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Aug 19, 2009 7:57 PM
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IMO this is one of, if not the best non-action arc in Gintama. The emotions were entirely natural, and the content was also great. Episodes like this is the reason why Gintama is such a great anime.

Was kind of disappointed that there was no special ending though.
Aug 21, 2009 4:36 PM
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I agree with you, the best non-action arc in Gintama. This episode especially was fantastic. The end really put a smile on my face.
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Sep 29, 2009 8:53 AM
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I'm going to agree with the posters above me. Best non-action arc so far!

I'm glad they let Shinpachi have his moment of awesome in this episode... he doesn't get enough of those, with the rest of the cast being kickass and stealing the spotlight all the time. (Not that I'm complaining about having kickass characters!)

I love how Gintama manages to inject humor into the places you didn't think humor was possible. That conversation about blood types on the rooftop? Hilarious. And it completely killed the serious mood.
Oct 5, 2009 11:48 AM
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Damn, the moment Shinpachi and Kirara send-reply the message it's just so AhhhhhH!!! f*cking sweet
Oct 22, 2009 1:15 PM
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The best? Really? I found most of it boring and couldn't wait for it to be over. Though I will admit that the ending was very cute.
Nov 22, 2009 6:08 PM
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Kirara and Shinpachi part was Sweet!
Nov 29, 2009 9:31 PM
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darn Shinpachi was great, wonder where he got the huge paper from though

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Dec 19, 2009 11:26 PM
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lmao @ the way Sougo treats his women
Mar 8, 2010 11:54 AM
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Absolutely loved everything about this episode.
Apr 6, 2010 2:33 PM

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For a moment I had read "Kira desu". >.<

It seemed to be a bit weak, but no. Emotions are flowing from everywhere. Nice.
May 17, 2010 4:58 AM

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Kirara x Shinpachi scene was cute. :)
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Jun 15, 2010 9:22 AM

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Kirara's not a character from the manga is she? I want her to end up with Shinpachi!!! LOL! XP! As usual, the Shinsengumi trio are as hot as ever... XP!
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Sep 20, 2010 4:39 AM
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I love how Otae was still bringing cubes of jelly and lube as "snacks" at the end.
Oct 8, 2010 3:01 AM

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"S-corting" LMAO

Sougo FTW

Also, the arc was concluded nicely.. :)
Mar 21, 2011 6:14 PM

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Yes great episode i really enjoyed how heart felt it became.
Apr 3, 2011 6:16 AM

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lovely.
May 3, 2011 6:40 AM
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Love Okita, how the hell did he manage to get Urara to be some Obedient :P. I wanted you to escort her not S-cort her.

The blood type talk was brilliant Kondo and Hijikata are the same blood type.
Dec 2, 2011 7:53 PM

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Gintoki is AMAZING.

5/5
Dec 14, 2011 5:31 PM

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hijikata sougo and kondo made this arc really great. s courting was the best
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Jan 25, 2012 11:31 PM

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One of the best arcs yet. Awesome comedy from Sogou and Gorilla.

Gintoki was cool as always.
May 25, 2012 2:35 PM

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Aside from the second episode, I found this arc to pretty weak actually. Definitely liked the Orihime arc, which was the last "serious" arc, more.
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Jun 20, 2012 9:31 AM

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Really like this arc, especially the part when Gintoki, Kondou, Hijikata try helping Shinpachi out with the letter! Sogou as usual is sadistically funny! (how in the world did he manage to make urara act as his 'slave'/'dog'??)
Jul 26, 2012 11:01 AM

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Monochrome said:
The best? Really? I found most of it boring and couldn't wait for it to be over. Though I will admit that the ending was very cute.

Yep, I was pretty surprised by the majority of the comments in here :P
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hanabira said:
I'm going to agree with the posters above me. Best non-action arc so far!

I'm glad they let Shinpachi have his moment of awesome in this episode... he doesn't get enough of those, with the rest of the cast being kickass and stealing the spotlight all the time. (Not that I'm complaining about having kickass characters!)

I love how Gintama manages to inject humor into the places you didn't think humor was possible. That conversation about blood types on the rooftop? Hilarious. And it completely killed the serious mood.


To me, Gintama with no kagura is a waste of my time.
Shinpachi is my least favorite, or in other words, I don't like this character, so these episodes were endless to me.

