors are. Others were likely coming at the series entirely cold, and took it to be an action series based on the first few episodes. Things were slow in the middle, but perseverance payed off with the whole army thing, and the battles of the newbies. Only now instead of doing the logical thing and continuing on to finish off the Goblin King and complete the event to finish out the series, were clearly closing on a note of slice of life romantic comedy and drama instead with no real hope for action. Boom go the expectations. deenszx's list of possible reasons is pretty good as well. acdneo said: is there a cliche evil guy? Demikas. Hamelin. Goblin King. I believe it was explained clearly enough they are not going to just storm in and kill off the Goblin King straightaway so as to prevent the goblins from running amok. Instead, they are just going to besiege his forces (offscreen for the moment). About Demikas, as strange as it may sound that's not the last time we will see him. Though that is season 2's material >.> |
MagisterArcanum said: About Demikas, as strange as it may sound that's not the last time we will see him. Though that is season 2's material >.> Yeah, the actual guys being evil because they're cliche is just the guys from Hamelin. The Goblin King is too offscreen to much to be an antagonist and he's just a scripted event boss, while Demikas has a lot more things to show later on. |
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kaimax said: MagisterArcanum said: About Demikas, as strange as it may sound that's not the last time we will see him. Though that is season 2's material >.> Yeah, the actual guys being evil because they're cliche is just the guys from Hamelin. The Goblin King is too offscreen to much to be an antagonist and he's just a scripted event boss, while Demikas has a lot more things to show later on. Well there is an actual real antagonist coming up in the later volumes or in a future second season, without spoiling it to much u can call it an the Anti-Akihbara but it is not a main villian. i aim not going to spoil anything else. Truth be told there is no overall main villain of the show. The show rather focuses on the decisions people make when they are handed with a whole new experience and opportunity and how they adapt to it, some are more moral than others but u cant say there is true villianry, It is how people cope with a new environment much like the real world. |
GrayArchon said: However, look at it from the viewpoint of someone that mistook the series for an action series. After episode 20, That's my problem with these guys though, It already reached 20 episodes and most of the novel readers and people familiar with Mamare's writing style already explained to these guys for more than 20 episodes that Log Horizon isn't just MMORPG and action. It's one thing to dislike the episodes, but it's just full retard to discredit the whole series just because you don't like one episode and ignoring all the points in that episode. It's been clear that they said that their putting off the goblin king for logical reasons, but some just posted things like they never did watch the episode. |
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| Akatsuki <3 Minori just got senpai-zoned lol |
| This anime really doesn't need love triangles or harem building. I hope it doesn't go down that path. |
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5layer said: This anime really doesn't need love triangles or harem building. I hope it doesn't go down that path. Agreed. |
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GrayArchon said: Like I said, yes the series explained why they weren't going after the Goblin King even after a one month timeskip. However the time skip to the festival could have easily been a time skip to the Goblin King raid instead. And skip directly to Volume 7? That's even stupider since it's skipping one of the most important plot points in the Libra Festival. It's not exactly a reaction to get worked up over. It's disheartening because that shows how little people put their trust upon the author, Just like Takuan_Soho said in a previous post. How many episodes do they need to finally trust the author? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm just going to spoil it now since these people don't have any trust with the author's direction: No explicit details, separated by chapters Episode 22 to 25 is an adaptation of Volume 5, which is about the events happening around the Libra Festival. 1st Chapter "Everyday Life of Shiroe" 2nd Chapter "Swallow and Starling" 3rd Chapter "The Sorcerer's Apprentice" 4th Chapter "Confusion" 5th Chapter "Libra Festival" Interlude (Final Chapter) To the moderators, if you feel that it's too spoilery feel free to delete it. I'm just tired seeing this low level of trust. |
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annettefelice said: the preview from NHK anime blog for the next episode Aww...looks like they omitted the part of Henrietta and Krusty's Chat with Isaac, and mostly consists of Chapter 3, with an early bit of Chapter 4. |
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MagisterArcanum said: Echelonex said: They dont even try anymore to discover why or how they got into this world in the first place... Actually, it is not that they do not want to discover, but rather they have no leads. Why do you think Shiroe spent most of time in his room (and got himself unfairly labelled as a shut-in)? If you watch his actions in the past few episodes you will notice he is actively trying to gather intelligence. As for action, unfortunately this season will not have any more action scenes in the traditional sense due to the structure of the light novels. There will be lots of them though in the second season if it is ever going to be released. Yeah i wasnt trying to say they arent trying but that its not shown to the viewers and thats to us the same as the chars are not even trying...>__> In both cases you dont see plot development. |
| Funny episode; now I'm in the mood for cake :/ I'm all for that ShiroeXHenrietta. Dat massage at the beginning. |
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