But I guess it's ok to give him focus episodes. And he was sweet at the end. Just then.

well, I hope that this is over, now some Kagura time, yey!
Feb 10, 2013 7:52 PM
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Shinpachi is one of my favorite character in the show and this is only episode I've ever skipped. I just hated the girl writing the letters too much.
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Feb 14, 2013 10:43 PM

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Boring mini arc. I predicted a funny ending with Urara x Okita and Kirara x Hijikata, but Kirara was a crazy dyke in this episode.

The reason why I pair Kirara with Hijikata before this episode was due to the written letter. But damn she crazy and EMO!
Mar 23, 2013 8:02 PM

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That was a really good arc. We needed to expand Shinpachi a little bit and that's what this arc did. I hope Kagura wil get an arc soon. If i remember Kagura has a brother and some guy with an umbrella is in the new OP so it's most likely him.
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i loved this arc. Its probably because i have social anxiety as well...the arc was so real and touching at the very end.
I just saw a particular comment above in which a person said she cudnt watched the ep cuz of how much she hated kirara, which i cant really understand. Is that because some people have a lack of compassion for how someone could feel that way therefore hate them? maybe its because they thought she was just a bitch for acting like that, never thinking how she could have become that way. she was indeed selfish...she herself didnt enjoy how she was, and wanted to change but didnt know how, therefore the suicide attempt.

The real hero in the end was Shinpachi, and i loved it. Gintama may have saved her body, but she was not satisfied and wud have probably attempted again or wud have been even more depressive after that. But the scene in which shinpachi and kirara finally exchanged words thru those cards, she was finally relieved of her loneliness and found her message had got through. This was the burden that finally lifted. this episode was actually one of the best written ones in my opinion, and i rmemebered it so clearly from when i first saw it when it came out
Aug 26, 2013 4:26 PM

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Damn what a wonderful end to this arc! I really love to see Kirara-san back in the series and I do have to say this arc is my favorite up to now! So lets see what's next!
Dec 10, 2013 3:46 PM

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Very good arc with a nice ending. Plus I see Kirara-san has great taste with having two soft toys that look like Elisabeth! ^_^
Jan 27, 2014 11:53 PM

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This was a rather lame arc, IMO. I have to disagree with the majority of the people in this thread. I never felt any emotions while watching this episode, as the drama felt forced. Shy glasses girl that we've only seen for a few moments in the previous two episodes suddenly turns into suicidal glasses girl in less than ten minutes, so when she jumped off the building it didn't really feel as dramatic as it was made out to be. Gin defies the laws of physics (not in the cool way) and sprints down the side of the building, somehow managing to beat gravity, and catches the girl.

Here's the best part though. Guess what? It turns out that she was actually planning to make Shinpachi rescue her by jumping off the roof of what appears to be at least a twelve story building. Riiiiight... By the way, have you ever heard the story about the man who met his wife by throwing himself in front of a moving vehicle and hoping that a girl would somehow save him? If you haven't, it's because it never happened. Yeah.

Then after that's finished, cue the cheesy "feel good" scene with Kirara and Shinpachi, who is now standing on the building across the street acting like he completely and totally understands everything that just happened on the roof. Because you know, somehow Shinpachi already knew she was going to attempt suicide, and according to Gin he had also known that she was the one writing the letters all along, even though his previous behavior completely contradicted that.

"We can finally correspond the way we should, Kirara." That was fairly ironic considering he's communicating by writing on paper with magic marker and holding it up so she can see it through the broken window across the street.

This kind of drama has never been in my tastes. If the whole arc was like this, I'd be fine with it as I could pass it off as just being a bad arc. However, this one was especially lame because the previous two episodes were actually really good. And the beginning of this one was great too, but then that last scene just spoiled it. It just really didn't sit well with me.
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Jan 31, 2014 1:37 AM
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A stupid ending for a great arc.
I've seen enough hentai to dislike Sougo scenes .
Feb 13, 2014 5:17 PM

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When Gin-san jumped off the building, it was so epic.

When Shinpachii was communicating from the other building, it was really touching.

I liked how they started talking about random thing when she was about to jump xD
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Jul 11, 2014 5:52 AM

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that fucked up masochistic little sister...yeah I think that's supposed to be a "joke" 'cause this is a gag anime and all that shit but it's just annoying how her personality turned upside-down.. you think romance is a game? Sougou getting the the pink haired chick is not funny.. I don't know why but things like this is hard to take as a "joke".

Gintama's been blending comedy, drama, and other serious stuff all in one and they're doing a great job so far.. until this arc.
Jul 13, 2014 7:26 PM

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Love it. Gintama Gintoki is cool.
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Aug 11, 2014 10:01 PM

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for people with glasses, they had extremely good eyesight :o
Sep 15, 2014 11:51 PM

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Shinpachi is one of my favorite character in the show and this is only episode I've ever skipped. I just hated the girl writing the letters too much.

THANK YOU.

Thank god she's a very minor character. I have never disliked a character so much in Gintama. She's way too melodramatic. And self-obsessed IMO. Attempted suicide so Shinpachi will save her? What an attention-seeker. It's annoying.
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Oct 26, 2014 11:09 AM

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Okita's S tendencies to the max. o_o His S-courting was wtf. Dat Okita raep face!
Why was Urara playing along with Okita lol.

lol she still has the collar on in the end picture.
The way Gin saved Kirara was totally BA!!

Damn, Shinpachi, that was pretty suave. You should get the nookie with Kirara lol.
Nov 9, 2014 10:11 AM
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I still really dislike Okita.

I admit I started to cry when Shinpachi held up that sign with "Tell me your name."

And Gin pulled some bad-ass stunt again.
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Dec 23, 2014 7:42 AM

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really emotional arc.
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Jan 4, 2015 5:14 PM

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This mini arc was really not my favorite... don't get me wrong, I loved the humor when they were all figuring out what to write for the letters, however, the girl irritated the heck outta me.

Laraso said:
This was a rather lame arc, IMO. I have to disagree with the majority of the people in this thread. I never felt any emotions while watching this episode, as the drama felt forced. Shy glasses girl that we've only seen for a few moments in the previous two episodes suddenly turns into suicidal glasses girl in less than ten minutes, so when she jumped off the building it didn't really feel as dramatic as it was made out to be....

This kind of drama has never been in my tastes. If the whole arc was like this, I'd be fine with it as I could pass it off as just being a bad arc. However, this one was especially lame because the previous two episodes were actually really good. And the beginning of this one was great too, but then that last scene just spoiled it. It just really didn't sit well with me.


I agree with Laraso. This drama, to me, was just a waste of time. I don't enjoy watching animes (or any show really) where the main character (in this case Kirara) mopes about herself and a ton of shit happens because she isn't honest about her own feelings.

AND, no Kagura. :(
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Jan 6, 2015 5:25 AM

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Not as funny as the rpevious ep but it was a great ending.
Jan 6, 2015 6:49 AM

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lovely
Feb 11, 2015 4:19 PM

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I don't really know where does the criticism come from, to be honest. The arc gives hints everywhere that Shinpachi ends up realizing who the writer is by himself... heck, he even forgets about Urara at that point.

On the other hand, it was extreme of the sister to go suicidal but precisely that was the point. She is a delusional girl. She is probably influenced by romantic dramas where the love interest saves the lady in an extreme situation... this was such a typical, clichéd and soap opera-like conclusion it didn't fit the theme of the story at all, Kirara had to confront reality. It was necessary that this conclusion was deconstructed to make the character grow. Gintoki understands this perfectly and steals the hero role for that purpose.

The signs thing was sweet, it was a nice and open-ended conclusion (that looks extremely similar to the contemporary short Signs, by the way, I wonder if this episode was produced before or after), and more importantly, one that finally made Kirara stand and look at reality leaving her delusions aside.

It is not my favorite arc, but I think it develops its points very well. The comedy is spot on and the drama is consistantly developed and has a clever background. It's the first time I see this series play a serious approach on its very common self-awareness card.
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llamaben said:

IMO this is one of, if not the best non-action arc in Gintama.

I disagree. Imo this is the first good arc since the first episode. Seriously.
The serious arcs are trash. Gintama is good for its comedy, the action arcs are incredibly average. No, under average. Also, this comes after a chain of awful episodes.
I really enjoyed these episodes, finally.
May 21, 2015 11:55 AM

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Is this really gintama?!?! I MEAN THE ENDING DOEEEEEEE ♡♡♡♡
Godness, sinpachi WAS SO SWEET ♡ that was kinda romantic. isn't it? lol but expecting more romance in gintama is just.... out of genre XD
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So does Shinpachi have a girlfriend now? good for him :)


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This arc was fantastic. The Kirara x Shinpachi part was touching, I'm happy for them. I really appreciated to watch an arc about Shinpachi, the comedy was here and the sweet moments too, great arc.
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Wow what a nice ending for this arc. I really liked it and I also had a big smile at the end on my face. :)
That's why I love Gintama so much <3

And of course Gin-san so cool at the end ^.^
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